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Full Throttle 10/05/20 9:46:16 PM #1: |
Do you think government employees should be allowed to refuse service to people they don't agree with despite the law?
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The former clerk in Rowan County made headlines in 2015 when she stopped issuing marriage licenses to gay couples due to her religious objections against gay relationships The devout Christian was sued for her unconstitutional refusal to issue the licenses and was jailed for contempt when she defied orders to resume them She argued that as a government employee, a legal doctrine called qualified immunity protected her from being sued for damages by couples David Ermold and David Moore as well as James Yates and William Smith Jr But it was unanimously rejected by the supreme court and now the greenlight is set to move forward with the lawsuit The prolonged legal battle involving Davis came in the wake of the 2015 landmark decision in Obergefell v Hodges which granted the right for gay couples to marry The couples said the issue was far less ambiguous whether government officials have immunity when they act in a way that they know is a breach of the law Although conservative justices, Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito Jr said they agreed with the court's decision to not take on her case, they renewed criticism of the decision saying it bypassed the democratic process and left people with religious objections to same sex marriage "in the lurch" Thomas said Davis may have been the first victims of this cavalier treatment of religion and won't be the last and said it be one thing if the recognition for same sex marriage had been adopted through the democratic process with people deciding to not provide statutory protections for religious liberty but it is another when the court forces that choice Davis switched from Democrat to Republican and ran for relection in 2018 bu lost to Democrat Elwood Caudill Jr by over 600 votes who ironically was one fo the gay men who ran against her and refused to issue a license Davis had a huge party of supporters outside when she was released from jail and said God was on her side as now she faces a civil lawsuit from the couples Do you think government christians should be allowed to deny marriage licenses to anybody they don't approve of? Kim - Grand Heifer https://i.imgur.com/szy081B.jpg https://i.imgur.com/UI4zqlv.jpg https://i.imgur.com/FwGYvIY.jpg https://i.imgur.com/91ael0o.jpg Freaks - https://i.imgur.com/dKzgH8t.jpg Couples Suing - https://i.imgur.com/PGElDx6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/f3Yb774.jpg https://i.imgur.com/np1jB6M.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ktXPeC1.jpg --- The News Will Continue...For Now call me mrduckbear, sweater monkeys. I'm an Asian Liberal. RESIST The Alt-Right ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScazarMeltex 10/05/20 9:47:51 PM #2: |
What hilarious to me about this is that when it happened the Governor was like "we are behind you, you are doing the right thing", then when it was over and she got sued they were like "you on your own bitch".
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LightningAce11 10/05/20 9:48:25 PM #3: |
This bigoted mentality needs to die out quick. Being able to sue is good, but it would be so much better if they didn't refuse them in the first place.
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monkmith 10/05/20 9:49:35 PM #4: |
sounds like a waste of time, i very much doubt she's got millions...
i vaguely remember the story. wasn't she fairly quickly fired for refusing to do her damn job? --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vicious_Dios 10/05/20 9:50:08 PM #5: |
They act as if that's the only bakery in town or something. If I went somewhere where I don't like the service, then I screw, and take my business elsewhere.
Shouldn't be that fucking difficult. --- S / K / Y / N / E Twitch/YouTube/GT: Adzeta ... Copied to Clipboard!
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monkmith 10/05/20 9:50:33 PM #6: |
Vicious_Dios posted...
They act as if that's the only bakery in town or something. If I went somewhere where I don't like the service, then I screw, and take my business elsewhere.this is about marriage licenses, not cake... that was a different case, and the backer actually won that one. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola ... Copied to Clipboard!
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crazyisgood 10/05/20 9:51:08 PM #7: |
If you can refuse to do your job in any other case and not get fired then yes they should be allowed to refuse to do their job.
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Vicious_Dios 10/05/20 9:51:28 PM #8: |
Oh, my fault.
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DD Divine 10/05/20 9:51:44 PM #9: |
Republicans- dont protest at work
also republicans - that Kim Davis is a hero for protesting at work --- while driving yesterday I saw a banana peel in the road and I instinctively swerved to miss it, thanks a lot Mario Kart. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScazarMeltex 10/05/20 9:54:11 PM #10: |
Vicious_Dios posted...
