Current Events > Is Donald Trump the worst POTUS ever?

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Rikiaz
11/07/20 12:25:03 AM
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Before this election, I'd say no. Definitely bottom 5 but not quite the worst. However after his repeated attempts to constantly undermine the democracy of the United States, yeah worst president.

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_TrustOurAces_
11/07/20 12:26:12 AM
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Who the fuck is talking shit about John Adams? Dude fought tooth and nail to free the slaves in the constitution and was known to receive verbal abuse because of his alleged support of gay rights.

Don't talk shit about John Adams.
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Payzmaykr
11/07/20 12:26:46 AM
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Its also worth noting that several presidents were actual slave owners and many were very aggressive in lobbying to keep slavery legal in the US.
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Tyranthraxus
11/07/20 12:28:16 AM
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Payzmaykr posted...
Its also worth noting that several presidents were actual slave owners and many were very aggressive in lobbying to keep slavery legal in the US.
That ultimately just makes them terrible people and not terrible presidents.

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ForsakenHermit
11/07/20 12:28:21 AM
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Payzmaykr posted...
Its also worth noting that several presidents were actual slave owners and many were very aggressive in lobbying to keep slavery legal in the US.
The problem is Trump is so awful that if you put him in any of the 43 presidents' place he would have done worse.

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Questionmarktarius
11/07/20 12:31:32 AM
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_TrustOurAces_ posted...
Dude fought tooth and nail to free the slaves in the constitution and was known to receive verbal abuse because of his alleged support of gay rights.
I'm not going to argue that. John Adams was one of the few founders who didn't have slaves.
He still got stupendously close to tyranny while president.

America is just weird that way. It's greatest champion of liberty there ever was, Thomas Jefferson, regularly raped his slaves.
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Cornhuskers
11/07/20 12:32:40 AM
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6 of you are going to Hell with Hitler and Trump.
#MAGAt
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St0rmFury
11/07/20 12:34:00 AM
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The one who okay'd Japanese-American internment camps.
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Payzmaykr
11/07/20 12:36:19 AM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
The problem is Trump is so awful that if you put him in any of the 43 presidents' place he would have done worse.
Thats abstract and unprovable. The fact is that he didnt lobby for slavery and they did. He did try to wall out an entire country, but I dont think thats on the same level of slavery.

He was ineffective and his inaction during the pandemic cost lives, although nowhere as many lives as Bushs wars.
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_TrustOurAces_
11/07/20 12:37:21 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...

I'm not going to argue that. John Adams was one of the few founders who didn't have slaves.
He still got stupendously close to tyranny while president.

America is just weird that way. It's greatest champion of liberty there ever was, Thomas Jefferson, regularly raped his slaves.


Yeah history rewrote Jefferson to be a "champion of liberty". Dude was as narcissistic and tyrannical as it got; now just add the slave owning and raping on top of that.
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Questionmarktarius
11/07/20 12:40:00 AM
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_TrustOurAces_ posted...
Yeah history rewrote Jefferson to be a "champion of liberty". Dude was as narcissistic and tyrannical as it got; now just add the slave owning and raping on top of that.
America is pretty fucked up, and always has been.
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Lorenzo_2003
11/07/20 12:40:28 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Trump has taken generally unified nation and set it against itself where such conflict didn't exist prior.

I find that difficult to believe. There has always been a divide between groups, whether it was by race, sex or the popular rich vs poor. I at least dont remember any recent president unifying these groups.

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ForsakenHermit
11/07/20 12:41:14 AM
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Payzmaykr posted...
Thats abstract and unprovable. The fact is that he didnt lobby for slavery and they did. He did try to wall out an entire country, but I dont think thats on the same level of slavery.
You can't seriously expect anyone to put "didn't lobby for slavery" in Trump's + column. Pro slavery politics is a permanently extinct viewpoint.

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ModLogic
11/07/20 12:42:54 AM
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id say the one that decides to drop 2 nukes on japan despite advice from experts because of his hatred for minorities is the worst one

basically commited genocide but had a good pr team to cover up

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Cornhuskers
11/07/20 12:43:32 AM
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GOOD topic.
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Tyranthraxus
11/07/20 12:47:24 AM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
I find that difficult to believe. There has always been a divide between groups, whether it was by race, sex or the popular rich vs poor. I at least dont remember any recent president unifying these groups.

We had disagreements back then but they were just normal fucking disagreements.

https://youtu.be/JIjenjANqAk

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008Zulu
11/07/20 12:48:27 AM
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I don't think any other President has gone full fascist when their time was up.

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