Current Events > Beast's Castle best KH 2 world?

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Even its soundtrack is unique, it's not "under the sea" repeated ad nauseam like little mermaid world or "bibity bopity boo" like cinderella world.
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Nah tron world is best KH2 world

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It is really good, and Waltz of the Damned is one of the best level themes. Heck yea

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Godnorgosh posted...

That one's pretty good, but is it really better than Halloween Town and Christmas Town combined?

Halloween Town literally "this is halloween" on repeat forever...

Don't get me wrong I love it, and even christmas town is aight. But facts are facts
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Yeah, Beast's Castle and Hollow Bastion are the only worlds in KH2 I think are really good.

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off the top of my head the only worlds in KH2 I like are Twilight Town and The World That Never was. Though Beast's Castle is also decent.
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Twilight Town, Land of the Dragons, Pride Lands and Timeless River are the standouts for me, but Beast Castle's alright.

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Timeless River exists though.

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Oh yeah, Timeless River. Not a great world, but its aesthetics more than makes up for its level design shortcomings.
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I really didn't like the boss in Beast's castle though. I remember feeling like there were attacks that were unavoidable, then Mickey came in and saved the day. I might have just been bad though.

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Pridelands and Timeless River imo

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scar the 1 posted...

I really didn't like the boss in Beast's castle though. I remember feeling like there were attacks that were unavoidable, then Mickey came in and saved the day. I might have just been bad though.

That's when you Reflect, my friend

TheSavageDragon posted...

That's when you Reflect, my friend

Oh, were there reflectable attacks that I missed? Makes sense. This was so long ago though, that I just vaguely remember some big sweeping beam attack that I couldn't avoid. I probably didn't even think about reflecting.

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TWTNW but i wish it was bigger. that or TLT

scar the 1 posted...

Oh, were there reflectable attacks that I missed? Makes sense. This was so long ago though, that I just vaguely remember some big sweeping beam attack that I couldn't avoid. I probably didn't even think about reflecting.

If we're talking about the Xaldin fight, yeah, use can power thru most attacks with just Reflect. But I think his big sweeping laser can just be dashed through with the right timing.

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i assumed he meant he Ifrit-looking fucker you fight in the ball room.
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In that case, I don't think you even had reflect yet, did you? That's like the first Disney world in the game.

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No, I definitely meant Xaldin. I remember it was a spear guy (I think spears? Like flying around him?) and he was from the anime organization

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Fair enough.
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Probably. My favorite worlds also tend to be my favorite movies

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scar the 1 posted...

I think spears? Like flying around him?

Yeah, he has lances that he controls with wind.

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Strider102 posted...

Timeless River exists though.

this theme be hittin doe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf1X5fZkdkQ&list=PLQYNY3c-e1SnjI511v3LpMvokmhRtq_HF&index=34

changed my mind
Timeless River is the best

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scar the 1 posted...

I really didn't like the boss in Beast's castle though. I remember feeling like there were attacks that were unavoidable, then Mickey came in and saved the day. I might have just been bad though.

To this day, I have no idea how you were supposed to fight him.

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dave_is_slick posted...

To this day, I have no idea how you were supposed to fight him.

I never could figure out the big laser, but I was generally able to survive because it didn't do much damage, even on proud. So I'd just heal constantly and play it safe when he's doing everything except the lasers.

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PatrickMahomes posted...

I never could figure out the big laser, but I was generally able to survive because it didn't do much damage, even on proud. So I'd just heal constantly and play it safe when he's doing everything except the lasers.

I think you can run into the corner to avoid it. Like, you have to keep running into the corner even when youre up against the wall. Im not 100% sure though. I havent played KH2 in a few years.

I know that the quick slide ability you get from Wisdom form helps a lot in that fight

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You're just supposed to dash through the laser, or use Reflect on it. And then use the Learn reaction whenever he got close to stack counterattacks.

He's definitely one of the hardest bosses, but it really just comes down to those two things.

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Kh 2 final mix pretty much forced you to actually learn boss patterns and learn to block/counterattack/etc. Reflect in particular is a godsend. You could even use it in place of reaction commands for the boss that fires shots at you
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saspa posted...

