Board 8 > Fuck 2020 Mafia: Topic 3 - You Know The Thing

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masterplum posted...

Any half decent scum player will show life as lynch leader.

I dont think that reflects on his alignment

Are we still trying to say I didn't have life prior.

This is just ridiculous tbh.

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I have in fact lost the lean on Red since I keep secondguessing myself as usual, and DYLs absense is becoming the stronger force in my mind.
And I keep getting sidetracked from my proper catchup, so I will have to get back to you on that.

Not Aecioo, thats for sure.
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Simply because of his foot or for other reasons, Death?

I actually think any arguments about lynch configurations are usually terrible ones. Town-Town, Town-Scum, Scum-Scum all happen.

its funny, it always seems like as town scum is this homogenous secret entity, then you roll scum and realize its completely disorganized before lylo

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red13n posted...

Are we still trying to say I didn't have life prior.

This is just ridiculous tbh.

You showed up to talk about the video.

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MysteriousStan posted...

in which the two leading lynch candidates aren't even voting each other

I'd argue this makes them MORE likely they're scum, not less. We're an hour away from the finish line, why aren't these two focused on self-survival. Red is especially egregious on this front- he's already that he is suspicious of DYL.

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Town-Town is statistically most likely.

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To be more clear about why
Red gave a decent enough explanation for why he avoided the Chris mess and I cannot deny that he may have lost the heart, yet I still think a townred should have and would fought back more. And that leaves me torn. Hence the re-reading
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Red time to claim.

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(or die)

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Hbthebattle posted...

Red is especially egregious on this front- he's already that he is suspicious of DYL.

? No.

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not a fan of han's votes/early game, and thought i was going to make this post voting for him, but my gut likes his pop-in redemption post in this topic although i can't verify anything. feels smooth

going to be pretty annoyed if/when red ends up scum, i dont like feeling dumb

dont' like aecioo, tange, ben, IGCD for popping in briefly for bad votes, micro defenses and low analysis. i feel bad because i know i'm sure i'm missing someone but it's hard to keep track of all the low contributors in a time crunch

probably going to have to change my posting/analysis strategy

plum and scare have recently been riding the red wagon with at least some explained logic, although tbh scare's looked more like a defensive technique

cutting myself off here to hit submit and focus on the vote leaders instead of ramble pointlessly

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MysteriousStan posted...

Simply because of his foot or for other reasons, Death?

No not because of his foot. More because I get a general sense that Aecioo is being propped up as a diversion
And I confess my reluctance to lynch someone who may not be able to show up is a factor here too.

(not so much with DYL, since he had plenty of chances to do something about the suspicion on him)
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I think its very possibly DYL is just bad town here.

This was my most direct comment on DYL's alignment today, HB.

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i feel relatively powerless here, but i still don't like the red train and the fact that chris is sticking with it

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In that game, Aecioo got into an argument with someone early and tunneled him.. I just don't remember who, but not a regular to here I think. It was town/town I felt Aecioo was using a bad tunnel on that other person as an excuse to not focus on any other part of the game. He wasn't very active aside from it and I harassed him over it until I got into a fight with him too.

##Unvote

I'm seriously pondering what game this was, this sudden flash of memory makes me feel far less secure with the vote.

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We arent lynching Han or Chris D1

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banananor posted...

i feel relatively powerless here, but i still don't like the red train and the fact that chris is sticking with it

fun fact: you have the same power to post as I do day 1, so use it more wisely.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

What do you think of the people who are voting for them?

I have a towny opinion of Chris, Scare, Ben, and Stan from that list. I have a more scummy opinion on Dowolf and Plum, and am fairly worried about Han as well, and the rest I'm neutral on currently.

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

fun fact: you have the same power to post as I do day 1, so use it more wisely.

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masterplum posted...

We arent lynching Han or Chris D1

If this is your logic D1, there isn't a real reason to not apply it day 2 onward. You will end up in an endless trap of never having a strong enough voice to lynch the best players.

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

fun fact: you have the same power to post as I do day 1, so use it more wisely.

please don't talk down to me, i get that your style is trumpian/gusto-based but i just don't want to deal with it

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red13n posted...

If this is your logic D1, there isn't a real reason to not apply it day 2 onward. You will end up in an endless trap of never having a strong enough voice to lynch the best players.

Why the hell lynch someone who will eat a shot N1 anyways

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Hbthebattle posted...

I'd argue this makes them MORE likely they're scum, not less. We're an hour away from the finish line, why aren't these two focused on self-survival. Red is especially egregious on this front- he's already that he is suspicious of DYL.

Incorrect. Red has stated he thinks DYL is bad town.

Hb has been rising rapidly up my list in the last 30 minutes.

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htaeD posted...

No not because of his foot. More because I get a general sense that Aecioo is being propped up as a diversion
And I confess my reluctance to lynch someone who may not be able to show up is a factor here too.

(not so much with DYL, since he had plenty of chances to do something about the suspicion on him)

This would imply you don't like the people on Aecioo then correct?

banananor posted...

please don't talk down to me, i get that your style is trumpian/gusto-based but i just don't want to deal with it

He wasn't talking down to you, he was stating an absolute fact.

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

fun fact: you have the same power to post as I do day 1, so use it more wisely.

You've hardly posted with any intent today. You've just run into a particularly spineless voter base.