They act as if that's the only bakery in town or something. If I went somewhere where I don't like the service, then I screw, and take my business elsewhere.I mean, you should probably read the OP since this case has nothing to do with a bakery. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HighOnSolar 10/05/20 9:55:44 PM #11: |
Vicious_Dios posted...
They act as if that's the only bakery in town or something. If I went somewhere where I don't like the service, then I screw, and take my business elsewhere. lmfao --- Surf ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vicious_Dios 10/05/20 9:59:57 PM #12: |
ScazarMeltex posted...
I mean, you should probably read the OP since this case has nothing to do with a bakery. I know, I agree. That's why I acknowledged it. --- S / K / Y / N / E Twitch/YouTube/GT: Adzeta ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_HayleyWilliams 10/05/20 10:00:26 PM #13: |
Good
Be religious on your own time --- hockeybub89 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RedJackson 10/05/20 10:01:11 PM #14: |
Good
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Machete 10/05/20 10:03:53 PM #15: |
Full Throttle posted...
Former Kentucky Fried Heifer Court Clerk and Failed Republican Candidate, Kim Davis who was JAILED 5 years ago for REFUSING to issue SAME-SEX couples their marriage licenses has LOST her Supreme Court appeal and can now be personally SUED by the couples she refused and it could cost her MILLIONS!! I take serious exception to this. She is not a former heifer. She is very much a current heifer. --- Who can @ Mention me? -Nobody- "the final thing that set the mods off was a picture of two lions having sex." -boxington ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ThePieReborn 10/05/20 10:04:08 PM #16: |
It's very simple to avoid 42 USC 1983 liability. Not going to weep for the stupid.
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JuanCarlos1 10/05/20 10:06:01 PM #17: |
And wasnt she divorced like 4 times? What sanctity was she trying to protect? lmao
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Gamerguymass 10/05/20 10:06:17 PM #18: |
Seems weird that Thomas and Alito would piss and moan about gay marriage being allowed in the first place but then give the ok for her to be sued for not issuing licenses......for gay marriages.
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William_Rage 10/05/20 10:08:27 PM #19: |
I mean, if it's the law it's the law.
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monkmith 10/05/20 10:17:33 PM #20: |
Gamerguymass posted...
Seems weird that Thomas and Alito would piss and moan about gay marriage being allowed in the first place but then give the ok for her to be sued for not issuing licenses......for gay marriages.they're looking ahead, soon a new republican justice will be on the bench and they'll be able to strike that down... --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_HayleyWilliams 10/05/20 10:20:56 PM #21: |
monkmith posted...
they're looking ahead, soon a new republican justice will be on the bench and they'll be able to strike that down..."Soon, women, gay people, and non-Christians will be 2nd class citizens. And then America will have real freedom", they said burgessly --- hockeybub89 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Evening_Dragon 10/05/20 10:25:12 PM #22: |
Gamerguymass posted...
Seems weird that Thomas and Alito would piss and moan about gay marriage being allowed in the first place but then give the ok for her to be sued for not issuing licenses......for gay marriages. Weird duality of caring to uphold the law while also disagreeing with it. --- https://www.joincampaignzero.org/ Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide ... Copied to Clipboard!
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monkmith 10/05/20 10:29:00 PM #23: |
Evening_Dragon posted...
Weird duality of caring to uphold the law while also disagreeing with it.in a country that has a constitution based on the separation of church and state, we've got a lot of assholes in the government who want to shoehorn their specific sky god fanfiction back into the equation... --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Evening_Dragon 10/05/20 10:33:06 PM #24: |
monkmith posted...
in a country that has a constitution based on the separation of church and state, we've got a lot of assholes in the government who want to shoehorn their specific sky god fanfiction back into the equation... I am quite aware, and I hate and wish to prevent that from actually happening. However, it does not conflict with my statement. --- https://www.joincampaignzero.org/ Guide, it's Guide, it's that Guide ... Copied to Clipboard!
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