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CommonJoe
10/11/20 3:13:53 PM
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give it a rest. Your opinion isnt unique and you sound like a tool.


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Webbernet
10/11/20 3:16:16 PM
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Instead complain about the businesses that expect you to pay part of the salary of their employees.
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Damn_Underscore
10/11/20 3:17:34 PM
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Posting about anything is lame af.

give it a rest. Your opinion isnt unique and you sound like a tool.

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CommonJoe
10/11/20 3:17:53 PM
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Webbernet posted...
Instead complain about the businesses that expect you to pay part of the salary of their employees.

Waiters dont get salaries.

That people cant even get their terminology correct also contributes to why the topic title is true.

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CommonJoe
10/11/20 3:18:04 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Posting about anything is lame af.

give it a rest. Your opinion isnt unique and you sound like a tool.

Okay nihilist

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Naysaspace
10/11/20 3:18:56 PM
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no kidding. Cheap asses want their store prepped tendies but can't even round the dollar up for the immigrant single mom working 3 jobs there. "BOOTSRAPS PEOPLE, WHAT DID I TELL YOU!"
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UnfairRepresent
10/11/20 3:20:07 PM
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Webbernet posted...
Instead complain about the businesses that expect you to pay part of the salary of their employees.

Even waitresses earning min wage should still get tips

it's not an either/or situation
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Webbernet
10/11/20 3:21:09 PM
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CommonJoe posted...


Waiters dont get salaries.

That people cant even get their terminology correct also contributes to why the topic title is true.

Pardon me my lord, yikes. Im agreeing with you.
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TheAwesomeMatt
10/11/20 3:21:33 PM
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Tipping is weird here in Canada, the machines will prompt for a % when tipping (10/15/20 usually) but it's based on the post tax total.

Tipping on tax is stupid Imo.

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Webbernet
10/11/20 3:22:55 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...


Even waitresses earning min wage should still get tips

it's not an either/or situation

Im fine with that; I just said that the person needs that money because their pay is shit even compared to minimum wage.
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Lunar_Savage
10/11/20 3:24:35 PM
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Webbernet posted...
Instead complain about the businesses that expect you to pay part of the salary of their employees.

You realize that either way, you pay their employee's salaries. The cost is passed on to you wrapped up in the cost of the food, product, or service provided. Places that expect tipping are telling you up front they didn't include that in their costs so that you can provide what you believe was fair pay for the service provided separately. If you abuse that and demand service and provide no pay for the service (no matter what), you're the one making yourself look bad.

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VonOrdelia
10/11/20 3:26:25 PM
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Why do we only tip the waiters? Should tip everyone involved.

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EffectAndCause
10/11/20 3:27:57 PM
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We need the tipping system. - one of only
like 2 countries on Earth that have a tipping system.

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Eliza-Schuyler
10/11/20 3:29:41 PM
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@No_U_L7

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PoundGarden
10/11/20 3:31:16 PM
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VonOrdelia posted...
Why do we only tip the waiters? Should tip everyone involved.

Every restaurant I've ever worked in required the servers to give a percentage to the support staff (back of house, front o house, bartenders) so you actually do

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Webbernet
10/11/20 3:32:15 PM
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Lunar_Savage posted...


You realize that either way, you pay their employee's salaries. The cost is passed on to you wrapped up in the cost of the food, product, or service provided. Places that expect tipping are telling you up front they didn't include that in their costs so that you can provide what you believe was fair pay for the service provided separately. If you abuse that and demand service and provide no pay for the service (no matter what), you're the one making yourself look bad.


A lot of people are fine with looking bad
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UnfairRepresent
10/11/20 3:32:42 PM
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VonOrdelia posted...
Why do we only tip the waiters? Should tip everyone involved.

Because it's a service job.

They are at the whim of yourself and every other customer as they run off their feet.

it's not comparable to a guy in an office cubicle.

You tip for their service

I will never understand the frankly bizarre tactic of pretending to be so stupid that you can't comprehend that just in a weak attempt to justify being a bad person.

"I'm not horrible I'm just really dumb see?" is a weird flex to me. It was weird pre covid, during covid its boldly going where no man has gone before
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VipaGTS
10/11/20 3:33:23 PM
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CommonJoe posted...
Waiters dont get salaries.

That people cant even get their terminology correct also contributes to why the topic title is true.
Of. Get off that high horse of yours jfc.

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pinky0926
10/11/20 3:34:05 PM
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Tipping is lame though. Like it shouldn't exist as it does.

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UnfairRepresent
10/11/20 3:34:54 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
Tipping is lame though. Like it shouldn't exist as it does.

Yes it should.

Why shouldn't it?
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CommonJoe
10/11/20 3:35:15 PM
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Lunar_Savage posted...
If you abuse that and demand service and provide no pay for the service (no matter what), you're the one making yourself look bad.

Hard this.

