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ShatteredElysium
11/23/20 10:01:26 PM
#351:


Subjecting myself to Raw this week. Here are the 5 finishes so far

Countout, possibly double, was unclear (followed by restart)
Powerbomb countered into sunset flip pin (winners flee)
Roll-up (winner flees)
DQ (turned into tag match)
Roll-up (winners flee)

Are they allergic to actual finishes? I'm trying to give them a chance but come on...

Also, I get that Bazsler and Nia are heels but they are awful. Like rather than root against them, I just don't want to see them which feels like bad heel booking?
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ShatteredElysium
11/23/20 10:15:00 PM
#352:


Next match. DQ.

Fucking lol.
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Eddv
11/23/20 10:33:36 PM
#353:


Theyve completely ruined the rollup as a finish which as a bret hart fan really pisses me off.

Like people are mad about Darby winning his title via a Malenko/Guerrero sequence.

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NBIceman
11/23/20 10:37:22 PM
#354:


That drives me nuts as a Genki Horiguchi fan as well.

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ShatteredElysium
11/23/20 10:38:58 PM
#355:


Because they just use it as a crutch for we want the face / underdog to win without making the heel look weak. So you can't even use it correctly now because it's so overused in bad scenarios
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ShatteredElysium
11/23/20 11:03:54 PM
#356:


So 8 matches

2 DQs
1 Countout
3 Roll-ups of some variation
1 win via interference
1 clean finish (via heel trickery but that's fine and fit even if obvious)

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PrivateBiscuit1
11/23/20 11:04:22 PM
#357:


ShatteredElysium posted...
So 8 matches

2 DQs
1 Countout
3 Roll-ups of some variation
1 win via interference
1 clean finish (via heel trickery but that's fine and fit even if obvious)
https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1331075215250616321?s=19

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ShatteredElysium
11/23/20 11:11:32 PM
#358:


I just don't know how you can expect anyone to be invested when that's the 3 hours of content you are putting out. Maybe I just picked a bad week to watch but it seemed I could have learned everything I needed to know about that episode by reading like 3 sentences and not wasting 3 hours
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NBIceman
11/23/20 11:25:12 PM
#359:


ShatteredElysium posted...
I just don't know how you can expect anyone to be invested when that's the 3 hours of content you are putting out.
There's a contingent of fans of the product that will be invested and watch literally no matter what, and Vince is content with that number if it lets him basically play out all of his action figure fantasies with the real human beings he employs.

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ZeroSignal620
11/23/20 11:26:11 PM
#360:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1331075215250616321?s=19

On Raw, mind you. He beat Orton clean as a sheet on ppv

The real problem is WWE giving us another round of Orton vs Wyatt

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TheRock1525
11/24/20 12:19:13 AM
#361:


Adam Pearce accidentally called DREW MAC "Drew McInfart."

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PrivateBiscuit1
11/27/20 1:50:41 PM
#362:


https://twitter.com/ScovilleWarrior/status/1331768493562327040?s=19

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ZeroSignal620
11/27/20 10:51:08 PM
#363:


Most likely scenarios for TLC after this week...

McIntyre vs the winner of Styles/Lee/Riddle triple threat (I'm going with Styles, unless they're saving him for Wrestlemania. In that case, Lee)
Reigns vs Owens
Orton vs Wyatt (or Orton vs Fiend if they don't wanna drag this out)
Bryan vs Zayn
Profits vs Roode/Ziggler
New Day vs Hurt Business (specifically MVP/Lashley)

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PrivateBiscuit1
11/27/20 11:11:35 PM
#364:


So WWE refused to help Cezar Bononi get a green card and keep him from deported after they fired him during a pandemic, because they wanted to keep him on a work visa and have control over him.

I don't know how they keep getting worse over these pandemic releases but somehow they do.

https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/cezar-bononi-says-wwe-wouldn-t-help-him-green-card-was-making-600-week-nxt

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Jakyl25
11/28/20 10:57:53 AM
#365:


ZeroSignal620 posted...
Most likely scenarios for TLC after this week...

