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Lord_Wombat 11/11/20 1:17:04 PM #1:	How do people actually say things like this and expect to be taken seriously? Games evolve, if Final Fantasy XII (for example) played like FF1, it wouldn't sell since there are 11 others of the same damn game. Same with Mario, Zelda, Metal Gear, etc. --- R.I.P. Super Smash Bros. 1/21/99-10/1/20 *"Smash is just MUGEN with a budget at this point" -BlueAnnihilator* Have truer words ever been spoken? <cite>Lord_Wombat posted [p:947037345] in "It's... [t:79102513]...</cite> <quote>How do people actually say things like this and expect to be taken seriously? Games evolve, if Final Fantasy XII (for example) played like FF1, it wouldn't sell since there are 11 others of the same damn game. Same with Mario, Zelda, Metal Gear, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 11/11/20 1:19:07 PM #2:	some evolved into shit, like FF12 --- https://i.imgtc.com/PruZV73.png https://imgur.com/lbSi0U3 https://imgur.com/xaRYKZM https://imgur.com/ZngbqJn <cite>ModLogic posted [p:947037431] in "It's... [t:79102513]...</cite> <quote>some evolved into shit, like FF12 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 11/11/20 1:20:40 PM #3:	There are times when it's fair. But you're right about games like Final Fantasy or Mario. They change, and it's ridiculous to say such things --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:947037497] in "It's... [t:79102513]...</cite> <quote>There are times when it's fair. But you're right about games like Final Fantasy or Mario. They change, and it's ridiculous to say such things </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meestermj 11/11/20 1:21:00 PM #4:	Dark Souls 2 Its not a bad game, just the worst in the series. --- Psn: beastlytoast Left-handed fire-slapsies leave me feeling confused about life. - Merydia <cite>meestermj posted [p:947037509] in "It's... [t:79102513]...</cite> <quote>Dark Souls 2 Its not a bad game, just the worst in the series. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PatrickMahomes 11/11/20 1:23:51 PM #6:	Xenoblade Chronicles X is a fantastic game, but it's a bad example of a Xenoblade game. --- NFLB 2020 Summersim Roster mk. 1 (12-4): https://imgur.com/4Pvr5rT NFLB 2020 Summersim Roster mk. 2 (11-5) (ELIMINATED): https://imgur.com/BBhN2z3 <cite>PatrickMahomes posted [p:947037608] in "It's... [t:79102513]...</cite> <quote>Xenoblade Chronicles X is a fantastic game, but it's a bad example of a Xenoblade game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lord_Wombat 11/11/20 1:24:09 PM #7:	ModLogic posted... some evolved into shit, like FF12 Yeah, they definitely don't get it right every time. meestermj posted... Dark Souls 2 Its not a bad game, just the worst in the series. 100%. I can deal with "worst in the series", but something like "I love BOTW but it's a terrible Zelda game" kills me every time. --- R.I.P. Super Smash Bros. 1/21/99-10/1/20 *"Smash is just MUGEN with a budget at this point" -BlueAnnihilator* Have truer words ever been spoken? <cite>Lord_Wombat posted [p:947037615] in "It's... [t:79102513]...</cite> <quote>ModLogic posted...</cite> <quote>some evolved into shit, like FF12 </quote> Yeah, they definitely don't get it right every time. meestermj posted...</cite> <quote>Dark Souls 2 Its not a bad game, just the worst in the series. </quote> 100%. I can deal with "worst in the series", but something like "I love BOTW but it's a terrible Zelda game" kills me every time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmbraceOfDeath 11/11/20 1:24:09 PM #8:	If a game is part of a series, it should evolve in a way that keeps the good aspects of the series intact. BotW is a fun game but it hardly resembles a Zelda game because it changed too much. --- PSN/GT: BigDaffej <cite>EmbraceOfDeath posted [p:947037616] in "It's... [t:79102513]...</cite> <quote>If a game is part of a series, it should evolve in a way that keeps the good aspects of the series intact. BotW is a fun game but it hardly resembles a Zelda game because it changed too much. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
One_Day_Remains 11/11/20 1:24:26 PM #9:	You obviously don't understand what that statement means. Breath of the Wild on its own is a good game, but if you're going into it expecting a typical Zelda experience, you're going to be disappointed. The game is clearly unconventional and stands out from the rest of the Zelda franchise aside from maybe the first two games, in both good ways and bad. --- Ten sounds sound like bloated constipated arena rock - GhettoFlip <cite>One_Day_Remains posted [p:947037631] in "It's... [t:79102513]...</cite> <quote>You obviously don't understand what that statement means. Breath of the Wild on its own is a good game, but if you're going into it expecting a typical Zelda experience, you're going to be disappointed. The game is clearly unconventional and stands out from the rest of the Zelda franchise aside from maybe the first two games, in both good ways and bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 11/11/20 1:25:36 PM #10:	Mario Sunshine --- https://imgur.com/ZWNgMXL Formerly known as Villain <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:947037674] in "It's... [t:79102513]...</cite> <quote>Mario Sunshine </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DK9292 11/11/20 1:26:54 PM #11:	Lord_Wombat posted... Games evolve If it became worse than previous entries, did it really evolve? --- ''It doesn't matter if we're devils! I can't abandon the person who's fighting this battle beside me to the very end!'' ~Sunshine, Kinnikuman <cite>DK9292 posted [p:947037740] in "It's... [t:79102513]...