Kh 2 final mix pretty much forced you to actually learn boss patterns and learn to block/counterattack/etc

Yeah it had pretty good battle design.

I don't think I had to learn any enemies movements or tells to plow through KH3, even on Proud. I never got the DLC, and I'm sure the data battles require effort and learning patterns, but I feel like KH2 just had more solid gameplay all around even from the jump -- even if it was missing stuff in its vanilla version like Dodge Roll to iron some small bumps out.

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Easy mode for Xaldin's laser is just summon Stitch. He'll block p much everything, and when his blocking and your Reflecting don't do the job, just Cure and Stitch will refill your MP after a few seconds. As long as you keep attacking, the summon gauge will keep refilling and Stitch will never leave.

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Did KH2 Final Mix change anything about the bosses from the main game, or are you referring specifically to the additions, most of which are end and post game when you say it forced you to learn boss patterns?
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slmcknett posted...

Yeah it had pretty good battle design.

I don't think I had to learn any enemies movements or tells to plow through KH3, even on Proud. I never got the DLC, and I'm sure the data battles require effort and learning patterns, but I feel like KH2 just had more solid gameplay all around even from the jump -- even if it was missing stuff in its vanilla version like Dodge Roll to iron some small bumps out.

Yeah there's a huge difference between vanilla KH 2 and final mix. The stuff they added definitely trumps the added stuff in KH 1 final mix.
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DeadBankerDream posted...

Did KH2 Final Mix change anything about the bosses from the main game, or are you referring specifically to the additions, most of which are end and post game when you say it forced you to learn boss patterns?

Mostly the data fights.

If anyone's interested, this guy did a stream where he explained the strategy for defeating each of them at level 1. He's how I managed to beat them.
https://youtu.be/3M_lcWqm8HE?t=80

I will say, though, that Xaldin still felt like bullshit. I could feel myself improving every time I fought the other bosses, but Xaldin was just an absolute ass pimple and I beat it out of sheer luck.

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davidg4l posted...

Twilight Town, Land of the Dragons, Pride Lands and Timeless River are the standouts for me, but Beast Castle's alright.

Wait Pride Lands? You liked cub simba mechanics?

I've also never seen anyone mention twilight town as a favorite before, everyone seems to hate it because of the roxas prologue and such (I'm not one of them, but just saying)
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Beasts Castle is the only good world in KH2.

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I wouldn't go that far, I was actually a fan of the world that never was and never will be. But it's like, just 2 rooms. They could have really made it a whole level
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I mean, let's be honest, most of the worlds were about two rooms. Level design is something that took a giant backseat after the first game.

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For Xaldin, all you need to do is guard an attack and the rest falls into place.
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KH2 has really bad levels generally. It's why I'm not that aboard on the whole consensus that it's easily better than one. Sure KH2's levels are mostly there to fascilitate its great combat, but something is lost over the deeper structure's of KH1 that are actually enjoyable to traverse because of their designs themselves.
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pegusus123456 posted...

I mean, let's be honest, most of the worlds were about two rooms. Level design is something that took a giant backseat after the first game.

That's true. I thought I was fine with the removal of KH 1's clunky platforming and KH 2's straight forward linear levels that just look pretty.

I still can't decide if I like the extra dungeon's platforming in Final Mix. On the one hand it's pretty cool to actually have a place to utilize all the drive form's abilities like double jump and gliding. On the other hand there was some frustration with trying to glide through a small opening and then double jumping to get to the other side.
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saspa posted...

On the other hand there was some frustration with trying to glide through a small opening and then double jumping to get to the other side.

Even now it takes me like 10 tries to get through there. It's never on the first try. And then after all of that platforming, a long-ass corridor of strong Nobody fights. All done without a single save. Awesome. Awesome to the max.

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King Rial posted...

Even now it takes me like 10 tries to get through there. It's never on the first try. And then after all of that platforming, a long-ass corridor of strong Nobody fights. All done without a single save. Awesome. Awesome to the max.

I played 2.5 at least twice. First time ps3, second time ps4. Encountering those nobody fights and dying the first time on ps3... the challenge and fear I felt was unmatched in a kh game.

Definitely felt awesome to go back on ps4 and be fully prepared for what was in store for me.
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