McIntyre vs the winner of Styles/Lee/Riddle triple threat (I'm going with Styles, unless they're saving him for Wrestlemania. In that case, Lee)
Reigns vs Owens
Orton vs Wyatt (or Orton vs Fiend if they don't wanna drag this out)
Bryan vs Zayn
Profits vs Roode/Ziggler
New Day vs Hurt Business (specifically MVP/Lashley)


Meltzer says the plan is still for Braun to get the title shot somehow so well see how that develops
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TheRock1525
11/28/20 12:27:45 PM
#366:


Jakyl25 posted...
Meltzer says the plan is still for Braun to get the title shot somehow so well see how that develops
I thought they said Braun now has a leg injury and that's why they went with the triple threat.

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TheRock1525
12/01/20 6:28:44 AM
#367:


So poor Mia Yim had to wrestle her first match on the main roster with that stupid mask on.

It literally fell off 10 seconds into the match.

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RaidenGarai
12/02/20 9:45:03 AM
#368:


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ShatteredElysium
12/02/20 7:25:46 PM
#369:


RIP Pat :(

Completely unrelated but how is it 2020 and I'm only just realizing Orton is 6ft 5. I always assumed he was like 6ft but after seeing the ridiculous height difference between him and Alexa Bliss (who I know is really small) when she squared up to him I had to look it up
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MrGreenonion
12/02/20 7:47:32 PM
#370:


I find myself looking forward to Winter is Coming more than I have for any wrestling show in a while.

I think it's the combo of not-WWE so it might be a good show, and not-PPV because $50 makes it hard to get excited. But a big free AEW show sounds really good right now.

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TheRock1525
12/02/20 9:36:04 PM
#371:


Welp, Sting is in AEW.

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Maniac64
12/02/20 9:40:52 PM
#372:


Not excited for him wrestling but always excited to see him!

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TheRock1525
12/02/20 9:51:21 PM
#373:


He's gonna give his gimmick to Darby.

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ScareChan
12/02/20 10:08:07 PM
#374:


TheRock1525 posted...
He's gonna give his gimmick to Darby.

if only

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paulg235
12/02/20 10:13:46 PM
#375:


Sting signing a Multi-Year Deal with AEW felt almost like something TNA would do over a decade back. I know Sting will be utilised well in angles/promos (where I expect/hope will be his main use and not for wrestling at this point), but I got "Legend to TNA" vibes from it for some reason.

So naturally, that gets followed with the revelation that AEW and IMPACT are now working together.

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PrivateBiscuit1
12/02/20 10:16:21 PM
#376:


Tbh, I think they've done a good job properly utilizing legends for the most part. But hey! Awesome main event and a great show overall!

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TheRock1525
12/02/20 10:18:52 PM
#377:


Impact does seem far enough removed from its LOLTNA days that this is probably a good thing for both promotions.

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PrivateBiscuit1
12/02/20 10:21:33 PM
#378:


And yeah, Impact is supposed to be fine now. I think someone in this topic still watches it I think.

I could understand NWA working with AEW to ape off their women's division, but I don't know that Impact can offer much to AEW.

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TheRock1525
12/02/20 10:28:14 PM
#379:


Su Yung and Rosemary would help.

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scarletspeed7
12/02/20 10:49:37 PM
#380:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
And yeah, Impact is supposed to be fine now. I think someone in this topic still watches it I think.

I could understand NWA working with AEW to ape off their women's division, but I don't know that Impact can offer much to AEW.
I watch it!

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PrivateBiscuit1
12/03/20 6:35:29 PM
#381:


Winter came

https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1334632627094085639?s=19

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Jakyl25
12/03/20 6:52:11 PM
#382:


Sting wrestling = bad

Sting occasionally appearing to give the rub to Darby = good
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Maniac64
12/03/20 6:54:35 PM
#383:


My wife said that they should just have Sting hanging out in the rafters/upper seats for the length of his contract. Just watching and almost never getting involved in any way.

Honestly I'd be ok with that. We at least need a Dynamite where they cut to Darby hanging out watching from above, then the camera moves up to show Sting even higher up watching Darby.

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TheRock1525
12/03/20 7:30:17 PM
#384:


Maniac64 posted...
My wife said that they should just have Sting hanging out in the rafters/upper seats for the length of his contract. Just watching and almost never getting involved in any way.

