Current Events > Leftists of Gamefaqs, why are you left wing?

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What are your reasons for being left wing?

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I want other people's money.

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Because Im not a moron and have empathy and integrity.

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I just think left wing economics to an extend works better. Right wing economics doesn't work because rich people hoard money and the working and middle class can't afford anything so it stagnates the economy. Like you need to spread the wealth around to an extent.

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I think people deserve healthcare

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the anthem is better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs

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It's the heart vs mind battle and I roll with my heart even if it's wrong

Squall28 posted...

I want other people's money.

(>o.o)> - Give munz

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I have empathy.

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im literally black.

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Whose alt is this
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I believe every human life has meaning and we all belong to each other, and thus we should use everything we have to take care of one another. I believe that life is not something that must be earned.

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Right wing politics is mostly about selfishness, greed, authority and hatred for anything that is different.

Kiss ass of those above you, step on those below.

Fuck that.
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Because I have empathy and I believe in facts and science.

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I just think left wing economics to an extend works better. Right wing economics doesn't work because rich people hoard money and the working and middle class can't afford anything so it stagnates the economy. Like you need to spread the wealth around to an extent.

correct

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shockthemonkey posted...

But its not heart vs mind. Leftists arent stupid fucks ignoring all their logical instincts.

Idk man they got some poisoned up instincts that literally destroy their minds

Being morally entwined to the point you can't clearly see the steps to the objective just means you're going to be fighting the air for the most part, they're lucky they have some capable candidates doing the thinking for them or surely they'd be proposing weak cases for everything

I vote blue, but I hardly have anything to do with them. Republicans are Darth Vader and Democrats (the dumb ones anyways) are Emperor Palpatine before his true form reveal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zc3idF_IZ0

I used to be more of a fiscal conservative which has no representation in either major party so if were going to spend boatloads of cash, Id rather it go to the benefit of society and working class citizens rather than nationalizing the stock market and other bailouts for the rich and corporations.

Even then, Im starting to feel our culture cant be expected to be responsible with libertarianism in an economic sense

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We are all tiny specks hurtling through space on a tiny rock. We all have consciousness and don't really choose most of the most important influences on our lives. All we have is each other as far as we know. We therefore have a responsibility to each other to make our 0-100 year stay on this rock as good as it can be. And we owe that to the future versions of ourselves too.

Throughout post-agriculture human history, we have done the opposite of that and run societies where the many worked endlessly to support the few who were only concerned with preserving whatever the order was that put them on top. I think that should be changed in favor of a system based on the equality and dignity of human beings, joined together to create an equitable and sustainable world. That will require a huge shift away from how things have been done and how they are currently being done.

I think if you take these principles seriously, I think that leads pretty directly to being some form of leftist.

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For economics: I for one have never been a big respecter of hierarchies, and capitalism is rife with them. Over the years I've come to educate myself a bit and I tend to agree with the Marx/Engels historical analysis of class struggle and dialectical materialism - namely that all of history can be seen through the lens of the struggle between the working class and the ruling class. And while capitalism has made it somewhat easier for individual members of the working class to transition to members of the ruling class, it still relies on the subjugation of a working class to sustain itself, and will therefore eventually need to be replaced if the class struggle is ever to end.

In terms of social issues: I would say a lot of it boils down to my innate dislike of hierarchy. Equality among all individuals is something I have felt called to pursue my entire life. It's not exactly material analysis but I feel that all lives have value to them, and that the current systems we live under do not respect those inherent values for certain individuals due to their race, sex, gender, nation of origin, sexual orientation, or what have you. The subjugation of those individuals creates unnatural hierarchy, and I don't like that.

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because I want a cooperative society that looks out for everyone regardless of their life situation. I think the world would be a better place for everyone

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I find that the right is too focused on the short term, and left-wing economic policy is the only viable long-term option. Take care of more people AND end up in the black. Literally a win-win and the right is too stupid to see it.

Then I see that stupidity and it pisses me off to the point that I just want them to lose on principle, because people that stupid shouldn't be close to the levers of power.

So then I look a little closer because I wonder how people that stupid keep winning and that's when I notice all the corruption keeping them propped up.

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FrankJaegr posted...

