Current Events > Tales of Symphonia was too simple for may tastes, is Vesperia any better?

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solosnake
11/17/20 8:03:12 PM
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Its 75% off on steam currently

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Irony
11/17/20 8:06:46 PM
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You're simple

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Alucard188
11/17/20 8:06:52 PM
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It's a great game. It's probably my favourite Tales game, but it's not the best.

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Lairen
11/17/20 8:10:28 PM
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Ive never played a game so overrated. Its ok. Its fine. Typical ajrpg.

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solosnake
11/17/20 8:11:09 PM
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Graces F was my favorite tales game that i have played, i also enjoyed xillia

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Garioshi
11/17/20 8:12:18 PM
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Play Abyss instead

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solosnake
11/17/20 8:13:44 PM
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hmm, just noticed Berseria and zestria are only $8 each, are either of those worth it?

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Balrog0
11/17/20 8:13:51 PM
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What's too simple about it?

Also interested in trying vesperia, but symphonia was my last tales game and I liked it

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Irony
11/17/20 8:15:05 PM
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Zestiria is probably one of the worst in the series. People only like Berseria because Velvet is hot.

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Antifar
11/17/20 8:15:21 PM
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Balrog0 posted...

Also interested in trying vesperia, but symphonia was my last tales game and I liked it

Same, tag
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Garioshi
11/17/20 10:00:39 PM
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solosnake posted...
hmm, just noticed Berseria and zestria are only $8 each, are either of those worth it?
Berseria is good

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Evening_Dragon
11/17/20 10:04:56 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
What's too simple about it?

Simply that there isn't much to it. Your decision making matters little, and there's almost nothing beyond the stock standard RPG block/switch/resetting path puzzles. The story is basic, character designs are average... It's just extremely generic outside of the instanced realtime combat, which was rare at the time.

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Irony
11/17/20 10:06:58 PM
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Evening_Dragon posted...
Simply that there isn't much to it. Your decision making matters little, and there's almost nothing beyond the stock standard RPG block/switch/resetting path puzzles. The story is basic, character designs are average... It's just extremely generic outside of the instanced realtime combat, which was rare at the time.
This describes literally every JRPG that isn't Persona or SMT

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Esrac
11/17/20 10:09:17 PM
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I dont know what is up with Bandai Namco, but it seems like they've been having sales every two weeks lately.
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Number090684
11/17/20 10:09:58 PM
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Yes. Vesperia has much more depth when it comes to it's character variety and combat. The game isn't nearly as mash friendly as Symphonia either due to longer attack recovery times, so you're either going to have to Manual Cancel well or learn when to attack, bait enemies, guard, evade via free run and jumping to play the game well.

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Number090684
11/17/20 10:11:40 PM
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Garioshi posted...
Play Abyss instead

Nah. Abyss is barely deeper than Symphonia is, and in a few gameplay aspects it's actually inferior to it.

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Smackems
11/17/20 10:13:36 PM
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Solid 8/10

Plenty of stuff to mess around with in terms of rpg stuff and fighting mechanics

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Evening_Dragon
11/17/20 10:16:38 PM
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Irony posted...
This describes literally every JRPG that isn't Persona or SMT

Dragon Quest 3 had a bunch of little neat shit, in addition to a great minigame and unorthodox events, like becoming king, getting magic to shapeshift that affects a surprising number of interactions, the memory spells trying into the plot, bunch of optional content that had clever interactions. If you tried to avoid grinding, you actually had to try in battles.

With Symphonia, you kinda just mashed whatever resulted in the strongest hits, because, since 3/4s of your squad is under AI control at all times aside from the big combo spells, your decisions are limited.

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Balrog0
11/17/20 10:41:00 PM
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Evening_Dragon posted...
Simply that there isn't much to it. Your decision making matters little, and there's almost nothing beyond the stock standard RPG block/switch/resetting path puzzles. The story is basic, character designs are average... It's just extremely generic outside of the instanced realtime combat, which was rare at the time.

Well I mean I kinda remember the story and kinda liked it, and the characters and art. You could have a different date like in ff7! I definitely did hate the 'puzzles'

I just thought he meant the combat which I assume is outdated

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DoGCyN
11/17/20 10:43:20 PM
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Vespiria is worse than Symphonia, albeit has updated combat slightly.

Berseria is what you want. Abyss is good too if you want something more classic

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Balrog0
11/17/20 10:46:44 PM
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DoGCyN posted...
Vespiria is worse than Symphonia, albeit has updated combat slightly.

Berseria is what you want. Abyss is good too if you want something more classic

I don't understand

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DoGCyN
11/17/20 10:48:15 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
I don't understand
Vespiria es peor que Symphonia, aunque ha actualizado ligeramente el combate.

Berseria es lo que quieres. Abyss tambin es bueno si quieres algo ms clsico.


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Balrog0
11/17/20 10:48:58 PM
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No I can read the language I just don't know what the substance of it being better or worse means in this context

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Balrog0
11/17/20 10:49:12 PM
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DoGCyN
11/17/20 10:50:19 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
No I can read the language I just don't know what the substance of it being better or worse means in this context
Vespiria has very poor characters and story, contrary to Symphonia.

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DoGCyN
11/17/20 10:51:05 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
Or 'more classic'
Berseria has an updated combat system. I didn't play Graces F so I'm not sure if it follows the standard HP/MP route or if it scrapped MP for the new system that Berseria uses

Berseria also has my favorite story in the entire series. And Magilou. It has Magilou.

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HaunterClaws
11/17/20 10:57:16 PM
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Only ever played Berseria and Vesperia, but I'd recommend both.
Vesperia has better variety in combat, but breaking the game as Velvet in Berseria is also satisfying!

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PowerOats
11/17/20 11:35:24 PM
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Define Simple

So long as you don't get Zestiria, you should be good

But yes, I recommend Vesperia and Berseria
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Balrog0
11/17/20 11:36:25 PM
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I've literally had vesperia on switch for months and never tried it

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Balrog0
11/17/20 11:37:45 PM
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I forgot I had bought it on sale

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MaxEffingBemis
11/17/20 11:39:55 PM
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Vesperia is great. Yuri is one of my fave protags ever

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Alucard188
11/18/20 12:14:08 AM
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OP should play them in sequential order. Start with Phantasia.

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Beveren_Rabbit
11/18/20 6:08:39 PM
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Why was Lloyd and the gang keeping Regal prisoner ?
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Prestoff
11/18/20 6:10:55 PM
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I don't know, I actually liked the subversion on the "chosen one" trope when they reach tethe'alla, it's still pretty cliched when it comes to the anime tropes though.


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solosnake
11/19/20 1:29:42 PM
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I ended up getting both vesperia and berseria

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