Current Events > Biden says crime bill was a 'mistake' during ABC town hall

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CommonJoe
10/16/20 11:00:38 AM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
yes he is



Just stop lol

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CruelBuffalo
10/16/20 11:05:22 AM
#52:


CommonJoe posted...


A good thing this article highlights (though not directly) is the difference of sensibilities. They didnt see drug abuse as a health problem (just like AIDS wasnt a health problem) and obviously were unable or unwilling to look at Prohibition as a forewarning of what trying to prohibit drugs would result in.

Thats very different today, and one needs to look at whose willing to actually change with the times and to what degree.


I 100% agree.
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JBaLLEN66
10/16/20 11:06:12 AM
#53:


CommonJoe posted...


Just stop lol

Hell no, I'm not going to let some sheltered Bernie bro paint out this false portrayal that the average black american is in love with crime and sympathizes with drug dealers and thieves.

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CommonJoe
10/16/20 11:07:03 AM
#54:


JBaLLEN66 posted...
Hell no, I'm not going to let some sheltered Bernie bro paint out this false portrayal that the average black american is in love with crime and sympathizes with drug dealers and thieves.

A straw man is a form of argument and an informal fallacy of having the impression of refuting an argument, meanwhile the proper idea of argument under discussion was not addressed or properly refuted. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man". Wikipedia

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JBaLLEN66
10/16/20 11:10:39 AM
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and you are dog whistling something akin to the white man's burden narrative

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CommonJoe
10/16/20 11:12:26 AM
#56:


JBaLLEN66 posted...
and you are dog whistling something akin to the white man's burden narrative

Lol so cute. Poor baby is so flustered hes throwing random shit at the wall hoping itll stick.

Absolutely adorable little troll.

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JBaLLEN66
10/16/20 11:21:59 AM
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CommonJoe posted...
Lol so cute. Poor baby is so flustered hes throwing random shit at the wall hoping itll stick.

Absolutely adorable little troll.

1) Black Americans favored the crime bill

2) Black Americans overwhelmingly voted for Biden over Bernie,

Your response, they are wrong and don't actually know what they want. They need Bernie Sanders or Trump to actually save them.

How is this not a dog whistle to the white man's burden narrative then?

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Cheater87
10/16/20 11:22:06 AM
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You bet it was, this hurt both Clinton and Biden a lot.

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JBaLLEN66
10/16/20 11:27:35 AM
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Cheater87 posted...
You bet it was, this hurt both Clinton and Biden a lot.

but clinton and biden both won their primaries with overwhelmingly black support on their sides?

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CommonJoe
10/16/20 11:28:20 AM
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JBaLLEN66 posted...
1) Black Americans favored the crime bill.

For specific reasons unique to that time. You wouldn't have the same response today.

2) Black Americans overwhelmingly voted for Biden over Bernie,

Not only a non-sequitor, but also a deliberate misrepresentation of reality. Black Americans over 39 voted for Biden. Blacks under 39 voted for Sanders.

Your response, they are wrong and don't actually know what they want. They need Bernie Sanders or Trump to actually save them.

Again, strawman. Are you going to address anything I actually said or will you continue to attack figments of your imagination?

How is this not a dog whistle to the white man's burden narrative then?

Citing a random concept isnt an argument, especially when you're doing so based on a strawman.

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JBaLLEN66
10/16/20 11:35:30 AM
#61:


CommonJoe posted...
For specific reasons unique to that time. You wouldn't have the same response today.

Nominating the dude responsible for writing it should give you your answer


Not only a non-sequitor, but also a deliberate misrepresentation of reality. Black Americans over 39 voted for Biden. Blacks under 39 voted for Sanders.

lmao, okay son

Again, strawman. Are you going to address anything I actually said or will you continue to attack figments of your imagination?

lmao look at your above statement, you are the one living in lalala land


Citing a random concept isnt an argument, especially when you're doing so based on a strawman.

It's not a mere random concept lmao, learn your history

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CommonJoe
10/16/20 11:38:49 AM
#62:


JBaLLEN66 posted...
Nominating the dude responsible for writing it should give you your answer

Imagine gaslighting this blatantly

JBaLLEN66 posted...
lmao, okay son

Facts are inconvenient when your arguments are bullshit arent they?

JBaLLEN66 posted...
lmao look at your above statement, you are the one living in lalala land

Guess that answers the question.