Honestly I'd be ok with that. We at least need a Dynamite where they cut to Darby hanging out watching from above, then the camera moves up to show Sting even higher up watching Darby.

Then even higher up and somehow Sting's above Darby.

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Panthera
12/03/20 7:41:53 PM
#385:


They need to have Darby being watched from higher up by Sting who is being watched from higher up by a guy in a Sting mask who is being watched from higher up by Darby in a Sting in a match who is being watched from higher up by Sting in a Sting mask

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Tom Bombadil
12/03/20 8:20:27 PM
#386:


now we're talkin'

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PrivateBiscuit1
12/04/20 3:49:52 PM
#387:


I feel like this isn't fair. Punk should know more than anyone else that WWE strips literally everything from the wrestlers with shitty promo classes and even shittier scripts that are meant to strip any authenticity from wrestlers, and that Pat McAfee is more than likely given more freedom than anyone else due to his celebrity status.

https://twitter.com/CMPunk/status/1334950243373297666?s=19

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NBIceman
12/04/20 4:11:22 PM
#388:


punk saying something in bad faith? nooooooo

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HashtagSEP
12/04/20 4:13:54 PM
#389:


Punk would never do that

I feel betrayed

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PrivateBiscuit1
12/04/20 4:24:23 PM
#390:


If we can't trust CM Punk who can we trust?

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TheRock1525
12/04/20 4:53:16 PM
#391:


He did at least acknowledge it.

https://twitter.com/CMPunk/status/1334953082514534403?s=19

Also he said Pat is the best thing on NXT not named Rhea Ripley.

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ZeroSignal620
12/05/20 1:05:35 AM
#392:


First matches for TLC confirmed

McIntyre vs Styles
Orton vs Fiend
Asuka and Lana vs Nia and Baszler for the Women's Tag Titles

Most of my predicted matches seem likely to happen, and ideally after SD tonight, a triple threat tag team match could be among Street Profits, Roode/Ziggler, and Cesaro/Nakamura.

Also the Forgotten Sons are back onscreen again as Corbin's new henchmen


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Jakyl25
12/05/20 2:25:52 AM
#393:


So NXT this week only did 14,000 M18-34 viewers

I didnt forget a 0

The future is bleak
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ffmasterjose
12/05/20 11:19:14 AM
#394:


Is Ryker with them or is it just Blake and Cutler?

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PrivateBiscuit1
12/05/20 11:24:54 AM
#395:


I hear just Blake and Cutler.

Also, Billie Kay seems like the only thing that can cut through WWE's stupid shit. How is she so entertaining?

https://twitter.com/RubyRiottWWE/status/1335255329395929089?s=20

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ZeroSignal620
12/05/20 1:29:52 PM
#396:


Jakyl25 posted...
So NXT this week only did 14,000 M18-34 viewers

I didnt forget a 0

The future is bleak

Also, if I'm not mistaken, AEW had a slightly higher 18-34 than Raw this week.

Could be wrong, only looking through Google

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HashtagSEP
12/05/20 1:49:45 PM
#397:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
I hear just Blake and Cutler.

Also, Billie Kay seems like the only thing that can cut through WWE's stupid shit. How is she so entertaining?

https://twitter.com/RubyRiottWWE/status/1335255329395929089?s=20

Dont you start, Kayla.

I love her

Billie you are too good for this

I mean youre not but you are

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TheRock1525
12/05/20 2:12:25 PM
#398:


If you read the fake resume she put up on Twitter, it seems to imply that Peyton was actually the teammate weighing the IIconics down.

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Jakyl25
12/05/20 2:15:21 PM
#399:


ZeroSignal620 posted...


Also, if I'm not mistaken, AEW had a slightly higher 18-34 than Raw this week.

Could be wrong, only looking through Google


Looking at the data in the Observer

AEW did 103,000 viewers in males 18-34

AEW did 78,000 in females 18-34


The show [Raw] did 77,000 viewers in males 18-34, 115,000 in women 18-34


I think thats a very slight win for Raw
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Jakyl25
12/05/20 2:18:00 PM
#400:


Maybe the reports you saw were the viewership demos converted to ratings points, since I imagine more people are watching TV on Monday nights due to MNF which would lower Raws overall share of the demo for the evening
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