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CommunismFTW
10/29/20 2:04:31 PM
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I rolled a meta SL80 one for PvE and mid-late game invasions / co-op and I gotta say I'm doing way less damage overall than when I was a quality build or even just a str/dex focus. Lightning bolt spell does like... 46 damage, like wooden arrows, and you can't even use lightning blade on the two good straight swords for faith (Blessed Lothric or the Sunlight Sword)

Going to wrap up this playthrough because I'm almost done but I'm definitely not making this mistake again next time I play. Darkmoon/Darkblade invader sounds like a fun time for the next run.

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VonOrdelia
10/29/20 2:05:26 PM
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Think they've been trash since launch

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SSJKirby
10/29/20 2:06:39 PM
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Miracle Faith builds in the dark souls 3 Cinders mod however is hella rad

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CommunismFTW
10/29/20 2:07:16 PM
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VonOrdelia posted...
Think they've been trash since launch

Yeah I knew that going in but I didn't realize just how bad it is. I've done a lot of experimentation, miracle and weapon combos, and tests. The conclusion? Faith sucks. You shouldn't even bother putting a single level into it unless you want to bypass the one or two faith requirements for certain weapons.

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Rikiaz
10/29/20 2:09:37 PM
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Faith builds in DS3 are amazing. You really need to get to 60 Faith though so running a low level invasion faith character is kinda a bad choice.

SSJKirby posted...
Miracle Faith builds in the dark souls 3 Cinders mod however is hella rad
Hell yeah they are. Intelligence builds too. And Hexes. Cinders is just amazing all around. Only problem I have with it are how drastically different different versions can be coupled with how fast the author updates it. But regardless, its an amazing mod on any given version.

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UnholyMudcrab
10/29/20 2:11:05 PM
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Miracles are alright as a supplement to other caster builds, but that's about it until the very end game when you finally can get some decent offensive miracles.

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Mormaurd
10/29/20 2:19:53 PM
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Magic in general felt bad in ds3 for pve. Most fun I got out of it (aside from the invisible/rapport soul farming) was leveling faith and strength and using a blessed dragonslayers axe for the bonus lightning damage and hp regen.

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UnholyMudcrab
10/29/20 2:24:23 PM
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Mormaurd posted...
Magic in general felt bad in ds3 for pve. Most fun I got out of it (aside from the invisible/rapport soul farming) was leveling faith and strength and using a blessed dragonslayers axe for the bonus lightning damage and hp regen.
I had fun playing as a Sunbro sorcerer who helped out with bosses, but most of the PVE stuff stopped being a whole lot of fun past Pontiff or so.

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nothanks1
10/29/20 2:25:40 PM
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Faith in DS3 is great.
It lets you heal.
While you do actual good damage with fireball to the face
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Ving_Rhames
10/29/20 2:28:51 PM
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Probly cuz of Lightning Spear shenanigans from DS2

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Rikiaz
10/29/20 2:28:53 PM
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Mormaurd posted...
Magic in general felt bad in ds3 for pve. Most fun I got out of it (aside from the invisible/rapport soul farming) was leveling faith and strength and using a blessed dragonslayers axe for the bonus lightning damage and hp regen.
I love magic in DS3. 60 Int 40 Fth is my main vanilla build and it's always felt super good in my opinion.

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Rikiaz
10/29/20 2:29:26 PM
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nothanks1 posted...
Faith in DS3 is great.
It lets you heal.
While you do actual good damage with fireball to the face
And Bleed which is OP on most bosses in the second half and the DLCs.

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BignutzisBack
10/29/20 2:30:34 PM
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I will never understand how someone could prefer magic users in souls games yet still claim to respect women

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Mormaurd
10/29/20 2:31:09 PM
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Bleed scales with luck, not faith though.


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nothanks1
10/29/20 2:32:10 PM
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Mormaurd posted...
Bleed scales with luck, not faith though.


Gnaw/Dorhy's Gnawing are both miracles and cause bleed buildup
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CapnMuffin
10/29/20 2:32:22 PM
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Faith is fine but it needs heavy investment. And they seem to work best, offensively, as a surprise attack. When they dont know youre a faith build, you got em.

