Current Events > Do you think GWB was worse than Trump?

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One_Day_Remains
11/02/20 8:15:44 PM
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Someone on another platform expressed huge disagreement when I said Trump was on a different level from Bush, McCain and Romney

What do you think?
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SandTarpit
11/02/20 8:19:36 PM
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Bush is on a different level from Trump, really. You had it backwards.

Economic collapse, No Child Left Behind, 2 Wars on credit cards, 9/11 attacks, Gas was over $3.50/gallon in 2007,
Hurricane Katrina

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Zikten
11/02/20 8:22:35 PM
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no. Trump is the worst president in the history of America. Bush sucked but he at least acted like a US president.
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SaltyWet
11/02/20 8:23:23 PM
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I'd rather hang out with GWB than Trump.

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SandTarpit
11/02/20 8:24:06 PM
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Zikten posted...
no. Trump is the worst president in the history of America. Bush sucked but he at least acted like a US president.
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Solar_Crimson
11/02/20 8:25:06 PM
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I can't imagine how Trump would have handled 9/11 or Hurricane Katrina.

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au_gold
11/02/20 8:25:32 PM
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No, Trump is worse.

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SandTarpit
11/02/20 8:27:07 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
I can't imagine how Trump would have handled 9/11 or Hurricane Katrina.


Quite. Literally. Could not have. Done a worse job than Bush on it.

Bush: Invaded a random country not a part of 9/11
Bush: Had a random guy heading FEMA, who got fired 7 days later

Trump could do nothing and could do a better job than Bush did. That's the point: Bush is hilariously bad.

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whitelytning
11/02/20 8:27:26 PM
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Zikten posted...
no. Trump is the worst president in the history of America. Bush sucked but he at least acted like a US president.

This.

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SandTarpit
11/02/20 8:28:09 PM
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I'm genuinely laughing out loud that there are people in here coming in and backing up George W. Bush's "Presidential-ness".


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iPhone_7
11/02/20 8:29:11 PM
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Before the pandemic happened I would have said that Bush was still worse.

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SandTarpit
11/02/20 8:29:55 PM
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SandTarpit posted...
I'm genuinely laughing out loud that there are people in here coming in and backing up George W. Bush's "Presidential-ness".



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Zikten
11/02/20 8:40:53 PM
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Bush at least wasn't trying to destroy democracy. Donald Trump is the biggest threat to this nation we have ever faced. Bush was a jackass and he did some bad stuff. but he wasn't trying to make himself into a dictator
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Taharqa_
11/02/20 8:46:02 PM
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Bush was an idiot, but he didn't enjoy the cruelty. Trump is also an idiot but he also revels in cruelty. If he gets reelected I think we'll fall closer to fascism, I didn't feel that way with Bush. This democracy is on the ropes right now.

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ZeldaMutant
11/02/20 8:48:56 PM
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In terms of Americans killed, Trump is worse. A 6 digit figure dead due to his deliberate mishandling of the pandemic.

In global terms, Bush is worse. The Iraq war has a bodycount of around half a million civilians, and caused ISIS. Trump has yet to match that. Yet.

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Vicious_Dios
11/02/20 8:51:35 PM
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Taharqa_ posted...
Bush was an idiot, but he didn't enjoy the cruelty. Trump is also an idiot but he also revels in cruelty. If he gets reelected I think we'll fall closer to fascism, I didn't feel that way with Bush. This democracy is on the ropes right now.

Imagine believing this.

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Irony
11/02/20 8:52:32 PM
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Trump is a million times worse

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Politics
11/02/20 8:53:48 PM
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Trump was a greater threat to American Democracy

W. was a greater threat to international stability

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Taharqa_
11/02/20 8:54:49 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
Imagine believing this.

I said what I said.

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whitelytning
11/02/20 8:55:22 PM
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Trump is a fascist that actively tries to split the nation. The primary purpose of government is to protect it's citizens. Trump has failed to do that in a way no other US president has come close. He should be in jail for criminal negligence.

He is the worst president by far just for how he has handled covid. You don't even have to talk about his impeachment or any of the other terrible things he has done.


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Iodine
11/02/20 8:57:03 PM
#21:


Yes.

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pegusus123456
11/02/20 8:57:11 PM
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I give Bush a little benefit of the doubt because he did actually have to deal with some shit.