And like you said, even with proper base pay tipping should still be a custom.

I have a feeling many who bitch about tipping wouldnt even tip in the first place, even if the service was excellent.

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VonOrdelia
10/11/20 3:35:52 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
You tip for their service
But not the service of Bob from Home Depot who spent an hour helping you find light bulbs.

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pinky0926
10/11/20 3:35:59 PM
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And when people defend the mandatory tipping system they sound like the guy who says the boat is supposed to have a hole in the bottom and its on you to arrive on deck with a bag full of corks

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Lunar_Savage
10/11/20 3:36:25 PM
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Webbernet posted...
A lot of people are fine with looking bad

I'm aware. Our country really isn't a pleasant place to live.

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CommonJoe
10/11/20 3:37:03 PM
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VonOrdelia posted...
But not the service of Bob from Home Depot who spent an hour helping you find light bulbs.

If it took an hour to find light bulbs Bob doesnt deserve a tip even if that was a thing.

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UnfairRepresent
10/11/20 3:37:32 PM
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VonOrdelia posted...

But not the service of Bob from Home Depot who spent an hour helping you find light bulbs.

Because his job is not a service job.

Are you seriously pretending that you don't comprehend this?
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Funkydog
10/11/20 3:38:20 PM
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America's tipping culture is just one of many examples of how the corporations have got people willingly doing things that make them suffer and benefit the corporation.

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VonOrdelia
10/11/20 3:40:39 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Because his job is not a service job.

Are you seriously pretending that you don't comprehend this?
Oh I understand but you don't seem to be aware that there are numerous "service jobs" where people aren't tipped. Teachers are considered a service job when's the last time you tipped a teacher?

The fact is tipping as a means to make up a server's poor wages has become such a part of our culture that even as wages have risen we now consider it impolite not to do it.

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Kajagogo
10/11/20 3:42:52 PM
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Tipping is fine. I don't mind it, and I tip accordingly to the level of service I get.

What I can't stand is the people who demand and think they are entitled to [good] tips no matter what.

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refmon
10/11/20 3:43:32 PM
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Funkydog posted...
America's tipping culture is just one of many examples of how the corporations have got people willingly doing things that make them suffer and benefit the corporation.


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I4NRulez
10/11/20 3:43:44 PM
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Personally, i dont understand why we tip. I do it but i dont get it.

Like the situations where we tip and don't tip are strange. Like when i worked at Spectrum the techs couldn't take tips and like the UPS or FedEx guys don't stick around for tips. You dont tip nurses either.

but im expected to tip my pizza delivery or waiter. Its weird to me

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VipaGTS
10/11/20 3:45:30 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
Personally, i dont understand why we tip. I do it but i dont get it.

Like the situations where we tip and don't tip are strange. Like when i worked at Spectrum the techs couldn't take tips and like the UPS or FedEx guys don't stick around for tips. You dont tip nurses either.

but im expected to tip my pizza delivery or waiter. Its weird to me
exactly. A guy drives your pizza to you 5 mins away, tip him. Meanwhile, when I worked retail I spent hours sometimes helping people with weddings, parties, funerals, etc...I couldnt accept tips even if they wanted to tip me and most people wouldnt think to tip me.

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I4NRulez
10/11/20 3:48:04 PM
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VipaGTS posted...
exactly. A guy drives your pizza to you 5 mins away, tip him. Meanwhile, when I worked retail I spent hours sometimes helping people with weddings, parties, funerals, etc...I couldnt accept tips even if they wanted to tip me and most people wouldnt think to tip me.

I was a pizza delivery driver in college. Its the easiest fucking job. Get pizza, look at map thats divided into grids, go to address and come back.

I didnt even speed and across the whole delivery area was probably a max of 3-5 miles. Plus it was rare someone got cold pizza those hot bags kept em hot for a while. I didnt complain but there wasnt a situation where i needed a 5-10 dollar tip but i didnt refuse it lol

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UnfairRepresent
10/11/20 3:49:03 PM
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VonOrdelia posted...

Oh I understand but you don't seem to be aware that there are numerous "service jobs" where people aren't tipped. Teachers are considered a service job when's the last time you tipped a teacher?

The fact is tipping as a means to make up a server's poor wages has become such a part of our culture that even as wages have risen we now consider it impolite not to do it.

Calling teaching a service job is wishy washy

but even if you lie and do your point still falls down

Take the UK for example were waitresses are paid min wage.

Teachers are paid a min salary of 25,700+ even on their first year. With most earning considerably more.

If Waitresses made that then maybe you could argue they don't need tips

As it stands not tipping waitresses in the UK is the difference between whether they eat 1-3 times a day and whether they can turn the radiator on when its freezing cold at night

WTF is a tenner to you? its day to day life altering to people in service jobs who have earned that tip, especially during Covid

You're a horrible person if you refuse to give one
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