JBaLLEN66 posted...
It's not a mere random concept lmao, learn your history

Learn how to argue non-fallaciously.

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JBaLLEN66
10/16/20 11:42:38 AM
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I just cannot believe this comedy right now, I don't think Bernie Sanders won a single state with a significant proportion of black population If this crime bill was so terrible and racist why did Bernie Sanders and now Trump completely flop with the African American vote. Wait, I can just use the white man's burden approach and make an argument that they actually don't know what they want and insert this white man will guide them.

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CommonJoe
10/16/20 11:46:06 AM
#64:


JBaLLEN66 posted...
I don't think Bernie Sanders won a single state with a significant proportion of black population

And this hasnt been disputed. Stop arguing with figments of your imagination.

JBaLLEN66 posted...
If this crime bill was so terrible and racist why did Bernie Sanders and now Trump completely flop with the African American vote.

1. Trump isnt relevant here.

2. Sanders only flopped with blacks over 39, as already said, which isnt unique to that demographic.

Sanders won the majority of under 39s across the board regardless of race, but that isnt the same thing as winning the election as under 39s only make up 1/3 of the electorate under an impossible 100% turnout.

JBaLLEN66 posted...
Wait, I can just use the white man's burden approach and make an argument that they actually don't know what they want and insert this white man will guide them.

Stop arguing with figments of your imagination.

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JBaLLEN66
10/16/20 11:50:23 AM
#65:


CommonJoe posted...
And this hasnt been disputed. Stop arguing with figments of your imagination.

1. Trump isnt relevant here.

2. Sanders only flopped with blacks over 39, as already said, which isnt unique to that demographic.

Sanders won the majority of under 39s across the board regardless of race, but that isnt the same thing as winning the election as under 39s only make up 1/3 of the electorate under an impossible 100% turnout.

You are calling me imaginative but your posts scream BERNIE revisionism lmao

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CommonJoe
10/16/20 11:51:27 AM
#66:


JBaLLEN66 posted...
You are calling me imaginative but your posts scream BERNIE revisionism lmao

So are you going to argue seriously or can we just mark you as a troll and move on?

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Funkydog
10/16/20 11:52:15 AM
#67:


CommonJoe posted...
So are you going to argue seriously or can we just mark you as a troll and move on?
You are arguing with someone who disputes the holocaust. Don't waste your time with them.

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CommonJoe
10/16/20 11:53:21 AM
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Funkydog posted...
You are arguing with someone who disputes the holocaust. Don't waste your time with them.

"Black American" indeed lol.

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JBaLLEN66
10/16/20 11:58:39 AM
#69:


CommonJoe posted...
So are you going to argue seriously or can we just mark you as a troll and move on?

argue seriously? Biden beat Bernie Sanders in the primary, get over it. Obviously this crime bill bull **** is tears from butthurt bernie bros and the pig iron ammo scraps Trumpcels have against Biden.

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CommonJoe
10/16/20 12:00:43 PM
#70:


JBaLLEN66 posted...
argue seriously? Biden beat Bernie Sanders in the primary, get over it

Ok and thats not on topic. As said, if you want to argue seriously itll take no effort Im sure. Surely your hamster is still running.

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CommonJoe
10/16/20 12:01:49 PM
#71:


JBaLLEN66 posted...
Obviously this crime bill bull **** is tears from butthurt bernie bros and the pig iron ammo scraps Trumpcels have against Biden.

https://youtu.be/NIgfiSzCy1o

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JBaLLEN66
10/16/20 12:02:53 PM
#72:


CommonJoe posted...
https://youtu.be/NIgfiSzCy1o

gifs and memes won't win you a primary

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CommonJoe
10/16/20 12:04:09 PM
#73:


JBaLLEN66 posted...
gifs and memes won't win you a primary

Off topic posting isnt winning you any arguments.

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TheMikh
10/16/20 12:09:56 PM
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he can say whatever he pleases but he can't undo the harm it did to families

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Smashingpmkns
10/16/20 12:16:51 PM
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Holocaust denier fully defending the crime bill ITT. Some things just make sense.
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Damn_Underscore
10/16/20 12:47:37 PM
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He went into a lot of detail about it.

I don't understand the point of making his Yes or No response to the question all you talk about. I guess that's what online political commentators do though.

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