As someone else said, 9/11 or Katrina happening during Trump would have been a disaster that absolutely eclipsed what Bush did.

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darklink1017
11/02/20 8:57:58 PM
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Irony posted...
Trump is a million times worse

Trump didn't send us overseas to fight a senseless war like Bush Jr.

Housing market and economy did amazing under Trump pre-covid, and it is recovering at a rapid pace.

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monkmith
11/02/20 8:58:20 PM
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well, trump's killed more americans with his decisions then bush ever did. so i think i'm gonna give the title to trump.

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whitelytning
11/02/20 9:00:04 PM
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darklink1017 posted...
Trump didn't send us overseas to fight a senseless war like Bush Jr.

Housing market and economy did amazing under Trump pre-covid, and it is recovering at a rapid pace.

He didn't have to. He just pretended a virus didn't exist that has now killed 200k Americans.

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Shadow Don
11/02/20 9:02:55 PM
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It's honestly terrifying trying to imagine a world in which Trump is president on the morning of 9/11. I imagine worst case scenario there is a plausible chance of the use of nuclear weapons on the middle east and at a minimum concentration camps for Muslim Americans.

And Bush probably would have handled the coronavirus pandemic significantly better than Trump.

Trump is significantly worse than Bush.

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SandTarpit
11/02/20 9:05:09 PM
#27:


Bush at least wasn't trying to destroy democracy.

Bahaha...You young posters are great. "This is the first time that the GOP has ever tried to steal an election! Right now! In 2020!"

Bush's brother stole Florida in 2000
And then in 2004, they used the Diebold voter machines and stole Ohio.

The primary purpose of government is to protect it's citizens

Katrina says hi. The entire collapse of the economic system says hi. Two wars say hi.

<i>Imagine believing this.</i>

I know, right?

Shadow Don posted...
It's honestly terrifying trying to imagine a world in which Trump is president on the morning of 9/11. I imagine worst case scenario there is a plausible chance of the use of nuclear weapons on the middle east and at a minimum concentration camps for Muslim Americans.

And Bush probably would have handled the coronavirus pandemic significantly better than Trump.

Trump is significantly worse than Bush.

Hell, Trump could have even gone a step further and invaded some random country just because...

Oh wait...that's what Bush did. Bush is worse.

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COVxy
11/02/20 9:07:00 PM
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The Trump admin is the most corrupt admin the US has ever seen.

I think trying to compare admins on apples and oranges is stupid and we should just state things as they are.

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InhumaneRaider
11/02/20 9:07:05 PM
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Yes. People need to stop holding Bush up on a pedestal as a way to cast negativity on Trump. Bush was bad in his own right.

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TommyG663513
11/02/20 9:08:36 PM
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Bush overall got dealt a really bad hand in a lot of ways, but he still handled the vast majority of it like a complete moron.

Trump mostly had a bunch of softballs tossed at him and made it all as chaotic as possible. Even covid was kind of a softball and he basically did the wrong thing at every possible moment.

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sktgamer_13dude
11/02/20 9:13:15 PM
#31:


By saying Trump is worse than Bush, youre not saying Bush was good.

It just means that Trump somehow was worse than Bush.
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ImmatureContent
11/02/20 9:17:27 PM
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Trump is the worst president in history. He is incompetent, divisive, corrupt, stupid, and pretty much pure evil. His politics are shit, too, but that is more of a subjective thing.

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darklink1017
11/02/20 9:24:28 PM
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ImmatureContent posted...
He is incompetent, divisive, corrupt, stupid, and pretty much pure evil.

just like you

MAGA

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One_Day_Remains
11/02/20 9:26:41 PM
#34:


darklink1017 posted...


just like you

MAGA


You unironically being a Trump supporter makes me regret defending you in your "called the cops on the neighbors for loud music" topic.
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NinjaWarrior455
11/02/20 9:27:33 PM
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Trump has caused a ton of damage in his four years but the Bush legacy is fucking devastating and is still in effect to this day. The next five or ten years will really paint how bad the Trump presidency truly is for our future.

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southcoast09
11/02/20 9:28:42 PM
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Bush started two wars that got countless soldiers and civilians killed, and the families broken up over it. Hes the worst president in all of our lives and hopefully will be the worst that we ever have.

