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Monolith1676 11/08/20 11:37:23 AM #1:	https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/bolivia-prepares-for-a-new-president-as-socialists-regain-power/ar-BB1aO8L6 --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:946906429] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/bolivia-prepares-for-a-new-president-as-socialists-regain-power/ar-BB1aO8L6 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 11/08/20 11:48:19 AM #2:	"turns"? --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:946906731] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>"turns"? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Annihilated 11/08/20 11:49:01 AM #4:	Maybe it'll work THIS TIME! <cite>Annihilated posted [p:946906760] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>Maybe it'll work THIS TIME! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jpenny2 11/08/20 11:49:47 AM #5:	Biden's Bolivia --- Fren Code: 2767-3374-3343 \|\| IGN: Penny \|\| TSV: 3067 \|\| Sig NFT I hate sarcasm. I'm also not too fond of irony. \| Permanently banned <cite>jpenny2 posted [p:946906785] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>Biden's Bolivia </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pkmas1702 11/08/20 11:50:06 AM #6:	Annihilated posted... Maybe it'll work THIS TIME! How many THIS TIME so far? --- I'm gonna stand outside. If anyone asks, I'm outstanding. <cite>Pkmas1702 posted [p:946906803] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>Annihilated posted... </cite> <quote>Maybe it'll work THIS TIME!</quote>How many THIS TIME so far? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VipaGTS 11/08/20 11:50:47 AM #7:	Nice --- "I devour urine just like my Portland Trailblazers, with piss poor defense." <cite>VipaGTS posted [p:946906833] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>Nice </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Colorahdo 11/08/20 11:51:10 AM #8:	Good for them I used to live there. It's not america. People dont think like americans or have american values. Half the country lives off the land. It's naive to want aggressive captialism everywhere. --- But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them - bring them here and kill them in front of me ~Jesus Christ <cite>Colorahdo posted [p:946906855] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>Good for them I used to live there. It's not america. People dont think like americans or have american values. Half the country lives off the land. It's naive to want aggressive captialism everywhere. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 11/08/20 11:55:55 AM #9:	Returns is the verb you're seeking. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:946907009] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>Returns is the verb you're seeking.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 11/08/20 12:16:42 PM #10:	Annihilated posted... Maybe it'll work THIS TIME! Democratically elected governments reinstated after a U.S. backed coup is bad somehow. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:946907700] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>Annihilated posted...</cite><quote>Maybe it'll work THIS TIME!</quote>Democratically elected governments reinstated after a U.S. backed coup is bad somehow.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 11/08/20 12:26:42 PM #11:	Antifar posted... Returns is the verb you're seeking. Mmm, and it was working pretty great for them before. Hopefully Biden wont coup this government ~~hell def try lol~~ <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:946907986] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted... </cite> <quote>Returns is the verb you're seeking.</quote>Mmm, and it was working pretty great for them before. Hopefully Biden wont coup this government hell def try lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IMNOTRAGED 11/08/20 12:29:22 PM #12:	Annihilated posted... Maybe it'll work THIS TIME! I mean it was working pretty well before so... --- https://imgur.com/kkm3QaD "Be ruthless with systems; be kind to people." <cite>IMNOTRAGED posted [p:946908081] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>Annihilated posted... </cite> <quote>Maybe it'll work THIS TIME!</quote> I mean it was working pretty well before so... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rexdragon125 11/08/20 12:30:15 PM #13:	Time for America to plant some despot to prove socialism doesn't work again <cite>Rexdragon125 posted [p:946908110] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>Time for America to plant some despot to prove socialism doesn't work again </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 11/08/20 12:31:58 PM #14:	U.S.-backed coup? What did the U.S. do this time? --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:946908183] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>U.S.-backed coup? What did the U.S. do this time? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 11/08/20 12:59:30 PM #15:	iPhone_7 posted... U.S.-backed coup? What did the U.S. do this time? There's a fraudulent U.S. based "international" organization that "verifies" vote results. It actually just exists to topple democracies for private U.S. interests. