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Scorsese2002
10/08/20 11:43:35 AM
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https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/10/08/feds-thwart-militia-plot-kidnap-michigan-gov-gretchen-whitmer/5922301002/

The FBI thwarted what they described as a plot to violently overthrow the government and kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer and federal prosecutors are expected to discuss the alleged conspiracy later Thursday.

The alleged plot involved reaching out to members of a Michigan militia, according to a federal affidavit filed Thursday.

"Several members talked about murdering 'tyrants' or 'taking' a sitting governor," an FBI agent wrote in the affidavit. "The group decided they needed to increase their numbers and encouraged each other to talk to their neighbors and spread their message."

The affidavit was filed hours after a team of FBI agents raided a Hartland Township home Wednesday and comes amid an ongoing investigation into the death of a Metro Detroit man killed during a shootout with FBI agents.

In recent weeks, the state-owned Michigan governor's residence received security upgrades, including the construction of a new perimeter fence.

The "perimeter security and other safety upgrades" were planned out last year, Whitmer spokeswoman Tiffany Brown said in early September. They were scheduled to start in the early spring but were delayed until recently because of the pandemic, she said.

The cost for the "maintenance" projects at the Lansing residence, which was recommended by the Michigan State Police and the state Department of Technology, Management and Budget, was about $1.1 million, Brown said.

"As a matter of practice, were constantly reviewing security protocols and adjusting as needed," said Shanon Banner, spokeswoman for the Michigan State Police, in early September. "We dont comment on specific threats against the governor nor do we provide information about security measures."

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ThunderTrain
10/08/20 11:45:25 AM
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"But its the protesters that are the violent ones!" the conservatives screech

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VonOrdelia
10/08/20 11:48:45 AM
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Turbam
10/08/20 11:49:15 AM
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Isn't she the thick mommy governor?

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Eliza3
10/08/20 11:49:41 AM
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Trump enables this shit

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ScazarMeltex
10/08/20 11:51:23 AM
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This is the sort of sectarian violence that you have to look forward to regardless of who wins the election. This will not be the last of this sort of shit, and certainly will not be the worst.

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Shadowplay
10/08/20 11:52:30 AM
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And I guarantee you that all of them are fat, dressed like shit, and have beards.

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Were_Wyrm
10/08/20 11:53:09 AM
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Did someone toss their coors light in the harbor or something?

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10/08/20 11:54:07 AM
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Theyre trying to move up from taking over a forest building

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FursonaNonGrata
10/08/20 11:55:32 AM
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Shadowplay posted...
And I guarantee you that all of them are fat, dressed like shit, and have beards.

They also own large stockpiles of deadly weapons, so they need to be taken seriously. A bullet fired by a fat person is just as deadly as one fired by a physically fit person.

Like Scazar said, this shit isnt going away just because Biden wins an election. These people are real and theyre dangerous. Its time to find ways to stop them that are better than haha theyre fat. Im not calling you out specifically, just using your post to speak my piece.

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Sackgurl
10/08/20 11:56:26 AM
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the term for these people is 'nazis', and it's important to remember that the only good nazi is a dead nazi

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Poop2
10/08/20 11:58:53 AM
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ThunderTrain posted...
"But its the protesters that are the violent ones!" the conservatives screech
this so hard

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Bio1590
10/08/20 12:02:13 PM
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Alright time for the Feds to crackdown on this shit nation-wide.
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Bad_Karma
10/08/20 12:02:58 PM
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Sackgurl posted...
the term for these people is 'nazis', and it's important to remember that the only good nazi is a dead nazi

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trappedunderice
10/08/20 12:04:20 PM
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Turbam posted...
Isn't she the thick mommy governor?
Yes, she's quite a milf.

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ScazarMeltex
10/08/20 12:10:09 PM
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FursonaNonGrata posted...
They also own large stockpiles of deadly weapons, so they need to be taken seriously. A bullet fired by a fat person is just as deadly as one fired by a physically fit person.

Like Scazar said, this shit isnt going away just because Biden wins an election. These people are real and theyre dangerous. Its time to find ways to stop them that are better than haha theyre fat. Im not calling you out specifically, just using your post to speak my piece.
This. I cannot stress enough that if you are a minority of any sort that now would be a good time to buy some sort of firearm to defend yourself. Learn to use it, talk to your family, friends, neighbors about community defense and mutual aid. Join whatever gun organization you can find other than the NRA (which gives zero fucks about minorities or their rights), something like the SRA, The John Brown Gun Club, The Fred Hampton Gun Club. Search around, there are left leaning and/or minority focused shooting organizations out there. Best case scenario, things calm down and you'll be trained and have allies should shit go bad again. Worst case scenario, you will know how to defend yourself and will have friends and allies to help you.

