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0Renegade
11/30/20 3:13:57 PM
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Seems like a missed opportunity for child soldiers and could have led into the inquisitor stuff in rebels
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Funkydog
11/30/20 3:15:25 PM
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So we could hear them be called "younglings"

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Ilishe
11/30/20 3:25:04 PM
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Anakin/Vader killing innocent children is the single darkest moment in Star Wars.

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Tsukasa1891
11/30/20 3:25:13 PM
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Because he played skyrim.
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Mistere Man
11/30/20 3:29:06 PM
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Or future force sensitive enemies trying to rebuild the Jedi order.

Also that one named Ricky was a jerk to Palpatine when he visited the temple, but Palpatine couldnt remember what the little bastard looked like so it was better to just be thorough.

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DarthDemented
11/30/20 3:32:09 PM
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Mistere Man posted...
Or future force sensitive enemies trying to rebuild the Jedi order.

Also that one named Ricky was a jerk to Palpatine when he visited the temple, but Palpatine couldnt remember what the little bastard looked like so it was better to just be thorough.
Fucking Ricky

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Prismsblade
11/30/20 3:36:46 PM
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Earlier lore implied that palpatine wanted the Jedi exterminated, COMPLETLEY. From the jedi themselves or course, their history, teachings, sympathizers, legacy, and all. So from that point of view it makes sense.

Although from a story perspective taking place around rebels, or fallen orders timeline where are force wielders strong enough to threaten the protagonist supposed to spawn in a timely manner?

The rule of 2 is also still in effect so it's not like Palpatine or vader are able to, or willing to train a new generation of apprentices...... otherwise things like the inquisitors should never have existed.

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Freddie_Mercury
11/30/20 3:37:11 PM
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Smackems
11/30/20 3:37:21 PM
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Rule of two, getting rid of competition etc

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Zikten
11/30/20 3:43:45 PM
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The rule of two has always been false i thought. It seems like they retconned the rule of two years ago. Everyone always has a secret apprentice
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Smackems
11/30/20 3:45:44 PM
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Zikten posted...
The rule of two has always been false i thought. It seems like they retconned the rule of two years ago. Everyone always has a secret apprentice
Idk I don't follow the new shit and I'm not very well versed in the old shit anyway

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Jiggy101011
11/30/20 3:54:57 PM
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They kind of explain this in Jedi Fallen Order but man a lot of that games lore goes over my head.

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bknight
11/30/20 3:56:58 PM
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Never happened, just a bunch of child actors hired by deep state to hurt the laser sword industry.
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Middle hope
11/30/20 4:12:11 PM
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He wanted to test Anakins absolute loyalty.

What proves your blind devotion more than killing a bunch of kids just because someone told you to?

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Gamerguymass
11/30/20 4:35:08 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
Earlier lore implied that palpatine wanted the Jedi exterminated, COMPLETLEY. From the jedi themselves or course, their history, teachings, sympathizers, legacy, and all. So from that point of view it makes sense.

Although from a story perspective taking place around rebels, or fallen orders timeline where are force wielders strong enough to threaten the protagonist supposed to spawn in a timely manner?

The rule of 2 is also still in effect so it's not like Palpatine or vader are able to, or willing to train a new generation of apprentices...... otherwise things like the inquisitors should never have existed.

Disney shit all over the lore and just made up whatever they wanted regardless of how much it would piss off the lifelong fans who said it made no fucking sense.

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Funkydog
11/30/20 5:17:56 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
Disney shit all over the lore and just made up whatever they wanted regardless of how much it would piss off the lifelong fans who said it made no fucking sense.
They had to throw most of it tbh, as was just so much that easier to just do that and then bring in what was good (as oooooh boy there was a lot of bad) and what they could work with.

They still fucked it up though.

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SoIidLegacy
11/30/20 5:30:28 PM
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Ilishe posted...
Anakin/Vader killing innocent children is the single darkest moment in Star Wars.

Basically this. The audience had to have it spelled out for them that Palpatine/Vader/the Dark Side were in fact the bad guys. I get the feeling this 'spelling it out for the audience' is a thing that grows increasingly more obvious as time passes, like how in more recent Star Wars things like The Old Republic the Empire is like this human nationalist group who make no secret of how racist they are to non-humans.

Although the Imperials in the OT all seemed to be human, I don't recall any occasion where anything racist was uttered to a non-human sentient, yet even as a kid I understood that the Imperials were supposed to be the bad guys.

