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kingdrake2
12/17/20 2:35:26 PM
#354:


DundiesAward posted...
Kinda crazy California has had 25-35k cases several days in a row and it hasn't got much attention.


last news info: they had to order body bags and refrigerated trucks aka new york scenario.
i'm still expecting it to be just as bad if not terrible right now (feels like new york when the pandemic got bad).
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CobraGT
12/17/20 3:45:42 PM
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I am not the best at rhythm and rhyme but

Deck the halls with boughs of holly, fa la la la la, la la la la
Tis the season to be jolly, fa la la la la, la la la la
Don we now our ugly sweaters, fa la la, la la la, la la la
While we ignore covid shedders. fa la la la la, la la la la

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DundiesAward
12/18/20 9:38:40 AM
#356:


kingdrake2 posted...
last news info: they had to order body bags and refrigerated trucks aka new york scenario.
i'm still expecting it to be just as bad if not terrible right now (feels like new york when the pandemic got bad).

Damn sounds like a lot of deaths incoming. The vaccine should stop the current surge right?

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DundiesAward
12/18/20 9:38:50 AM
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kingdrake2
12/18/20 10:50:49 AM
#359:


DundiesAward posted...
The vaccine should stop the current surge right?


yes but it's still a long time away before more groups have access to the vaccine.
i have to wait till group 3 i think when they vaccinate underlying conditions.
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CobraGT
12/18/20 12:47:49 PM
#360:


There was a topic on CE which got deleted but I think these two posts are worth repeating.
@Shablagoo posted

@Prestoff posted...
| Fun fact: The Spanish Flu never originated from Spain, they were the only ones who were truthful about it though.

A similar thing is happening today. Wuhan is just the first place where a coronavirus case was identified. [Sorry possibly offensive and censored by current poster]. Now we know that there were COVID cases in Italy months before the Wuhan patient:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

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DundiesAward
12/18/20 4:51:37 PM
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LameFAQs
12/18/20 5:01:08 PM
#362:


I wonder if thatll effect the vaccines at all?
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MuayThai85
12/18/20 5:12:13 PM
#363:


CobraGT posted...
There was a topic on CE which got deleted but I think these two posts are worth repeating.
@Shablagoo posted

@Prestoff posted...
| Fun fact: The Spanish Flu never originated from Spain, they were the only ones who were truthful about it though.

A similar thing is happening today. Wuhan is just the first place where a coronavirus case was identified. [Sorry possibly offensive and censored by current poster]. Now we know that there were COVID cases in Italy months before the Wuhan patient:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

It came from Wuhan because it came from the bsl-4 lab located there. I don't think they intentionally released the virus but it was likely an accidental release due to substandard safety standards that are found in every facet of mainland China. I do however believe they intentionally allowed the virus to go internationally by still allowing international travel out of Wuhan while banning all domestic travel in and out of the city.

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DundiesAward
12/18/20 6:21:11 PM
#364:


LameFAQs posted...
I wonder if thatll effect the vaccines at all?

I hope it doesn't. Sounds like there is another variant

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1340055216239030274

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littlebro07
12/18/20 6:52:56 PM
#365:


Oh great here we fucking go 2021 is gonna be 2020 v2


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DundiesAward
12/18/20 6:53:32 PM
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CobraGT
12/18/20 7:31:42 PM
#367:


Regarding the concern about variants of coronavirus being impervious to the vaccine

I think that Pfizer based its vaccine on the recipient developing an immunity to the coronavirus spike which is the same across mutations.

I think that each of the vaccines is developed off a mechanism not forseeably being neutralized by mutation because they all knew from the beginning about the mutation rate.

Each vaccine works slightly differently as well which is another fail safe.

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kingdrake2
12/18/20 8:59:05 PM
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sweden had the problem with a mutant coronavirus strain but that one died with the mink/people that got infected.
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DundiesAward
12/19/20 10:40:22 AM
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SamuelLJackdson
12/19/20 2:32:47 PM
#370:


DundiesAward posted...
https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1340091943099969543

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1340105590950006784

Those Los Angeles county cases seem to be skyrocketing at a crazy high rate. I wonder if they have the new strain that the UK found to be more transmissible
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6_7__8910
12/19/20 7:28:40 PM
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rodu_jr
12/19/20 7:33:47 PM
#373:


nope, just the goats
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littlebro07
12/19/20 7:56:30 PM
#374:


6_7__8910 posted...
https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1340444736801435649?s=21

Why am I getting March 11th vibes again

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DundiesAward
12/19/20 8:53:26 PM
#375:


littlebro07 posted...
Why am I getting March 11th vibes again

Same here. What so scary is people are trying to flee London so that UK corona mutation might spread across the world now.