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Shadowplay
10/08/20 12:10:53 PM
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FursonaNonGrata posted...
They also own large stockpiles of deadly weapons, so they need to be taken seriously. A bullet fired by a fat person is just as deadly as one fired by a physically fit person.

Like Scazar said, this shit isnt going away just because Biden wins an election. These people are real and theyre dangerous. Its time to find ways to stop them that are better than haha theyre fat. Im not calling you out specifically, just using your post to speak my piece.
Oh, no, I'm not doubting how dangerous they are or how the threat needs to be taken seriously. It's just that these people always look exactly the same.

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JuanCarlos1
10/08/20 12:14:19 PM
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Sad thing is that if it came true...Trump would be in favor only to be reeled back by the adults.

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Son Of Spam
10/08/20 12:17:29 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
This. I cannot stress enough that if you are a minority of any sort that now would be a good time to buy some sort of firearm to defend yourself. Learn to use it, talk to your family, friends, neighbors about community defense and mutual aid. Join whatever gun organization you can find other than the NRA (which gives zero fucks about minorities or their rights), something like the SRA, The John Brown Gun Club, The Fred Hampton Gun Club. Search around, there are left leaning and/or minority focused shooting organizations out there. Best case scenario, things calm down and you'll be trained and have allies should shit go bad again. Worst case scenario, you will know how to defend yourself and will have friends and allies to help you.
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Machete
10/08/20 12:48:12 PM
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They specifically mentioned tyrants, but I don't understand. Isn't this governer anti-donald, not pro-donald?
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Ruvan22
10/08/20 12:51:10 PM
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Machete posted...
They specifically mentioned tyrants, but I don't understand. Isn't this governer anti-donald, not pro-donald?
Yes, but she had mask mandates and business closings, so... she's a tyrant?
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CyricZ
10/08/20 12:52:47 PM
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Well y'know it's good to see the FBI has so much to keep them busy.

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Unsugarized_Foo
10/08/20 12:52:58 PM
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Machete posted...
They specifically mentioned tyrants, but I don't understand. Isn't this governer anti-donald, not pro-donald?

Tyrants don't need to get along with each other

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Frisk
10/08/20 12:53:23 PM
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Trumps America

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thronedfire2
10/08/20 12:54:03 PM
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Nothing wrong with letting a bunch of armed people storm the state building though

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DarthAragorn
10/08/20 1:11:31 PM
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Very fine people on both sides
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ThunderTrain
10/08/20 1:28:08 PM
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Is the MAGA board talking about this yet?

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VonOrdelia
10/08/20 1:28:40 PM
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ThunderTrain posted...
Is the MAGA board talking about this yet?
They probably ban anyone who does

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au_gold
10/08/20 1:28:51 PM
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Im glad Mama Whitmer is okay.

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Lost_All_Senses
10/08/20 1:30:29 PM
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The government was coming at her for being strict about Covid safety protocols. I wonder if that made this person feel like that was a sign to do this. Supporting his government

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Solar_Crimson
10/08/20 3:43:14 PM
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Machete posted...
They specifically mentioned tyrants, but I don't understand. Isn't this governer anti-donald, not pro-donald?
There were right-wing loons protesting at the capital due to her mask mandates, even chanting to "lock her up".

Logic left these people long ago.

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PrettyBoyFloyd
10/08/20 3:46:13 PM
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Sounds like some IRA shit will start going down.

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Solar_Crimson
10/08/20 3:56:22 PM
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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
Sounds like some IRA shit will start going down.
Yep. Between this and that guy threatening an all-out war if Biden win, we're looking at the perfect storm of right-wing mass terrorism if Biden wins.

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Lordgold666
10/08/20 3:56:50 PM
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Ffs

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Antifar
10/08/20 3:59:16 PM
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You can call these guys stupid all you want, but I can see why it'd be hard for a group of white supremacists to discern which one of them was on duty and undercover.
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KStateKing17
10/08/20 4:17:04 PM
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These bastards absolutely need to be taken seriously. There are people in this country that salivate at the idea of another civil war and the chance to kill off minorities and liberals in the name of patriotism. They organize through social media too, some being smart enough to convince the others to communicate offline so they don't get flagged.

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Lordgold666
10/08/20 4:20:48 PM
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This clown listens to periphery and hate eternal lol

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Southernfatman
10/08/20 4:25:50 PM
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FursonaNonGrata posted...
They also own large stockpiles of deadly weapons, so they need to be taken seriously. A bullet fired by a fat person is just as deadly as one fired by a physically fit person.

Like Scazar said, this shit isnt going away just because Biden wins an election. These people are real and theyre dangerous. Its time to find ways to stop them that are better than haha theyre fat. Im not calling you out specifically, just using your post to speak my piece.

This. They're terrorists and we need to take this shit seriously.

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ThunderTrain
10/08/20 4:31:11 PM
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I've seen comments from right wingers say that this was made up by the left in order to make Trump look bad before the election and that the "deep state" is involved.

