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saspa
11/28/20 10:07:52 AM
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Just starting the game and they basically combined Persona 3's dungeon crawling with Persona 4's individualized castle world structures.

So in Persona 5 you have Mementos, which is basically the Tartarus of the game, just like Persona 3. But that's not all, it also features palaces which are unique dungeons with specialized designs, just like the TV world in Persona 4.

Pretty nifty. That way you get the chance for both, a place just to fight shadows and a story level with unique locales.
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MixedRaceBaby
11/28/20 10:11:35 AM
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i get what you mean, but persona 4's dungeon were randomly generated too, weren't they?

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DarkBuster22904
11/28/20 10:20:12 AM
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MixedRaceBaby posted...
i get what you mean, but persona 4's dungeon were randomly generated too, weren't they?
Correct.

One of the best parts of 5s palaces is that they're hand crafted, making them flow a lot better. Even the longer, more tedious ones feel so much more interesting and alive than 4's dungeons, just because they were allowed to be more than procedurally generated mazes.

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saspa
11/28/20 10:31:47 AM
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Yeah they took Persona 4's idea and then actually made them a real level, not just a randomly generated dungeon with a different skin/wallpaper. There's actual light puzzle solving and exploration. It's just enough to make them actually unique and fun.

Also I don't know if vanilla P5 had the will seeds but Royal does and while they're the only thing that uses the grappling hook, they're fun to collect.
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DarkBuster22904
11/28/20 10:43:38 AM
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saspa posted...
Yeah they took Persona 4's idea and then actually made them a real level, not just a randomly generated dungeon with a different skin/wallpaper. There's actual light puzzle solving and exploration. It's just enough to make them actually unique and fun.

Also I don't know if vanilla P5 had the will seeds but Royal does and while they're the only thing that uses the grappling hook, they're fun to collect.
I can confirm that royal added the will seeds and the grappling hook. The hook actually changed the flow and pathing of a number of the dungeons

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saspa
11/28/20 10:58:48 AM
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I wasn't able to get to vanilla P5 before Royal came out so never did see the original dungeon design. Hope nothing is lost
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hitokoriX
11/28/20 11:06:38 AM
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I know I'm in the minority opinion, but I thought Tartarus made thematic sense. In fact, I prefer it. Also mementos is far too easy, and ryujis ability means you can grind for exp in the easiest way possible

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saspa
11/28/20 11:22:38 AM
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Oh yeah, Ryuji's ability is fricking amazing. Just ramming into enemies and getting the exp/money is great, and you only engage in battles if you want to. And the Velvet Room guillotine? Forget about it. P5 is definitely the easiest one, they give you so much awesome abilities and features.
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