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:946909152] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>iPhone_7 posted...</cite><quote>U.S.-backed coup? What did the U.S. do this time?</quote>There's a fraudulent U.S. based "international" organization that "verifies" vote results. It actually just exists to topple democracies for private U.S. interests.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Sonic 11/08/20 1:00:39 PM #16:	Annihilated posted... Maybe it'll work THIS TIME! I'm of the opinion that Venuzuela's government didn't fall apart because of socialism strictly but mostly down to pure incompetence and corruption. Now if you want to argue those two things aren't separate we can go down that route. --- "It feels like I'm always wrong." "Nah, that's not true...I mean you just made that statement, didn't you?" <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:946909191] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>Annihilated posted... </cite> <quote>Maybe it'll work THIS TIME!</quote> I'm of the opinion that Venuzuela's government didn't fall apart because of socialism strictly but mostly down to pure incompetence and corruption. Now if you want to argue those two things aren't separate we can go down that route. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 11/09/20 3:08:24 PM #17:	ButteryMales posted... There's a fraudulent U.S. based "international" organization that "verifies" vote results. It actually just exists to topple democracies for private U.S. interests. i dont think the US had something to do with their constitution saying evo couldnt run --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:946955319] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite> <quote>There's a fraudulent U.S. based "international" organization that "verifies" vote results. It actually just exists to topple democracies for private U.S. interests.</quote>i dont think the US had something to do with their constitution saying evo couldnt run </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BilalPowell 11/09/20 3:22:16 PM #18:	Hope some Bernie bros move there --- Former #1 Birmingham Iron Fan. RIP AAF <cite>BilalPowell posted [p:946955890] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>Hope some Bernie bros move there </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 11/09/20 3:45:03 PM #19:	marc55 posted... i dont think the US had something to do with their constitution saying evo couldnt run Their courts deemed barring him was a human rights violation. Why should him running for a 4th term excuse helping theocratic racists steal power? <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:946956803] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>marc55 posted...</cite><quote>i dont think the US had something to do with their constitution saying evo couldnt run</quote>Their courts deemed barring him was a human rights violation. Why should him running for a 4th term excuse helping theocratic racists steal power?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 11/09/20 3:48:42 PM #20:	Annihilated posted... Maybe it'll work THIS TIME! It worked so well that they stopped your fascist coup. Stay mad. --- https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/261-politics/78252375/931554955 https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://imgur.com/ZkQRDsR - https://imgur.com/2x2gtgP <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:946956953] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>Annihilated posted... </cite> <quote>Maybe it'll work THIS TIME!</quote>It worked so well that they stopped your fascist coup. Stay mad. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 11/09/20 3:48:46 PM #21:	based --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN https://imgur.com/hVC4i6j <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:946956956] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>based </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redlem 11/09/20 3:51:16 PM #22:	Well if you listen to my mom, who watches FOX News, the U.S. just became a socialist country on Saturday and AOC is going to take away all of our jet planes and gas stations. <cite>redlem posted [p:946957036] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>Well if you listen to my mom, who watches FOX News, the U.S. just became a socialist country on Saturday and AOC is going to take away all of our jet planes and gas stations. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMikh 11/09/20 3:58:36 PM #23:	haven't kept up with news in bolivia, but wasn't the country already socialist? --- https://imgur.com/A0TAfek <cite>TheMikh posted [p:946957328] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>haven't kept up with news in bolivia, but wasn't the country already socialist? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 11/09/20 3:58:38 PM #24:	The big brains who thought Buttigieg was a CIA plant who rigged Iowa now think there was a fascist coup in Bolivia but they decided to hold a free and fair election right afterwards for some reason. Between these people and Trump supporters I honestly couldn't tell you who is dumber. It's a dead heat. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:946957329] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>The big brains who thought Buttigieg was a CIA plant who rigged Iowa now think there was a fascist coup in Bolivia but they decided to hold a free and fair election right afterwards for some reason. Between these people and Trump supporters I honestly couldn't tell you who is dumber. It's a dead heat. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