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Gamerguymass
11/30/20 9:08:03 PM
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SoIidLegacy posted...
Basically this. The audience had to have it spelled out for them that Palpatine/Vader/the Dark Side were in fact the bad guys. I get the feeling this 'spelling it out for the audience' is a thing that grows increasingly more obvious as time passes, like how in more recent Star Wars things like The Old Republic the Empire is like this human nationalist group who make no secret of how racist they are to non-humans.

Although the Imperials in the OT all seemed to be human, I don't recall any occasion where anything racist was uttered to a non-human sentient, yet even as a kid I understood that the Imperials were supposed to be the bad guys.

Back when Lucas still owned Star Wars Palpatine was a speciesist and disliked women. Thats why the Empire would enslave non-humans and why there were no women in the military. Disney just decided to throw all that away, but then do the exact same damn thing all over again with their movies. Of course they didn't bother to tell EA when it came to the games.

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Endgame
11/30/20 9:16:50 PM
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Palpatine wanted to wipe out the entire Jedi Order.

Those younglings were part of the Jedi Order.
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lightwarrior78
11/30/20 9:26:45 PM
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Zikten posted...
The rule of two has always been false i thought. It seems like they retconned the rule of two years ago. Everyone always has a secret apprentice
Rule of 2 was always something of a suggestion for an ideal. Basically it gets that bad guys don't share power well, so the fewer the better to limit betrayal and infighting. But holding it solo means one screw up and the sith die out, so 2 is best to limit potential threats but have a security net. It was typically bent as the apprentice sith usually had an apprentice of their own lined up before going to claim the power of their master, and the master had an spare apprentice or 2 when the first didn't seem like they'd live up to potential.

Fun fact, in the EU before it was all retconned, Palpitine was still Darth Plaugus' apprentice at the time of the Phantom Menace, not killing him until after the movie.

Plot hole: all of that was done in such secrecy, I have no idea how the jedi even knew of it.

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Questionmarktarius
11/30/20 9:29:08 PM
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DarthDemented posted...
Fucking Ricky
"Gee, Ricky, all I wanted to do was levitate some fucking kitties, but you just had to go and piss off the goddamn emperor!"
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0Renegade
11/30/20 9:30:53 PM
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I thought inquisitors werent technically sith and are kinda like dark jedi, therefore rule of 2 wasnt broken

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Questionmarktarius
11/30/20 9:36:48 PM
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cuh posted...
When I first watched that movie it didnt even register that thats what that scene implied. Like, my brain couldnt comprehend the idea that Anakin would kill a little kid lol. A friend had to spell it out to me later lol
It's not enough that Palpy and Vader are complete dicks. They gotta be ultra-melodramatic mustache twirling bastards made of twenty Hitlers tossed in a blender with a dash of Marie Antoinette.
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sabin017
11/30/20 9:41:14 PM
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I adore the theory that Palpatine resurrected the kid Anakin drew his lightsaber on, the kid being Snoke, retaining the horrible disfigurement that caused.

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specialkid8
11/30/20 9:44:35 PM
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Gamerguymass posted...
Disney shit all over the lore and just made up whatever they wanted regardless of how much it would piss off the lifelong fans who said it made no fucking sense.
You say this like Lucas wasn't literally making everythign up as he went from the beginning, and then continueing to re make it up for forty years.
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Questionmarktarius
11/30/20 9:47:38 PM
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specialkid8 posted...
You say this like Lucas wasn't literally making everythign up as he went from the beginning, and then continueing to re make it up for forty years.
Well... the knockoffs of Flash Gordon and various Kurosawa films were at least somewhat loyal in the early films.
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ScazarMeltex
11/30/20 9:52:19 PM
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0Renegade posted...
I thought inquisitors werent technically sith and are kinda like dark jedi, therefore rule of 2 wasnt broken
This is correct.

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ghettoraider81
11/30/20 9:52:46 PM
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SoIidLegacy posted...
Basically this. The audience had to have it spelled out for them that Palpatine/Vader/the Dark Side were in fact the bad guys. I get the feeling this 'spelling it out for the audience' is a thing that grows increasingly more obvious as time passes, like how in more recent Star Wars things like The Old Republic the Empire is like this human nationalist group who make no secret of how racist they are to non-humans.

Although the Imperials in the OT all seemed to be human, I don't recall any occasion where anything racist was uttered to a non-human sentient, yet even as a kid I understood that the Imperials were supposed to be the bad guys.

Imperial Officer to Luke and Han escorting Chewie: Where are you taking this.. (sneers)....thing?


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