Idk man they got some poisoned up instincts that literally destroy their minds

Being morally entwined to the point you can't clearly see the steps to the objective just means you're going to be fighting the air for the most part, they're lucky they have some capable candidates doing the thinking for them or surely they'd be proposing weak cases for everything

I vote blue, but I hardly have anything to do with them. Republicans are Darth Vader and Democrats (the dumb ones anyways) are Emperor Palpatine before his true form reveal

the democrats are right-wing

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Because we live in a society

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VipaGTS posted...

Because Im not a moron and have empathy and integrity.

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why would I be right wing?

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thronedfire2 posted...

why would I be right wing?

Because you're rich and greedy, don't like feminism, don't like non white people, don't like LGBT people, don't like poor people, don't like disabled people, or is pro life until the baby comes out.

averagejoel posted...

the democrats are right-wing

This.

U.S. Politics is basically right wing vs. ultra right wing.

One of the biggest absurdities is that people actually think Democrat politicians are radical leftists.
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All of the major problems of the world are being caused by authority figures and capitalism, because of the fundamental ways in which authority and capitalism work, and people who try to compromise with those things (liberals and centrists) are useless by definition, on a good day. I have no use in being anything other than far left for that reason.

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Leftist policies are more logical, and Europe has proven they work until right wing assholes ruined it for everyone.

Why can't the richest country in the world provide for all its citizens? Oh no! The rich will only have 6 yachts instead of 9?! They don't need any yachts in the first fucking place.
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I think the simplest way to put my reasons is that we currently produce enough food to feed around 11 billion people (notice that is several billion more people than currently exist).

So why, then, do so many starve? Capitalism.

Thats why Im a communist.

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Because the right doesn't even try to operate in the real world anymore. Used to be pretty Conservative as a kid though, but education fixed that right up.

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shockthemonkey posted...

The Democrats arent a leftist party.

Whatever they are they dont really represent me; Ive dealt with racism and its configurations down to the micro level and I hardened up over the years. I dont try to cyber guilt someone into morality knowing we can equalize on the basis that Im a human struggling to get by and so are they

My loud mouth will definitely say shit to open racists out in public, but I dont think at any point I ever thought that was going to be an effective strategy as a young boy knowing how people act

I can discern actions that I know will further deepen someones heels into ignorant mud and opt for other ways after dealing with it for so long; Im not special in any way because of this, I just have learned some better things that help me convince minds

hamstar posted...

What are your reasons for being left wing?

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Because of right wing policies.

Seriously though.

When I was growing up I was always told that in order to succeed in life I had to go get an education get a college degree so I could get a good paying job.

I was there when my father quit his job and went back to school and graduated and was immediately able to turn around and get another job that paid much better than what he had previously.

For a while it was just us living on my mother's salary. We were dirt poor I was sleeping in the closet and we didn't really have much of anything but life changed dramatically after my father got a college degree and got a better paying job.

Around this time I still didn't really understand much about politics but I understood the lesson that I needed to go to college and needed to educate myself so that I could turn my situation into one that was successful like my father did.

And something strange happened when I was in my junior year in high school. One of the students got pregnant and had to drop out. I immediately asked why didn't she get an abortion. And you know the usual story that it was against her beliefs or her parents beliefs or whatever else have you.

This was actually a total shock to me having known what life was like both before and after a successful education all I could think about was that this girl who was not even old enough to buy cigarettes could now potentially be subjected to the same life that I was poor as hell living on just one parent salary for potentially the rest of her life was astonishing. I could only think about her eight years from now with her kids sleeping in a closet thinking that because she dropped out of high school she would have a very hard time getting many scholarships that were normally only available to high school graduates not to mention anything of the fact that it would be extremely difficult to both study and take care of a small child at the same time getting pregnant ruined her life and her child's life regardless of whether or not she wanted the child it was a life destroying event.

Now if she wanted to destroy her own life, well that's fine that's her decision, but when I begin to understand that people out there wanted to prohibit the one avenue from which a young teenage girl could salvage their life after a mistake from being perpetually behind on education to her peers, I can only see that as malicious.

That isn't a policy about love and kindness and compassion that's a policy about wanting people to be poor and hopeless with very little support. And the justification for all of it was because one of the biggest child sexual abuse rackets in the world said not to do it.

That is simply unconscionable to me and I will never agree otherwise.

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FrankJaegr posted...

