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Garioshi
10/06/20 5:10:42 PM
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Game completely falls off a cliff after you finish the first 7 shines in each world.

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Smashingpmkns
10/06/20 5:14:08 PM
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DoctorPiranha3
10/06/20 5:14:53 PM
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It's still one of my favorite games of all time, but does suck to hear how it was so rushed and that there was a lot of cut content.
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NeonOctopus
10/06/20 5:22:36 PM
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DoctorPiranha3 posted...
It's still one of my favorite games of all time, but does suck to hear how it was so rushed and that there was a lot of cut content.
Can you elaborate on this?

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DoctorPiranha3
10/06/20 5:26:27 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Can you elaborate on this?
There's data for 5 or so cut levels. Also, Pinna Park was initially going to be part of Delfino Plaza, but they made it its own world.

I think Nintendo admitted they rushed it to meet release deadlines.
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Doe
10/06/20 5:29:21 PM
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The First 7 shines in each world would be like 90% of the game

In reality the game is unloaded. The first three minutes are great as you shmoove all over the place with Mario's extremely fluid movement and high, long, quick jumps. Then you watch 10 minutes of cutscene. It's all downhill from there. The collision detection is terrible everywhere throughout the game, there are tons of blatantly unfinished levels or mechanics like the watermelon festival. It weighs down on your very soul over time. Jerma985 streamed the game and you can really watch what it does to him in real time

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DavidZ2844
10/06/20 5:30:00 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Super Mario 64

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Tyranthraxus
10/06/20 5:30:23 PM
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Having just finished 120 stars in super mario galaxy and now working on the Luigi stars, this game is also pretty front loader. There's so much attention to detail in the Good Egg Galaxy and then you keep playing and by the time you get to Gusty Garden Galaxy it's basically just a regular 2D level design except you can walk under a few rocks. Towards the end there's levels that are just a level you already played but mirrored vertically.

Honestly this just isn't a good game. It's a bunch of cool ideas that never get used to any real potential and then hamstrung by awful camera controls.

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NeonOctopus
10/06/20 5:31:35 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Honestly this just isn't a good game.
Joke post

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CRON
10/06/20 5:31:39 PM
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DoctorPiranha3 posted...
There's data for 5 or so cut levels. Also, Pinna Park was initially going to be part of Delfino Plaza, but they made it its own world.

I think Nintendo admitted they rushed it to meet release deadlines.
The game originally ran at 60fps and had a much more complex hub world than the finished product, too.

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Background_Guy
10/06/20 5:38:56 PM
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kotor 2
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Cleo_II
10/06/20 5:50:42 PM
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I quit after a few shines. I hate that game.
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Vicious_Dios
10/06/20 5:53:38 PM
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GTAIV
MGSIV

Come to mind.

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Master_Bass
10/06/20 5:54:02 PM
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Background_Guy posted...
kotor 2
Peragus is a terrible level that drags on, though, lol. I know what you're saying, though. It's a shame it was rushed and a lot was cut out from the end. The restored content mod helps.

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Damn_Underscore
10/06/20 5:54:30 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Super Mario 64

was going to say exactly this

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Evening_Dragon
10/06/20 5:54:50 PM
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To answer the topic title: Too Human.

The demo is great. I played it quite a few times.

The demo is also the entirety of the game. There is no variance beyond palette swaps in overlong levels.

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EffectAndCause
10/06/20 5:55:30 PM
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Metal Gear Solid V

Only the intro feels like a Metal Gear Solid game.

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EffectAndCause
10/06/20 5:58:04 PM
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Also Brutal Legend, once they introduce the RTS elements the game dies a quick death.

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JinGiReiChiShin
10/06/20 6:00:25 PM
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yeah, Mario Sunshine definitely shoots its load rather quickly

even the whole Shadow Mario thing is resolved after getting 10 Shines (spoiler: it's Bowser Jr.)

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berlyman101
10/06/20 6:04:27 PM
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Garioshi
10/06/20 7:23:39 PM
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Doe posted...
The First 7 shines in each world would be like 90% of the game

In reality the game is unloaded. The first three minutes are great as you shmoove all over the place with Mario's extremely fluid movement and high, long, quick jumps. Then you watch 10 minutes of cutscene. It's all downhill from there. The collision detection is terrible everywhere throughout the game, there are tons of blatantly unfinished levels or mechanics like the watermelon festival. It weighs down on your very soul over time. Jerma985 streamed the game and you can really watch what it does to him in real time
damn son

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Questionmarktarius
10/06/20 7:33:00 PM
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Xenogears
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lilORANG
10/06/20 7:33:47 PM
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Dark Souls falls off a cliff after O+S
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Garioshi
10/06/20 7:34:01 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Xenogears
"Frontloaded" implies the front half of the game was remotely good to begin with

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BakonBitz
10/06/20 7:38:06 PM
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Garioshi posted...

"Frontloaded" implies the front half of the game was remotely good to begin with

Well...wasn't it? Granted, I haven't beaten it but the game seemed to have pretty decent gameplay and worldbuilding.
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Garioshi
10/06/20 7:43:04 PM
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BakonBitz posted...
Well...wasn't it? Granted, I haven't beaten it but the game seemed to have pretty decent gameplay and worldbuilding.
Literally the most lifeless and repetitive gameplay I've ever had the mispleasure of dealing with in a JRPG. The story isn't much better, either.

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CommonJoe
10/06/20 7:44:59 PM
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Skyrim basically

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Questionmarktarius
10/06/20 8:03:14 PM
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SNES Wayne's World was so obnoxious that Nintendo Power itself ripped on reused assets.


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BuffaloRider
10/06/20 8:12:10 PM
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For all the hate that Sunshine gets, I thought it had a pretty cool gimmick in cleaning stuff up. The strong parts of the game were definitely the no FLUDD zones though.

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JinGiReiChiShin
10/06/20 8:16:19 PM
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you know, as much as I love ZAMN the game definitely gets to be a slog around the mid 20s (and there 48 levels total)

By the time you reach 20 you've pretty much seen everything other than the Spider and Tongue's Head bosses

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Garioshi
10/07/20 9:42:36 AM
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bump

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solosnake
10/07/20 9:53:21 AM
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Wind Waker was unfinished as well. Still both great games though

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