The other issue is all the good stuff is late game. The early game as a faith build is a struggle.

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Rikiaz
10/29/20 2:32:26 PM
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Mormaurd posted...
Bleed scales with luck, not faith though.
I mean the Gnawing spells. They scale with Faith.

BignutzisBack posted...
I will never understand how someone could prefer magic users in souls games yet still claim to respect women
I don't understand how these two are linked at all.

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kuwab0
10/29/20 2:45:20 PM
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Rikiaz
10/29/20 2:48:30 PM
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kuwab0 posted...
Faith is garbage in 2 also
It was stupid broken then they nerfed it too many times. At least sorcery and hexes are great in DS2.

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Kaldrenthebold
10/29/20 2:49:32 PM
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Faith peaked in DS2 then got nerfed into oblivion and it's never been the same. Really fucking sucked cause I was on the first DLC when they nerfed it and I literally built my build around Faith. Really sucked.

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Ving_Rhames
10/29/20 3:53:24 PM
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Yeah, Faith pre-patched in DS2 was legit the most busted thing in the series IMO.

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voldothegr8
10/29/20 4:11:02 PM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
Yeah, Faith pre-patched in DS2 was legit the most busted thing in the series IMO.

That and the bat staff, oh the trolling my buddy and I did before they fixed it. What a hoot!
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MC_BatCommander
10/29/20 4:20:21 PM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
Yeah, Faith pre-patched in DS2 was legit the most busted thing in the series IMO.

It was hilarious, I vividly remember fighting Looking Glass Knight and one / two shotting the people he summoned with sunlight spear. Shit was so op

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CapnMuffin
10/29/20 5:22:16 PM
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https://youtu.be/H8DOk9kA4x4

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Vicious_Dios
10/29/20 5:31:07 PM
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Nothing will ever top 45Dex, Spell-canceling WOG builds in Dark Souls 1.

https://youtu.be/MJDZ-PIOSHc

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Rikiaz
10/29/20 6:29:07 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
Nothing will ever top 45Dex, Spell-canceling WOG builds in Dark Souls 1.

https://youtu.be/MJDZ-PIOSHc
That video just reminds me how stupid dead angling was. And ninja flipping Havels.

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Vicious_Dios
10/29/20 9:55:27 PM
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Rikiaz posted...
That video just reminds me how stupid dead angling was. And ninja flipping Havels.

Which can be countered by proper spacing and TWOP for starters.

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Rikiaz
10/29/20 10:00:53 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
Which can be countered by proper spacing and TWOP for starters.
Not saying dead angling was over powered. It's just stupid, "I couldn't block even though the attack hit my shield because my opponent was facing away from me." And TWOP only lasts 10 seconds, that's not a counter to anything.

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Fluttershy
10/29/20 10:02:34 PM
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It's just stupid, "I couldn't block even though the attack hit my shield because my opponent was facing away from me."

fast forward to all the bads whining about how their ability to bully noobs was taken away in the remaster.

no, i agree. shields should work.

That and the bat staff, oh the trolling my buddy and I did before they fixed it. What a hoot!

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Kaldrenthebold
10/30/20 9:24:16 AM
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The scraping spear in Demon's Souls was the true trolls weapon for invasions. One guy completely crippled a new run I was doing because he destroyed everything I had and I didn't have enough souls to repair them.

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Seaman_Prime
10/30/20 11:16:04 AM
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Any build that doesnt involve pancaking an enemy with a giant weapon is a trash build.
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Rikiaz
10/30/20 2:41:32 PM
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Seaman_Prime posted...
Any build that doesnt involve pancaking an enemy with a giant weapon is a trash build.
giant weapon heavy armor builds are boring af.

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SSJKirby
10/30/20 7:48:30 PM
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Rikiaz posted...
giant weapon heavy armor builds are boring af.
my go to build in DS2 was the Fume Ultra Greatsword, and the desert sorcerer set with a tiara, felt pretty AND strong

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