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1340429370016600066

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Jx1010
12/19/20 8:56:00 PM
#376:


mrgoatthief posted...
It's going to kill us all, isn't it? Just keep mutating until our vaccines are no longer effective
What if, what if humans have become weaker in the last 100 years?

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CobraGT
12/19/20 9:05:37 PM
#377:


Jx1010 posted...
What if, what if humans have become weaker in the last 100 years?


100 years ago there was Spanish flu.

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Jx1010
12/19/20 9:07:14 PM
#378:


CobraGT posted...
100 years ago there was Spanish flu.
Did they make a vaccine for that?

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kingdrake2
12/19/20 9:07:39 PM
#379:


littlebro07 posted...
Why am I getting March 11th vibes again


history is repeating itself.
euro flu is going to be highly infectious.
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CobraGT
12/19/20 9:14:01 PM
#380:


Jx1010 posted...
What if, what if humans have become weaker in the last 100 years?

Jx1010 posted...
Did they make a vaccine for that?

I answered your question. 100 years ago humans died to Spanish flu. Also if humans were getting weaker, then each generation would be weaker so gen x weaker than millenials weaker than boomers.

Did they develop a vaccine for Spanish flu? Try a search engine.


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Jx1010
12/19/20 9:15:39 PM
#381:


CobraGT posted...
I answered your question. 100 years ago humans died to Spanish flu. Also if humans were getting weaker, then each generation would be weaker so gen x weaker than millenials weaker than boomers.

Did they develop a vaccine for Spanish flu? Try a search engine.
Why u getting all bent out of shape?
If u cant discuss it then turn off the internet.

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littlebro07
12/20/20 1:00:33 PM
#382:


https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1340717231785828358?s=19

This is it boys

All the memes about 2021 being "ROUND TWO... FIGHT" are about to become reality

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LameFAQs
12/20/20 1:18:19 PM
#383:


Yeah that doesnt sound good. I wonder if Trump bans incoming flights from the UK now? IIRC that ban was just set to expire - but Im not sure if its allowed now or not.
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CobraGT
12/20/20 1:52:02 PM
#384:


littlebro07 posted...
https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1340717231785828358?s=19

This is it boys

All the memes about 2021 being "ROUND TWO... FIGHT" are about to become reality

"which has now also been detected in the Netherlands, Denmark, and Australia"

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kingdrake2
12/20/20 2:08:11 PM
#385:


LameFAQs posted...
Yeah that doesnt sound good. I wonder if Trump bans incoming flights from the UK now? IIRC that ban was just set to expire - but Im not sure if its allowed now or not.


soon to be allowed. trump fucking the response again....
trump trying to get 4 more years through authoritarian measures.
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DundiesAward
12/20/20 2:14:09 PM
#386:


CobraGT posted...
"which has now also been detected in the Netherlands, Denmark, and Australia"

Italy too

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1340736263733821441

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LameFAQs
12/20/20 2:20:42 PM
#387:


New variant 67-75% more transmissible (95% CI), absolute R 0.39-0.93 higher.

With how contagious it was already; thats fucking scary. Its not more deadly, so thats good news. Lets hope it stays that way.
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kingdrake2
12/20/20 2:22:04 PM
#388:


LameFAQs posted...
With how contagious it was already; thats fucking scary. Its not more deadly, so thats good news. Lets hope it stays that way.


even worse news: it may take until late summer or early fall before vaccine is available to the general public.
previous estimate: late spring or early summer.
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littlebro07
12/20/20 2:23:15 PM
#389:


DundiesAward posted...
Italy too

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1340736263733821441

Oh great, not like they went through enough hell already with the first wave

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Makeveli_lives
12/20/20 2:53:22 PM
#390:


kingdrake2 posted...
even worse news: it may take until late summer or early fall before vaccine is available to the general public.
previous estimate: late spring or early summer.
Weren't they saying there was like 40 percent more per vial then expected meaning more doses for people

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thronedfire2
12/20/20 3:02:47 PM
#391:


DundiesAward posted...
Italy too

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1340736263733821441

yup, not sure why they thought isolating the UK now would prevent it from spreading. If its already been diagnosed and discovered that means it was being spread before that, just like the virus initially was


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MrFingers07
12/20/20 3:05:40 PM
#392:


I'm ignorant about this, do the vaccines not work against this mutation?