theAteam 11/09/20 4:10:59 PM #25:	Broseph_Stalin posted... but they decided to hold a free and fair election right afterwards for some reason. The "reason" would be mass worker strikes shutting down the country to protest the interim government delaying having an election. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-bolivia-election-protests/bolivian-worker-union-marches-against-election-delay-as-tensions-mount-idUSKCN24T2X9 --- Buffalo Bills Preseason Prediction: 10-6 2020 Season Record: 7-2 Next game: @ ARI <cite>theAteam posted [p:946957757] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>but they decided to hold a free and fair election right afterwards for some reason.</quote> The "reason" would be mass worker strikes shutting down the country to protest the interim government delaying having an election. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-bolivia-election-protests/bolivian-worker-union-marches-against-election-delay-as-tensions-mount-idUSKCN24T2X9 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 11/09/20 4:41:45 PM #26:	LOL!! Of course broseph would get this wrong too. --- https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/261-politics/78252375/931554955 https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://imgur.com/ZkQRDsR - https://imgur.com/2x2gtgP <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:946958946] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>LOL!! Of course broseph would get this wrong too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 11/09/20 4:43:52 PM #27:	theAteam posted... The "reason" would be mass worker strikes shutting down the country to protest the interim government delaying having an election. ...and it did end up getting delayed. 1337toothbrush posted... LOL!! Of course broseph would get this wrong too. Quoting so you can't delete. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:946959031] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>theAteam posted... </cite> <quote>The "reason" would be mass worker strikes shutting down the country to protest the interim government delaying having an election.</quote> ...and it did end up getting delayed. 1337toothbrush posted... </cite> <quote>LOL!! Of course broseph would get this wrong too.</quote> Quoting so you can't delete. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 11/09/20 4:47:39 PM #28:	Solid Sonic posted... I'm of the opinion that Venuzuela's government didn't fall apart because of socialism strictly but mostly down to pure incompetence and corruption. Now if you want to argue those two things aren't separate we can go down that route. Yeah, the problem for Venezuela is that Chavez went all-in on oil(rather than investing in and expanding other sectors as a hedge against, say...the price of oil crashing) and also was fairly authoritarian. Maduro is a less adept and charismatic politician than Chavez was, but he has a firm grip on power, and promising to "liberalize" the economy(i.e. sell off the oil for foreign interests in order to line their pockets) is not a wise move for those seeking to restore democracy. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:946959165] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>Solid Sonic posted... </cite> <quote>I'm of the opinion that Venuzuela's government didn't fall apart because of socialism strictly but mostly down to pure incompetence and corruption. Now if you want to argue those two things aren't separate we can go down that route.</quote>Yeah, the problem for Venezuela is that Chavez went all-in on oil(rather than investing in and expanding other sectors as a hedge against, say...the price of oil crashing) and also was fairly authoritarian. Maduro is a less adept and charismatic politician than Chavez was, but he has a firm grip on power, and promising to "liberalize" the economy(i.e. sell off the oil for foreign interests in order to line their pockets) is not a wise move for those seeking to restore democracy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 11/09/20 4:47:43 PM #29:	TheMikh posted... haven't kept up with news in bolivia, but wasn't the country already socialist? It had previously been led by socialist president Evo Morales, who was ousted in a coup last year. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:946959170] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>TheMikh posted...</cite> <quote>haven't kept up with news in bolivia, but wasn't the country already socialist? </quote> It had previously been led by socialist president Evo Morales, who was ousted in a coup last year.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 11/09/20 4:49:05 PM #30:	Broseph_Stalin posted... ...and it did end up getting delayed. Quoting so you can't delete. Fascism needs public support if it's going to get past the starting phase. I grant you it was a failed attempted coup but it's still a coup. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:946959226] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite><quote>...and it did end up getting delayed. Quoting so you can't delete.</quote>Fascism needs public support if it's going to get past the starting phase. I grant you it was a failed attempted coup but it's still a coup.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 11/09/20 4:54:42 PM #31:	ButteryMales posted... Fascism needs public support if it's going to get past the starting phase. Not really. Evo went for the typical power grab and the country rejected him while still maintaining their support for his party. It's not that complicated. <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:946959447] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite> <quote>Fascism needs public support if it's going to get past the starting phase.</quote> Not really. Evo went for the typical power grab and the country rejected him while still maintaining their support for his party. It's not that complicated. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 11/09/20 4:59:27 PM #32:	Broseph_Stalin posted... Not really. Evo went for the typical power grab and the country rejected him while still maintaining their support for his party. It's not that complicated. Didn't the country vote for him? You'll recall that the coup came about after the election, and was supposedly a response to fraudulent results. But those claims have since been proven to be unfounded https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/28/world/americas/bolivia-election-fraud.html https://www.cepr.net/data-from-bolivias-election-add-more-evidence-that-oas-fabricated-last-years-fraud-claims/ You might as well say the stop the steal freaks are rejecting Biden's power grab right now. --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:946959649] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>Not really. Evo went for the typical power grab and the country rejected him while still maintaining their support for his party. It's not that complicated.</quote>Didn't the country vote for him? You'll recall that the coup came about after the election, and was supposedly a response to fraudulent results. But those claims have since been proven to be unfounded https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/28/world/americas/bolivia-election-fraud.html https://www.cepr.net/data-from-bolivias-election-add-more-evidence-that-oas-fabricated-last-years-fraud-claims/ You might as well say the stop the steal freaks are rejecting Biden's power grab right now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 11/09/20 5:21:08 PM #33:	Broseph_Stalin posted... ...and it did end up getting delayed. The pressure was still there. Broseph_Stalin posted... Quoting so you can't delete. I wasn't planning on deleting, but thanks for highlighting how right I am while you show off how wrong you are. --- https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/261-politics/78252375/931554955 https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://imgur.com/ZkQRDsR - https://imgur.com/2x2gtgP <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:946960519] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>...and it did end up getting delayed.</quote>The pressure was still there. Broseph_Stalin posted... </cite> <quote>Quoting so you can't delete.</quote>I wasn't planning on deleting, but thanks for highlighting how right I am while you show off how wrong you are. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paerarru 11/09/20 9:30:59 PM #34:	To be fair it was Morales's bad idea to run four times. You can't do that, you have to learn to do things democratically. You can't give the pigs any excuse to discredit you, that's like their whole game nowadays. This is the real meaning of staying vigilant. --- Hottest K-Pop Girl Group http://challonge.com/96st4ysk <cite>paerarru posted [p:946970396] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>To be fair it was Morales's bad idea to run four times. You can't do that, you have to learn to do things democratically. You can't give the pigs any excuse to discredit you, that's like their whole game nowadays. This is the real meaning of staying vigilant. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 11/09/20 9:58:28 PM #35:	paerarru posted... To be fair it was Morales's bad idea to run four times. You can't do that, you have to learn to do things democratically. You can't give the pigs any excuse to discredit you, that's like their whole game nowadays. This is the real meaning of staying vigilant. Actually, the Supreme Court said he could and so did the Bolivian people. But its really weird how youre conveniently leaving off where you are and not even addressing the brutal, anti-democratic conduct of the coup government. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:946971432] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>paerarru posted... </cite> <quote>To be fair it was Morales's bad idea to run four times. You can't do that, you have to learn to do things democratically. You can't give the pigs any excuse to discredit you, that's like their whole game nowadays. This is the real meaning of staying vigilant.