Current Events > The UK is about to go on full lockdown again. For a month, I think.

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Almost all businesses shut down, people barely allowed out of their houses, and so on.

I think it's a very good idea, though. The current death rate is about 300 people a day, and the worst case scenario report suggests that without the lockdown, it will soon be at 4000 deaths a lot, which is a LOT.

Thoughts?


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I sure hope the EPL isn't affected

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What is the EPL?

This is going to be something stupid, right?


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MeIon Bread posted...

What is the EPL?

This is going to be something stupid, right?

European Premier League, basically a big deal in soccer.
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What's Ben Shaprio's opinion on the matter

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It's just under a month

I think it's a bad idea

Dont get me wrong, it's a good idea in a vacuum

But the UK is full of crazy people. Half the population doesn't even accept Covid is real

The rules are ignored. Large groups walk the streets unmasked drunkenly , no one abides social distancing and household intermingled all the time

Any benefit to a lockdown is hindered by the people who ignore it and then negated the second the lockdown is over when they all pour out together

Now it's too late, The UK botched the initial response and the public is now deaf to the pandemic

You can't smash all the china and then tell the children to be careful


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It's just England for the full 4 week lockdown so far. We're sticking with the tier system in Scotland (Wales has a "firebreak" and I think NI has something similar), but that could always change.

Either way, it's a bastard.

MeIon Bread posted...

What is the EPL?

This is going to be something stupid, right?

English Premier League our top football league.

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spikethedevil posted...

English Premier League our top football league.

Which consists of 69.2% foreigners for the record

' English' league indeed.

The whole thing is a racket

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Why doesn't UK try banning smoking in public place, instead of going to extreme and going full lock down.
Why is it that no place mentions about smoking and the possibility that it can spread to other people the virus.

Plus smoking weakens the immune system, so it make it easier to catch any illness including the virus. If someone has the virus and their immune system are weak and their lungs are weak, then the virus would be that much more dangerous.

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Hardly full lockdown. Schools and colleges stay open. Public transport's still running and you can travel to work if you can't work from home. Non-essential retail and the hospitality sector are the businesses hit hardest.

My thoughts? The virus doesn't spread by magic. It spreads because of people who are stupid, selfish, childish, irresponsible fuckwits and who refuse to obey simple rules that, if observed, would bring an end to this crisis much sooner. Pub owners crying about closures and lost profits? It's because too many of your customers are fucking braindead idiots who think they can continue to behave as if everything was business as usual, so blame them.

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Firewerx posted...

Hardly full lockdown. Schools and colleges stay open. Public transport's still running and you can travel to work if you can't work from home. Non-essential retail and the hospitality sector are the businesses hit hardest.

My thoughts? The virus doesn't spread by magic. It spreads because people are stupid, selfish, irresponsible fuckwits who throw kiddie tantrums and refuse to obey simple rules that, if observed, would bring an end to this crisis much sooner. Pub owners crying about closures and lost profits? It's because too many of your pisshead customers are fucking idiots who think they can continue to behave as if everything was business as usual, so blame them.

Its true. Too many business owners put profit before anything else and customers were selfish. People though that just because they didnt believe it that they couldnt spread it. Here we are now.

To every stupid, crybaby prick who snivels and whines about how being made to wear a mask in a supermarket is an affront to their fundamental human rights, tell me this: Do you expect a surgeon to wear a mask when he's operating on you? If so, why? Yeah, come back to me if you ever manage to work out the answer to that one, genius.

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I doubt it will only last a month, especially with schools and unis staying open.

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IloveJesus posted...

I doubt it will only last a month, especially with schools and unis staying open.

I don't know, I can see Johnson lifting the autumn lockdown prematurely because he doesn't want to go down in history as "the PM who banned Christmas". We're supposed to be more scared of "making the kiddies cry" than we are of death.

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Firewerx posted...

I don't know, I can see Johnson lifting the autumn lockdown prematurely because he doesn't want to go down in history as "the PM who banned Christmas". We're supposed to be more scared of "making the kiddies cry" than we are of death.

Anyone with kids will tell you that after listening to them cry long enough you begin to pray for death.

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Gamerguymass posted...

Anyone with kids will tell you that after listening to them cry long enough you begin to pray for death.