</cite> <quote>Lord_Wombat posted... </cite> <quote>Games evolve</quote>If it became worse than previous entries, did it really evolve? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Korey 11/11/20 1:27:09 PM #12:	Breath of Fire 6 is a bad Breath of Fire game. Fight me. --- https://imgur.com/PpxZDof \| https://imgur.com/xMGLcGE https://imgur.com/nsBw6Sy \| https://imgtc.com/i/sBYBaew.png <cite>The_Korey posted [p:947037745] in "It's... [t:79102513]...</cite> <quote>Breath of Fire 6 is a bad Breath of Fire game. Fight me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pikachupwnage 11/11/20 1:44:32 PM #14:	DarkChozoGhost posted... There are times when it's fair. But you're right about games like Final Fantasy or Mario. They change, and it's ridiculous to say such things Yeah. Like if a game goes from an exploration driver Platformer to on rails story driven shooter its fair to say. --- My Mario Maker 2 Maker ID is J2K-RFD-K4G Even In sigs FOE! http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif <cite>pikachupwnage posted [p:947038372] in "It's... [t:79102513]...</cite> <quote>DarkChozoGhost posted... </cite> <quote>There are times when it's fair. But you're right about games like Final Fantasy or Mario. They change, and it's ridiculous to say such things</quote> Yeah. Like if a game goes from an exploration driver Platformer to on rails story driven shooter its fair to say. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
philsov 11/11/20 1:44:46 PM #15:	breath of fire: dragon quarter Godawful breath of fire game Absolutely amazing game; RPG with "high score" mode, basically. --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. <cite>philsov posted [p:947038386] in "It's... [t:79102513]...</cite> <quote>breath of fire: dragon quarter Godawful breath of fire game Absolutely amazing game; RPG with "high score" mode, basically.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
One_Day_Remains 11/11/20 2:34:09 PM #16:	ArianaGrandSlam posted... I dont agree with BotW being a terrible Zelda game because its the closest to Zelda 1. It feels exactly like what an extension of that original game would be. What does that matter? It's clear that they didn't intend to maintain Zelda 1's structure --- Ten sounds sound like bloated constipated arena rock - GhettoFlip <cite>One_Day_Remains posted [p:947040154] in "It's... [t:79102513]...</cite> <quote>ArianaGrandSlam posted...</cite> <quote>I dont agree with BotW being a terrible Zelda game because its the closest to Zelda 1. It feels exactly like what an extension of that original game would be. </quote> What does that matter? It's clear that they didn't intend to maintain Zelda 1's structure</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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nfearurspecimn 11/11/20 2:38:08 PM #18:	Metroid Fusion --- Wake up. You have to wake up. currently a preta (hungry ghost) <cite>nfearurspecimn posted [p:947040327] in "It's... [t:79102513]...</cite> <quote>Metroid Fusion </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
One_Day_Remains 11/11/20 2:39:06 PM #19:	ArianaGrandSlam posted... Then none of the others are true Zelda games. No, that's not how it works. At all --- Ten sounds sound like bloated constipated arena rock - GhettoFlip <cite>One_Day_Remains posted [p:947040369] in "It's... [t:79102513]...</cite> <quote>ArianaGrandSlam posted...</cite> <quote> Then none of the others are true Zelda games. </quote> No, that's not how it works. At all</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/11/20 2:41:34 PM #20:	Super Paper Mario <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:947040453] in "It's... [t:79102513]...</cite> <quote>Super Paper Mario </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Killmonger 11/11/20 2:43:09 PM #21:	Fallout 4? --- "I will die of cancer before I let another dude finger my a******e." - ZeroX91 <cite>Killmonger posted [p:947040522] in "It's... [t:79102513]...</cite> <quote>Fallout 4? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordFarquad1312 11/11/20 2:44:43 PM #22:	Resident Evil 4 is a terrible RE game and I'm glad they brought the franchise back to its roots with VII and RE2make --- El sexo sucio y el planeta limpio. "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." <cite>LordFarquad1312 posted [p:947040591] in "It's... [t:79102513]...</cite> <quote>Resident Evil 4 is a terrible RE game and I'm glad they brought the franchise back to its roots with VII and RE2make </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The23rdMagus 11/11/20 2:45:18 PM #23:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSLMjJJgFyg Relevant. Some game series find a formula and stick to it, and some branch out to the point where they might be difficult to recognize as part of a coherent series. The advantage and disadvantage is the same: you pick up a new game in the series, and you know exactly what you're getting from it. --- ~Drewnami~ A beacon of Light from a burning screen. <cite>The23rdMagus posted [p:947040620] in "It's... [t:79102513]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSLMjJJgFyg Relevant. Some game series find a formula and stick to it, and some branch out to the point where they might be difficult to recognize as part of a coherent series. The advantage and disadvantage is the same: you pick up a new game in the series, and you know exactly what you're getting from it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightHawKnight 11/11/20 2:45:28 PM #24:	I dont understand why anyone wants a series to "evolve". Isn't the whole point of a series is to be mostly similar? I mean when I want to play Dragon Quest, I want to play Dragon Quest. I am not expecting the next game to be Final Fantasy. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." <cite>LightHawKnight posted [p:947040624] in "It's... [t:79102513]...</cite> <quote>I dont understand why anyone wants a series to "evolve". Isn't the whole point of a series is to be mostly similar? I mean when I want to play Dragon Quest, I want to play Dragon Quest. I am not expecting the next game to be Final Fantasy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