</quote>Actually, the Supreme Court said he could and so did the Bolivian people. But its really weird how youre conveniently leaving off where you are and not even addressing the brutal, anti-democratic conduct of the coup government. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Broseph_Stalin 11/09/20 10:31:07 PM #36:	ElatedVenusaur posted... so did the Bolivian people. They literally voted against it in a referendum. It's why his popularity began to decline, he had to get the courts which were filled with his supporters to declare term limits a "human rights violation". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Bolivian_constitutional_referendum Seriously when did you become some Admiralesque troll? <cite>Broseph_Stalin posted [p:946972634] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>ElatedVenusaur posted... </cite> <quote>so did the Bolivian people.</quote> They literally voted against it in a referendum. It's why his popularity began to decline, he had to get the courts which were filled with his supporters to declare term limits a "human rights violation". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Bolivian_constitutional_referendum Seriously when did you become some Admiralesque troll? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 11/09/20 10:46:39 PM #37:	ElatedVenusaur posted... Yeah, the problem for Venezuela is that Chavez went all-in on oil(rather than investing in and expanding other sectors as a hedge against, say...the price of oil crashing) and also was fairly authoritarian. Seizing the means of production accomplishes nothing when the expertise of production is purged or exiled. Every glorious peoples revolution has had its "kulaks" - soon followed by famine or worse. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:946973207] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>ElatedVenusaur posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, the problem for Venezuela is that Chavez went all-in on oil(rather than investing in and expanding other sectors as a hedge against, say...the price of oil crashing) and also was fairly authoritarian.</quote>Seizing the means of production accomplishes nothing when the expertise of production is purged or exiled. Every glorious peoples revolution has had its "kulaks" - soon followed by famine or worse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
marc55 11/10/20 10:02:53 AM #38:	ButteryMales posted... Their courts deemed barring him was a human rights violation. Why should him running for a 4th term excuse helping theocratic racists steal power? "steal"? they only stoped him from doing something against constitution and the voters who told him "NO!" all this mess happened because evo didnt let anyone else from his party become a canditate until he was forced to ElatedVenusaur posted... Actually, the Supreme Court said he could and so did the Bolivian people. so you have the crazy teory that "no means yes" in a referendum thats the only explanation i have for you thinking the people agreed to the re election after "NO" won --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. <cite>marc55 posted [p:946986838] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>ButteryMales posted... </cite> <quote>Their courts deemed barring him was a human rights violation. Why should him running for a 4th term excuse helping theocratic racists steal power?</quote> "steal"? they only stoped him from doing something against constitution and the voters who told him "NO!" all this mess happened because evo didnt let anyone else from his party become a canditate until he was forced to <quote>ElatedVenusaur posted... </cite> Actually, the Supreme Court said he could and so did the Bolivian people.</quote> so you have the crazy teory that "no means yes" in a referendum thats the only explanation i have for you thinking the people agreed to the re election after "NO" won </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SocksForWokMAX5 11/10/20 10:13:53 AM #40:	Well gg Bolivia CE... <cite>SocksForWokMAX5 posted [p:946987169] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>Well gg Bolivia CE... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 11/10/20 10:14:54 AM #41:	Why do people who claim to be socialist always feel the need to defend strong men holding power? I feel like unless I am talking to anarcho-socialists things stop making sense way too quickly. How is the end result of socialists still being in power and not the same guy running the country indefinitely, which the people voted against, a bad thing? Why is it always, we need to ignore the people and have this one strong guy to do everything? It's just not a good look. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:946987202] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>Why do people who claim to be socialist always feel the need to defend strong men holding power? I feel like unless I am talking to anarcho-socialists things stop making sense way too quickly. How is the end result of socialists still being in power and not the same guy running the country indefinitely, which the people voted against, a bad thing? Why is it always, we need to ignore the people and have this one strong guy to do everything? It's just not a good look. