Current Events > IS the number of covid cases misleading?

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Looking at numbers it seems to be spiking up more and more, now up to levels comparable with march and april, but the number of deaths has been constant for months, with no increase there.

Does that show that we are simply testing more, or what is the reason for the number of deaths not increasing?

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We know more about the symptoms of the virus and how to treat them than we did back in March and April.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america?view=infections-testing&tab=trend&test=tests

The spike in cases doesn't match the increase in tests at all. The idea that we're seeing more cases just because we're testing more has always been idiotic. The % of positive tests has been increasing.

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CableZL posted...

We know more about the symptoms of the virus and how to treat them than we did back in March and April.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america?view=infections-testing&tab=trend&test=tests

The spike in cases doesn't match the increase in tests at all. The idea that we're seeing more cases just because we're testing more has always been idiotic. The % of positive tests has been increasing.

Is there a thing showing the percentage of positive tests?

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It's only "misleading" in the sense that both the CDC and WHO admit the likely number of real cases is probably 10-20X the recorded number of cases:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/21/health/us-coronavirus-tuesday/index.html

"For most sites, it is likely that greater than 10 times more ... infections occurred than the number of reported Covid-19 cases," the team wrote.

https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-archive-united-nations-54a3a5869c9ae4ee623497691e796083

GENEVA (AP) The head of emergencies at the World Health Organization said Monday the agencys best estimates indicate roughly 1 in 10 people worldwide may have been infected by the coronavirus more than 20 times the number of confirmed cases and warned of a difficult period ahead.

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1 in 10.... chance of reinfection within 3 months if they survive.
we're fucked.
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We're definitely not getting the whole truth without knowing how many people are recovering or the extent to which people have contracted the virus.

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deaths ARE going up lol

like we just past 10000 deaths in a single day just recently, and if this topic is just talking about US only then we are seeing an uptick of deaths in the last few weeks.

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kingdrake2 posted...

1 in 10.... chance of reinfection within 3 months if they survive.
we're fucked.

This is what I worry about. My mom passed from COVID and it started hitting everyone else in the family. all I do now is worry about my dad or my wife getting it again.

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Grinderpug posted...

My mom passed from COVID

:(. that's the worse thing that could happen
gawd damnit
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I remember hearing NY was only able to test 20k people a day back in March/April and can now test over 200,000 a day.

So it likely NY and other states had way more cases.

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Deaths have not been constant. They have risen after spikes in new cases, just lagging by a few weeks. Deaths haven't been as high as they were in the first wave because we're more prepared now and treatments are better. But they still rose after the second spike in July. And we're now at over twice the rate of new cases per day than we were at the peak of the July wave. Deaths are rising and they will continue to rise.

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kingdrake2 posted...

1 in 10.... chance of reinfection within 3 months if they survive.
we're fucked.

From my understanding, once someone gets covid, your body is much less likely to have severe symptoms if you catch it a 2nd time due to your bodys T cells. You can still get it again since the antibodies weaken after the infection is eliminated (which is the reason for seasonal vaccinations), but the T cells can eliminate the virus more efficiently if you do get it a 2nd time.

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/what-is-the-role-of-t-cells-in-covid-19-infection-why-immunity-is-about-more-than-antibodies/

Potential for long-term immunity
Early research suggests that the antibodies in people infected with SARS-CoV-2 dropped significantly within 2 to 3 months, causing concern that humoral immunity against the virus may decline rapidly. However, it is a normal part of the immune response that antibody levels fall after an infection has resolved. For example, in seasonal coronavirus infections, antibodies start to decline at about a week after infection and typically only last for about a year. It should also be noted that memory T and B cells are formed after infection; these can be reactivated when another infection with the same virus occurs and could provide long-lasting immunity. A preliminary study that has not yet undergone peer review has shown that memory T and B cells were found in patients with mild COVID-19 symptoms who had recovered and that these cells persisted, suggesting the potential for longer-term immunity.

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y'all there is a difference between the amount of deaths rising and the % of cases resulting in death rising.


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