This makes sense, but we shouldnt put the entire nation at risk because parents are tired of listening to their kids. My city did the exact same thing, though: parents stayed inside while they let their kids run wild in the streets during the mandatory quarantine. Now people wonder why we havent beaten it.

Gamerguymass posted...

Anyone with kids will tell you that after listening to them cry long enough you begin to pray for death.

I believe that sufficiently long exposure can also trigger bouts of sub-psychotic rage...

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Firewerx posted...

My thoughts? The virus doesn't spread by magic. It spreads because of people who are stupid, selfish, childish, irresponsible fuckwits and who refuse to obey simple rules that, if observed, would bring an end to this crisis much sooner. P

and all these people will obey the lockdown and then embrace the rules after it

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mattymad posted...

Oh look, there he is, lying about the UK again.

He's absolutely right this time.

Firewerx posted...

To every stupid, crybaby prick who snivels and whines about how being made to wear a mask in a supermarket is an affront to their fundamental human rights, tell me this: Do you expect a surgeon to wear a mask when he's operating on you? If so, why? Yeah, come back to me if you ever manage to work out the answer to that one, genius.

erm...

Everyone should wear a mask

thats a terrible analogy tho

Surgeons are literally ripping your body open and minimal exposure to germs is paramount for infection protection

A guy who denies covid exists Is not going to be swayed by " well if you had open heart surgery I bet you'd want the surgeon to scrub up!:

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Its a good idea to minimize deaths in the short term, if nothing changes afterwards though its just going to be an endless cycle.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

and all these people will obey the lockdown and then embrace the rules after it

Here's the fundamental problem the government has got: it can do all the hectoring and finger-wagging it likes; but in the end, in the absence of a real fear of the consequences, it has to rely upon the goodwill and commonsense of the great British public to do the right thing.

In other words: Oh, dear God.

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UnfairRepresent posted...

thats a terrible analogy tho

It isn't. No one (although never say no one) would argue that surgeons' human rights are being compromised because it's compulsory for them to wear a mask during a surgical procedure. It's to protect patients from the risk of infection. And being made to wear a mask in an enclosed public space like a supermarket is to protect others (as well as ourselves) against the risk of infection. In the middle of a pandemic, that's a perfectly reasonable precaution to insist upon. You (that's a generic "you", by the way) aren't being systematically oppressed just because you're being told to wear a mask under certain conditions, any more than your surgeon is.

Covid denialists are probably beyond being reasonable, but that's no excuse not to shove their dumb shit back down their throats.

If I'm a tad sensitive about this, it's because my wife has to work with the great British public and she ticks two boxes that place her in the "vulnerable" category and make it extremely dangerous for her to catch Covid. It pisses me off to no end when total fuckwits risk exposing her to a life-threatening illness through their own selfishness, laziness and stupidity and insist they've got a right do it, just because they don't want make even minor modifications to their own behaviour under certain circumstances. Utter scum.

"If I get it, I'll probably be OK. So why should I care?" Because it's not just about you, you dumb, shit-for-brains fuck. If you catch it, you can spread it.

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Firewerx posted...

Here's the fundamental problem the government has got: it can do all the hectoring and finger-wagging it likes; but in the end, in the absence of a real fear of the consequences, it has to rely upon the goodwill and commonsense of the great British public to do the right thing.

In other words: Oh, dear God.

indeed

Which is why I think the UK already lost

The population rejected covid and chooses beers over preventing fatalities

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Firewerx posted...

I don't know, I can see Johnson lifting the autumn lockdown prematurely because he doesn't want to go down in history as "the PM who banned Christmas". We're supposed to be more scared of "making the kiddies cry" than we are of death.

That's why yesterday Boris claimed we were going into lockdown until the 2and of December, but sent Gove out on telly this morning to clarify that it's actually a review date and not necessarily the end of the lockdown. He'll distance himself from as much shit as he can.

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I guess I'm not going to Europe anytime soon. Good job UK you just lost a tourist.
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Well makes Trump look good now.

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Duncanwii posted...

I guess I'm not going to Europe anytime soon. Good job UK you just lost a tourist.

To be fair, we would prefer you not to come.

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Duncanwii posted...

I guess I'm not going to Europe anytime soon. Good job UK you just lost a tourist.

You're adorable, Dunc.

IloveJesus posted...

To be fair, we would prefer you not to come.

they don't want any americans. donald trump didn't help things.
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its not a bad idea .. the timing is bad .. it should have been done earlier

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