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 11/10/20 11:57:35 AM #42:	ssjevot posted... Why do people who claim to be socialist always feel the need to defend strong men holding power? Why do you prefer deadly coups from theocratic racists? <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:946990555] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>ssjevot posted...</cite> <quote>Why do people who claim to be socialist always feel the need to defend strong men holding power?</quote>Why do you prefer deadly coups from theocratic racists?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paerarru 11/11/20 3:59:22 PM #43:	ElatedVenusaur posted... Actually, the Supreme Court said he could and so did the Bolivian people. But its really weird how youre conveniently leaving off where you are and not even addressing the brutal, anti-democratic conduct of the coup government. Actually, it doesn't matter what any court or any person or people say. He shouldn't have done it. It's not weird, I just don't care to make that point right now. I could have made it, but I chose not to. And you chose to assume that I had some "convenient" reason for me not to make it. ssjevot posted... Why do people who claim to be socialist always feel the need to defend strong men holding power? I feel like unless I am talking to anarcho-socialists things stop making sense way too quickly. How is the end result of socialists still being in power and not the same guy running the country indefinitely, which the people voted against, a bad thing? Why is it always, we need to ignore the people and have this one strong guy to do everything? It's just not a good look. Preach. Socialism is one thing. This crap on the other hand is what the capitalists love to point out as "the failures of socialism". Don't fucking do that. --- Hottest K-Pop Girl Group http://challonge.com/96st4ysk <cite>paerarru posted [p:947043467] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>ElatedVenusaur posted... </cite> <quote>Actually, the Supreme Court said he could and so did the Bolivian people. But its really weird how youre conveniently leaving off where you are and not even addressing the brutal, anti-democratic conduct of the coup government.</quote> Actually, it doesn't matter what any court or any person or people say. He shouldn't have done it. It's not weird, I just don't care to make that point right now. I could have made it, but I chose not to. And you chose to assume that I had some "convenient" reason for me not to make it. ssjevot posted... </cite> <quote>Why do people who claim to be socialist always feel the need to defend strong men holding power? I feel like unless I am talking to anarcho-socialists things stop making sense way too quickly. How is the end result of socialists still being in power and not the same guy running the country indefinitely, which the people voted against, a bad thing? Why is it always, we need to ignore the people and have this one strong guy to do everything? It's just not a good look.</quote> Preach. Socialism is one thing. This crap on the other hand is what the capitalists love to point out as "the failures of socialism". Don't fucking do that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paerarru 11/11/20 4:06:46 PM #44:	Questionmarktarius posted... Seizing the means of production accomplishes nothing when the expertise of production is purged or exiled. Every glorious peoples revolution has had its "kulaks" - soon followed by famine or worse. I mean it can, it just takes a lot more time, like many many decades. And that's if everything goes right. We have to understand that the economies of countries do not develop in a neat little bubble. It's not just "pick a model, let's see what happens". --- Hottest K-Pop Girl Group http://challonge.com/96st4ysk <cite>paerarru posted [p:947043775] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>Seizing the means of production accomplishes nothing when the expertise of production is purged or exiled. Every glorious peoples revolution has had its "kulaks" - soon followed by famine or worse.</quote> I mean it can, it just takes a lot more time, like many many decades. And that's if everything goes right. We have to understand that the economies of countries do not develop in a neat little bubble. It's not just "pick a model, let's see what happens". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ButteryMales 11/11/20 5:27:09 PM #45:	paerarru posted... ElatedVenusaur posted... But its really weird how youre conveniently leaving off where you are and not even addressing the brutal, anti-democratic conduct of the coup government. It's not weird, I just don't care about the people. Fuck off. <cite>ButteryMales posted [p:947047022] in Bolivia tu... [t:79095166]...</cite> <quote>paerarru posted...</cite><quote>ElatedVenusaur posted...</cite><quote>But its really weird how youre conveniently leaving off where you are and not even addressing the brutal, anti-democratic conduct of the coup government.</quote>It's not weird, I just don't care about the people.</quote>Fuck off.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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