Whatever they are they dont really represent me; Ive dealt with racism and its configurations down to the micro level and I hardened up over the years. I dont try to cyber guilt someone into morality knowing we can equalize on the basis that Im a human struggling to get by and so are they

My loud mouth will definitely say shit to open racists out in public, but I dont think at any point I ever thought that was going to be an effective strategy as a young boy knowing how people act

I can discern actions that I know will further deepen someones heels into ignorant mud and opt for other ways after dealing with it for so long; Im not special in any way because of this, I just have learned some better things that help me convince minds

Dude what the fuck are you even talking about

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the two core issues guiding my politics in my years as a leftist were foreign policy and healthcare reform; everything else somewhat incidental

nonintervention with respect to foreign policy and meaningful healthcare reform were considered more "progressive" and leftist inclinations, after all; uhc seemingly an exclusively left-leaning position in political discourse at the time

it would dawn on me as time progressed, however, that "progressive" or even left-leaning politicians (past and present) were just as prone to corruption as conservative or right-leaning ones, just as prone to implementing botched faux-legislation that moreso favors cronies, just as prone to abuse of civil liberties, and just as prone to bombing neutral countries into failed states, just as beholden to international finance and capital, just as capable of being indifferent towards the plight of the socially and economically disadvantaged with respect to actions rather than just platitudes

as such i deemed government a problem as much as big capital, and thus any leftist advocacy requiring government action inherently compromised

so for a few years thereafter i was very partial to libsoc, though combating personal scruples with less economic-related forms of individual or group inequalities that could still manifest themselves within a left-libertarian framework, never mind the problem of human inclination to self-interest, and economic inefficiencies in communistic societies relative to capitalistic societies

then one day i picked up a couple books by sowell out of morbid curiosity

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Politics posted...

I just think left wing economics to an extend works better. Right wing economics doesn't work because rich people hoard money and the working and middle class can't afford anything so it stagnates the economy. Like you need to spread the wealth around to an extent.

MaxEffingBemis posted...

I think people deserve healthcare

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These all work.

Plus, as a minority, it's against my own self-interests to follow right-wing causes.

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hamstar posted...

What are your reasons for being left wing?

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I'm not but I feel that my family and friends are in danger under Republicans. So as a conservative I'm voting Democrats.

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Unknown361 posted...

I'm not but I feel that my family and friends are in danger under Republicans. So as a conservative I'm voting Democrats.

Which state?

VitalGetPrank posted...

Because the right doesn't even try to operate in the real world anymore. Used to be pretty Conservative as a kid though, but education fixed that right up.

This, except I was a moderate. By the time I could vote the American political spectrum had skewed far enough right to put me over on the left, and I've drifted left over time as well. Let's see, specific policy stuff:

• I'm pro-choice
• I believe we need to take action to combat climate change (it's way too late to take action on preventing it, but I supported trying to prevent it back when that was still possible)
• I don't believe that trickle-down economics works
• I don't believe that unregulated capitalism works
• I do believe in small business, but I've watched the supposedly "pro-small business" party consistently pass legislation that helps big business and oppose legislation that would help small business
• I've consistently seen Democratic administrations build strong economies and Republican administrations tank them, which is decent evidence that modern Republican economic policies are worse than modern Democratic ones
• I've witnessed structural racism and structural sexism in action (this is a major area where my politics have moved left). I only see one party even thinking about taking action to address this
• I think basic healthcare needs to be socialized (this is the other major area I've moved left). Capitalism is completely unsuited to a market where demand is effectively infinite
• I believe that science works

I see and hear suffering everywhere I look in the richest country that has ever existed. Everywhere people are oppressed, brutalized, and/or immiserated, and we are supposed to accept this as normal. We're supposed to blame the home-buyers who were defrauded and not the banks which defrauded them. We're supposed to sacrifice our time and health for tyrannical bosses who pay us peanuts and throw us under the bus at a moment's notice, sometimes for no reason at all. We're supposed to accept that getting cancer leads to death or bankruptcy. We're supposed to accept that the candidate who gets less votes is sometimes the winner. That the rich go free while the poor are harshly punished for minor crimes. That not all lives matter, that it's okay for police to routinely administer extrajudicial executions. That 9 unelected judges can decide whether or not you have rights.

I cannot and will never accept it. That's why.

MaxEffingBemis posted...

Dude what the fuck are you even talking about

Idk man just read it and stop overthinking or under thinking about it

Whichever applies to you

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Thanks :)

LOL

Right wingers getting shook ITT

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tote_all posted...

Human empathy.

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