The only people who think Trump is worse are making a 100% emotional statement and are basically still mad that he made them look bad when he won. He sat on his ass and played golf for four years. He mishandled the virus, but that isnt even like 1% of the damage that Bush did to us.
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RchHomieQuanChi
11/02/20 9:29:45 PM
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Bush was worthy of at least some level of respect as a fellow human being.

Trump is fucking garbage.

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Will_VIIII
11/02/20 9:31:00 PM
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Prior to Covid-19 I maintained that Trump was marginally better than GWB.

Lancet surveys estimate 600-650k civilian deaths over the course of the Iraw war and aftermath:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancet_surveys_of_Iraq_War_casualties

In 8 months we've already surpassed 230k deaths due to Trump's gross mishandling of the pandemic.

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ChocoboMogALT
11/02/20 9:31:44 PM
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darklink1017 posted...
Housing market and economy did amazing under Trump pre-covid, and it is recovering at a rapid pace.
Trump ran on and has tried to roll back Dodd-Frank. Saying the housing market and ecomony were good under Trump is like saying the same of Bush, they're sitting at the peak of a roller coaster and taking off the wheels.

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11/02/20 9:32:29 PM
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Taharqa_
11/02/20 9:34:41 PM
#41:


southcoast09 posted...
Bush started two wars that got countless soldiers and civilians killed, and the families broken up over it. Hes the worst president in all of our lives and hopefully will be the worst that we ever have.

The only people who think Trump is worse are making a 100% emotional statement and are basically still mad that he made them look bad when he won. He sat on his ass and played golf for four years. He mishandled the virus, but that isnt even like 1% of the damage that Bush did to us.

Trump was given a playbook on how to handle a pandemic by the previous administration and not only did they toss it out, Trump has actively downplayed COVID-19 and says we're turning the corner and hardly anyone is getting infected. We are approaching a quarter of a million people dead in 8 months.

That's just COVID-19, I didn't even get into the other shit. It will take years to unpack and undo the fuckery and damage that Trump has done to this country.

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RchHomieQuanChi
11/02/20 9:37:54 PM
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Actually this is the best way to put it.

Bush was a bad president, Trump is bordering on full-on fascism. Even during the Bush years, there was never this overwhelming feeling of the President can literally do whatever the fuck he wants with no consequences.

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DarthAragorn
11/02/20 9:38:08 PM
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Bush was not good.

Trump is still worse.
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InhumaneRaider
11/02/20 9:41:48 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Bush was worthy of at least some level of respect as a fellow human being.

Trump is fucking garbage.
Fuck no, he isn't. He was jingoistic warhawk who violated both the U.S constitution and the Geneva Conventions and led us into economic downturn. Fuck him.

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RchHomieQuanChi
11/02/20 9:43:18 PM
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InhumaneRaider posted...
Fuck no, he isn't. He was jingoistic warhawk who violated both the U.S constitution and the Geneva Conventions and led us into economic downturn. Fuck him.

I'm referring more to their basic interactions with Americans.

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Corrupt_Power
11/02/20 9:45:53 PM
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The conflation of a president and their administration, while a bit pedantic, is I think why there's so much disagreement here.

Bush's administration is on par with Trump, both the man and the administration. Bush himself was just an unlucky moron the administration used as a figurehead and scapegoat for all the shit they pulled. Trump is in on and probably largely orchestrating the shit his administration is doing. Therefore, Trump is worse.
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Cornhuskers
11/02/20 9:46:56 PM
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GWB did destroy the heart of radical Mujahideen terrorism, so maybe not so bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-WN0T745fQ
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I am hopeful the rise of such an evil will eventually collapse upon itself.
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InhumaneRaider
11/02/20 9:46:59 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
I'm referring more to their basic interactions with Americans.
His interactions with Americans characterizes him as a deceptive, inept, greedy, warmongering piece of shit.

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darklink1017
11/02/20 9:58:04 PM
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One_Day_Remains posted...
You unironically being a Trump supporter makes me regret defending you in your "called the cops on the neighbors for loud music" topic.

I'm voting for trump because I support the police

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William_Rage
11/02/20 10:03:25 PM
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Everyone always thinks that the current president is the worst and that will never, ever fucking change.
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