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kingdrake2
12/20/20 3:07:50 PM
#393:


Makeveli_lives posted...
Weren't they saying there was like 40 percent more per vial then expected meaning more doses for people


yes but that extra amount plus the government screwing the numbers up isn't going to help things.
states only got 40-60% of the estimates on vaccine vials.
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LameFAQs
12/20/20 3:21:09 PM
#394:


MrFingers07 posted...
I'm ignorant about this, do the vaccines not work against this mutation?

The thinking is that vaccines should still work but theres no evidence either way yet.
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DoctorPiranha3
12/20/20 4:49:11 PM
#395:


This mutation is scary shit
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rodu_jr
12/20/20 6:34:28 PM
#396:


so what is known about this new mutation?
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DundiesAward
12/20/20 8:36:26 PM
#397:


https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1340825699486216192

A lot of other countries banned travel as well. Why are they all acting like it hasn't already made the jump to their countries and UK was just the first to mention/discover it.

Wouldn't be surprised if the reason California was having 50k cases a day was because they got it over there.

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CobraGT
12/21/20 2:23:31 PM
#398:


This new variant

So far only mathematical modeling shows that the new variant spreads faster. Multiple disease experts are saying this. I read it in NY Times but there are many sites reporting this.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/12/mutant-coronavirus-united-kingdom-sets-alarms-its-importance-remains-unclear

"In a press conference on Saturday, Chief Science Adviser Patrick Vallance said B.1.1.7, which first appeared in a virus isolated on 20 September,..." [been around since September.]

" ... the United Kingdom may have just picked it up first because it has the most sophisticated SARS-CoV-2 genomic monitoring in the world. Many countries have little or no sequencing."

What I am quoting below is curious but not really pertinent.
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Theyre also wondering how it evolved so fast. B.1.1.7 has acquired 17 mutations all at once, a feat never seen before."

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littlebro07
12/21/20 9:14:53 PM
#399:


Ugh...feeling sick again. I get a low fever (under 100) with a scratchy throat and headache every few months and it typically only lasts two or three days. Doesn't feel any different than any of the other times I had it and could be a dozen other things than covid but now I'm paranoid.

99.3, small headache, throat has that feeling like it's going to be a sore throat in the morning but it's been like that since yesterday and comes and goes. No cough and my breathing is fine. Wooooo

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MuayThai85
12/22/20 3:21:12 PM
#400:


Have to get tested in 90 minutes. Looks like I got it. I'm not showing any symptoms but I was just called by my boss telling me that one of my swampers just tested positive. Almost certainly have it. Constant close proximity (we're movers, impossible to avoid).

I've been dodging this virus since fucking January while in China, only to be taken out by some fucking drunk.

My entire family is likely infected. That includes my elderly parents (both with preexisting conditions), my wife, daughter, sister-in-law, and nieces (we all live together).

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DeroIin
12/22/20 3:23:39 PM
#401:


MuayThai85 posted...
Have to get tested in 90 minutes. Looks like I got it. I'm not showing any symptoms but I was just called by my boss telling me that one of my swampers just tested positive. Almost certainly have it. Constant close proximity (we're movers, impossible to avoid).

I've been dodging this virus since fucking January while in China, only to be taken out by some fucking drunk.

My entire family is likely infected. That includes my elderly parents (both with preexisting conditions), my wife, daughter, sister-in-law, and nieces (we all live together).

thats sucks ass

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thronedfire2
12/22/20 3:25:51 PM
#402:


MuayThai85 posted...
Have to get tested in 90 minutes. Looks like I got it. I'm not showing any symptoms but I was just called by my boss telling me that one of my swampers just tested positive. Almost certainly have it. Constant close proximity (we're movers, impossible to avoid).

I've been dodging this virus since fucking January while in China, only to be taken out by some fucking drunk.

My entire family is likely infected. That includes my elderly parents (both with preexisting conditions), my wife, daughter, sister-in-law, and nieces (we all live together).

you should be fine as long as you've both been wearing masks and washing your hands. I work in a kitchen and I've had like 6 coworkers test positive in the last 6 months but I never got it(we get tested once or twice a week). I even ate food cooked by someone who tested positive like 3 days later

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Jabodie
12/22/20 8:06:42 PM
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Got this alert that in San Antonio. Link goes to SA covid website but it crashed when I tried. Guess it's hitting the hospitals hard.

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