One_Day_Remains 11/11/20 2:51:19 PM #25:	LightHawKnight posted... I dont understand why anyone wants a series to "evolve". Isn't the whole point of a series is to be mostly similar? I mean when I want to play Dragon Quest, I want to play Dragon Quest. I am not expecting the next game to be Final Fantasy. Evolution can go either way in terms of quality. Final Fantasy proves that evolution can be detrimental --- Ten sounds sound like bloated constipated arena rock - GhettoFlip <cite>One_Day_Remains posted [p:947040849] in "It's... [t:79102513]...</cite> <quote>LightHawKnight posted...</cite> <quote>I dont understand why anyone wants a series to "evolve". Isn't the whole point of a series is to be mostly similar? I mean when I want to play Dragon Quest, I want to play Dragon Quest. I am not expecting the next game to be Final Fantasy. </quote> Evolution can go either way in terms of quality. Final Fantasy proves that evolution can be detrimental</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KeeperOfShadows 11/11/20 2:58:20 PM #26:	It's always felt like nitpicking to me. I never cared if one game in a series played like any others. All that's ever mattered to me is that I find a game entertaining. If you liked playing the game, why does it deviating from the series formula even matter? --- Currently playing: DFFOO, FFBE <cite>KeeperOfShadows posted [p:947041114] in "It's... [t:79102513]...</cite> <quote>It's always felt like nitpicking to me. I never cared if one game in a series played like any others. All that's ever mattered to me is that I find a game entertaining. If you liked playing the game, why does it deviating from the series formula even matter? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lord_Wombat 11/11/20 3:16:03 PM #28:	DK9292 posted... If it became worse than previous entries, did it really evolve? Yes. Evolve means change, not improve. One_Day_Remains posted... You obviously don't understand what that statement means. Breath of the Wild on its own is a good game, but if you're going into it expecting a typical Zelda experience, you're going to be disappointed. The game is clearly unconventional and stands out from the rest of the Zelda franchise aside from maybe the first two games, in both good ways and bad. So it's a good game? Ok then! nfearurspecimn posted... Metroid Fusion Hey now... KeeperOfShadows posted... It's always felt like nitpicking to me. I never cared if one game in a series played like any others. All that's ever mattered to me is that I find a game entertaining. If you liked playing the game, why does it deviating from the series formula even matter? 11/10 post tbh --- R.I.P. Super Smash Bros. 1/21/99-10/1/20 *"Smash is just MUGEN with a budget at this point" -BlueAnnihilator* Have truer words ever been spoken? <cite>Lord_Wombat posted [p:947041768] in "It's... [t:79102513]...</cite> <quote>DK9292 posted...</cite> <quote> If it became worse than previous entries, did it really evolve? </quote> Yes. Evolve means change, not improve. One_Day_Remains posted...</cite> <quote>You obviously don't understand what that statement means. Breath of the Wild on its own is a good game, but if you're going into it expecting a typical Zelda experience, you're going to be disappointed. The game is clearly unconventional and stands out from the rest of the Zelda franchise aside from maybe the first two games, in both good ways and bad.</quote> So it's a good game? Ok then! nfearurspecimn posted...</cite> <quote>Metroid Fusion </quote> Hey now... KeeperOfShadows posted...</cite> <quote>It's always felt like nitpicking to me. I never cared if one game in a series played like any others. All that's ever mattered to me is that I find a game entertaining. If you liked playing the game, why does it deviating from the series formula even matter? </quote> 11/10 post tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrKapowski 11/11/20 3:27:54 PM #30:	"Evolving" Aka arbitrary changes to rip off other games --- So! You want to hear a story, eh? <cite>MrKapowski posted [p:947042232] in "It's... [t:79102513]...</cite> <quote>"Evolving" Aka arbitrary changes to rip off other games </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Guerrilla Soldier 11/11/20 3:46:04 PM #31:	if a game changes, then it's not the same thing if it's not the same thing, then you're essentially buying a brand and not a set of gameplay and rules --- Disclaimer: There's a good chance the above post could be sarcasm. Die-hard Oakland A's fan --- Keep the A's in Oakland! <cite>Guerrilla Soldier posted [p:947042934] in "It's... [t:79102513]...</cite> <quote>if a game changes, then it's not the same thing if it's not the same thing, then you're essentially buying a brand and not a set of gameplay and rules </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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