No one has good conviction to vote me and yet here I am with the most votes. I don't even know a great way to sway them because they can't even stand up for their own votes. I've asked, no ones bothered to actually do it.

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That "today" was a blanket game day, btw.

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Sounds like someone has been caught for the wrong reasons, red.


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red13n posted...

You've hardly posted with any intent today. You've just run into a particularly spineless voter base.

And again, no disrespect to those of you that are actually scum. Statistically, probably not all town on me. Those of you are town, and statistically a good chunk of you probably are. You are spineless and I've actually tried to engage with you and none of you do it, you keep deferring to others. I told you I'd refute literally anything because I'm kind of pissed off if you couldn't tell.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Hb has been rising rapidly up my list in the last 30 minutes.

As I do every game I play with you, apparently. But sure, try to push me- you've got about 56 minutes before I become effectively unlynchable this game.

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banananor posted...

please don't talk down to me, i get that your style is trumpian/gusto-based but i just don't want to deal with it

Uh, that's not Trumpian. You were whining that you felt powerless. Play the game or get out of my way. I have been playing for 20 years and don't have time for this. Better? Don't fucking ever tell me I am talking down to you, I assure you I was not.

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I'll go further that just about every time Hb posts, my urge to special him rises. He seems to be posting from a position of disconnect from the game but acting like he knows what's going on.

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Sounds like someone has been caught for the wrong reasons, red.

Red did the exact same thing he did as scum last time that I lynched him for and his response has been to insult me. That actually explains his antagonism perfectly

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Sounds like someone has been caught for the wrong reasons, red.

Thats literally, no.

Just no.

You can't say I'm caught for the wrong reasons when today has literally been town red at maximum town red.

Thats just a load of fucking bullshit.

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masterplum posted...

Red did the exact same thing he did as scum last time that I lynched him for and his response has been to insult me. That actually explains his antagonism perfectly

Yes.

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Hbthebattle posted...

As I do every game I play with you, apparently. But sure, try to push me- you've got about 56 minutes before I become effectively unlynchable this game.

Interesting how you cut out the important part of the post.

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masterplum posted...

Red did the exact same thing he did as scum last time that I lynched him for and his response has been to insult me. That actually explains his antagonism perfectly

Plum, my response is always to insult you. I'm not joking when I say I don't respect you. I think not high things about you. Thats not a scumtell.

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red13n posted...

I've asked for an actual reason to lynch me and no one has given me anything. how the hell do I defend that.

I thought your vote on PJ was awful. That's why I was initially curious of you.

People keep saying this and I'm going to remind you that you have all mostly misinterpreted this. It really wasn't as strong a reaction as you keep making it out to be.

I guess I just took your "let's kill PJ today" or whatever you said at face value.

Fwiw, I am actually slightly less interested in a red13n lynch. At first, nothing he said actually convinced me. But over the last 1-2 hours, dude has been very active and engaging and I like that.

masterplum posted...

Votal report: The DYL train of people is scummy as hell

Who specifically? DYL was on my list of bad ppl so I wanna know who you don't like from it.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

but I will catch up on the thread now to see if red has shown any pulse of life.

I think he kind of has. Prior to your initial vote, he definitely had not.

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red13n posted...

Thats literally, no.

Just no.

You can't say I'm caught for the wrong reasons when today has literally been town red at maximum town red.

Thats just a load of fucking bullshit.

Saying you're town red over and over does not make you actually town red

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Hbthebattle posted...

As I do every game I play with you, apparently. But sure, try to push me- you've got about 56 minutes before I become effectively unlynchable this game.

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red13n posted...

You can't say I'm caught for the wrong reasons when today has literally been town red at maximum town red.

I've been at best neutral on you at any point in the day.

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anyway my research of red is he is alive but actively scummy now.

Don't know what y'all will decide but my vote is fine by me.

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Like, do you not understand that on a list of my level of respect for this player list, everyone else gets listed, then there is a big blank space, and then there is plum?

I respect ulti more than you because at least ulti knows hes a troll. I wouldnt want to play with him over you, but level of respect? Yeah hes above you lol.

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red13n posted...

Like, do you not understand that on a list of my level of respect for this player list, everyone else gets listed, then there is a big blank space, and then there is plum?

I respect ulti more than you because at least ulti knows hes a troll. I wouldnt want to play with him over you, but level of respect? Yeah hes above you lol.

Red is just openly wolfing lol

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Hbthebattle posted...

Saying you're town red over and over does not make you actually town red

Then tell me what fucking makes me scum red. Because no one has been able to do this. I've asked.

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Crescent-Moon posted...

He wasn't talking down to you, he was stating an absolute fact.

it wasn't a fact, it was a command! i don't want to turn this into a distraction, but i am a little more logic-oriented

all that we can gauge from this is that it's very, very unlikely red and chris are scumbuddies

i would vote for aecioo, tange, ben, or IGCD, or scare, not an exclusive list

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okay I guess I was wrong

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banananor posted...

it wasn't a fact, it was a command! i don't want to turn this into a distraction, but i am a little more logic-oriented

all that we can gauge from this is that it's very, very unlikely red and chris are scumbuddies

i would vote for aecioo, tange, ben, or IGCD, or scare, not an exclusive list

lmao, it really wasn't.

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red13n posted...

Then tell me what f***ing makes me scum red. Because no one has been able to do this. I've asked.

I quoted you and told you. The weakest vote of all time was the initial reason

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