We're fucked as a country.

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Zeus
10/08/20 4:32:06 PM
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ThunderTrain posted...
"But its the protesters that are the violent ones!"

And remind me again how many people were injured during this non-event that never happened and likely never would have happened? You can compare that to the people killed during the protests, the countless people injured in the protests, and the buildings destroyed in the protests. The "militia" were a handful of basement-dwellers trying to talk tough, while the real destruction is being done by the groups who are out in the streets.

While the glorified D&D players probably never posed any real danger, it's still probably for the best that they were arrested because you can't have people making threats. Now if only law enforcement could actually arrest the people actually destroying shit and restore order to Michigan so crackpots don't see the lawlessness as an invitation to think about doing something themselves.

KStateKing17 posted...
These bastards absolutely need to be taken seriously. There are people in this country that salivate at the idea of another civil war and the chance to kill off minorities and liberals in the name of patriotism. They organize through social media too, some being smart enough to convince the others to communicate offline so they don't get flagged.

They're losers who don't have the balls to do anything they talk about. Meanwhile you have actual people on the streets destroying things, injuring people, and some people have even been killed. But when you focus all of your attention on crackpots instead of actual violence, you tend to get a lot of actual violence. But hey, here's a novel idea: Why not arrest BOTH of them? There's no reason why you can't arrest people making threats against government and people who, among other things, have literally destroyed government property.

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10/08/20 4:32:28 PM
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Zeus posted...
And remind me again how many people were injured during this non-event that never happened and likely never would have happened? You can compare that to the people killed during the protests, the countless people injured in the protests, and the buildings destroyed in the protests. The "militia" were a handful of basement-dwellers trying to talk tough, while the real destruction is being done by the groups who are out in the streets.

While the glorified D&D players probably never posed any real danger, it's still probably for the best that they were arrested because you can't have people making threats. Now if only law enforcement could actually arrest the people actually destroying shit and restore order to Michigan so crackpots don't see the lawlessness as an invitation to think about doing something themselves.

They're losers who don't have the balls to do anything they talk about. Meanwhile you have actual people on the streets destroying things, injuring people, and some people have even been killed. But when you focus all of your attention on crackpots instead of actual violence, you tend to get a lot of actual violence. But hey, here's a novel idea: Why not arrest BOTH of them? There's no reason why you can't arrest people making threats against government and people who, among other things, have literally destroyed government property.
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Zero_Destroyer
10/08/20 4:34:46 PM
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Zeus posted...
And remind me again how many people were injured during this non-event that never happened and likely never would have happened? You can compare that to the people killed during the protests, the countless people injured in the protests, and the buildings destroyed in the protests. The "militia" were a handful of basement-dwellers trying to talk tough, while the real destruction is being done by the groups who are out in the streets.

While the glorified D&D players probably never posed any real danger, it's still probably for the best that they were arrested because you can't have people making threats. Now if only law enforcement could actually arrest the people actually destroying shit and restore order to Michigan so crackpots don't see the lawlessness as an invitation to think about doing something themselves.

They're losers who don't have the balls to do anything they talk about. Meanwhile you have actual people on the streets destroying things, injuring people, and some people have even been killed. But when you focus all of your attention on crackpots instead of actual violence, you tend to get a lot of actual violence. But hey, here's a novel idea: Why not arrest BOTH of them? There's no reason why you can't arrest people making threats against government and people who, among other things, have literally destroyed government property.


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THE RISING SPECTER OF TERRORISM
Our data suggest that right-wing extremists pose the most significant terrorism threat to the United States, based on annual terrorist events and fatalities. Over the next year, the threat of terrorism in the United States will likely increase based on several factors, such as the November 2020 presidential election and the response to the Covid-19 crisis. These factors are not the cause of terrorism, but they are events and developments likely to fuel anger and be co-opted by a small minority of extremists as a pretext for violence.





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10/08/20 4:35:15 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Tyrants don't need to get along with each other

You can kindly shut the fuck up, please. Go peddle your papers elsewhere.


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Cornhuskers
10/08/20 4:37:52 PM
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VonOrdelia posted...
This is terrifying

https://www.fbi.gov/about/mission

That's why the FBI exists.
To stop domestic terrorism and foreign intervention/ hacking/ hijacking of banks. Stop racketeering, kidnapping plots, money laundering, a whole bunch of stuff.
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CM_Ponch
10/08/20 4:45:59 PM
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ScazarMeltex
10/08/20 4:50:47 PM
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Lol at this guy going to bat for Neo-Nazi terrorists. Literally "bbbbbuttt BLM and ANTEEFA". Get the fuck out of here, literally every statement you made is bullshit and disproven by the links I'm sure you won't read.

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kyujo
10/08/20 5:06:29 PM
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Saw this earlier at work, surprised how little there is on it here
Glad they were able to stop it, hopefully they're equipped for more

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