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Bad_Mojo
10/03/20 2:35:54 AM
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Spoiler = War arc

I keep saying that the show is terrible after Pain, but this War arc has been great so far.

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0Renegade
10/03/20 2:36:46 AM
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its cuz of all the flashbacks, parallels and side tracking that happens.


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Gwynevere
10/03/20 2:38:01 AM
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I watched it as if came out, and they put a big fat 3 month long filler arc in the middle of it

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discodancer77
10/03/20 2:39:03 AM
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0Renegade posted...
its cuz of all the flashbacks, parallels and side tracking that happens.

that and it feels kinda tacked on. The Naruto hype train was in full force so Kishimoto was forced to continue the series. A short arc wrapping all the loose ends after the Pain arc wouldve been a great way to end things, and looking back, the setup was there for it, that was obviously the plan. For reference, the War Arc is more than half the total episodes of Shippuden

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g0ldie
10/03/20 2:39:31 AM
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I didn't mind it, but I read the manga rather than watch the anime, so I'm not sure if things differed.

I did see some parts that were expanded on, though, that looked pretty cool, IMO.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
10/03/20 2:44:20 AM
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I read the manga as well so I dont know about filler... but it was waaaaay too long.

Also Ill try to say my biggest complaints without spoilers... but some outrageous out of nowhere power ups, some outrageous out of nowhere never been mentioned before in the series villains... and power scaling finally caught up to the series. Just becomes a DBZ clone, whoever can fire the biggest beam wins

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DarkChozoGhost
10/03/20 2:52:18 AM
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People just got salty.

Although the filler is absurd. I read it instead and didn't watch most of it, but literally more than half the show is filler, and a lot of it is backloaded. Anothe guy said there were 3 months of filler, but it was actually much more. One year had less than 10 canon episodes, and it came out every week

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Bad_Mojo
10/03/20 2:57:59 AM
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I guess it's because I can skip the filler and just get right into the main story.

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Gobstoppers12
10/03/20 3:10:33 AM
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Most of the people who dislike it were watching/reading it week to week. I was there...I admit it was kind of a slog for some of it, but once it gets ramped up, it ramps up hard and has some truly badass stuff.

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LordFarquad1312
10/03/20 3:11:30 AM
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Because it's like 1/3 of the series and it involves characters no one cares about for a good chunk of it.

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Gobstoppers12
10/03/20 3:12:30 AM
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I guess the big question is, "How far have you gotten?"

Because there are some parts that are slow, but they're mostly in the beginning. If you're liking the early parts, you'll probably like the latter half even more.

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Bad_Mojo
10/03/20 3:15:26 AM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
Because it's like 1/3 of the series and it involves characters no one cares about for a good chunk of it.

This hasn't been true for me at all. Like, what the fuck? I have enjoyed and cared about every single main episode so far during it.

I'm on 283, btw

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Gobstoppers12
10/03/20 3:16:50 AM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
This hasn't been true for me at all. Like, what the fuck? I have enjoyed and cared about every single main episode so far during it.
This is how I was. I'm the kind of person who gets attached to the whole story and all the characters. Not every episode has to be about the main group. Sometimes you have to remind the audience that Sai exists.

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DarkChozoGhost
10/03/20 3:17:40 AM
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Going at your own pace definitely helps. It's rough when you have to wait for the next chapter or episode. Sometimes you're hyped up for what comes next, but it takes 2 more episodes for anything to happen

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Gobstoppers12
10/03/20 3:17:40 AM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
I'm on 283, btw
You're getting pretty close to when it pops off, if I remember right.

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Gobstoppers12
10/03/20 3:18:31 AM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
Going at your own pace definitely helps. It's rough when you have to wait for the next chapter or episode. Sometimes you're hyped up for what comes next, but it takes 2 more episodes for anything to happen
It also helps when you're not hanging out on the Naruto board in between every chapter while everybody's bitching about the story and having topics about whether or not Itachi can genjutsu a literal boulder.

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Bad_Mojo
10/03/20 3:19:07 AM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
You're getting pretty close to when it pops off, if I remember right.

But it has been popping off, lol. I f'n cried again when those three had to fight Asuma

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HagenEx
10/03/20 3:20:36 AM
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Because there's a bunch of characters nobody related to, ever. Also it's quite long and has tons of filler.

Same is going on with Boruto. So many generic characters being introduced, sometimes it's like a "case of the week" thing. Something happens, they get called to some village nobody even heard of, there are some troublemakers, they deal with them, they go back to Konoha.

Rinse and repeat every few months.

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Gobstoppers12
10/03/20 3:20:56 AM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
But it has been popping off, lol. I f'n cried again when those three had to fight Asuma again
Choji is such a badass. He's one of the most underrated characters. You think he's a joke because he's the fat guy who's always eating, then he fights Jirobo in part 1 and just...fuck yeah.

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metralo
10/03/20 3:21:51 AM
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ive also been working my way through the war arc (298 rn) and its awesome. not seeing the issues so far

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Naruto_fan_42
10/03/20 3:22:50 AM
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Because everyone besides Naruto and Sasuke becomes irrelevant by the end.

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Gobstoppers12
10/03/20 3:23:22 AM
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Y'all are making me wanna rewatch Naruto. I haven't done a full watch-through since the anime ended.

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Gobstoppers12
10/03/20 3:24:03 AM
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Naruto_fan_42 posted...
Because everyone besides Naruto and Sasuke becomes irrelevant by the end.
That's just not true. Also, don't post spoilers.

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Bad_Mojo
10/03/20 3:24:32 AM
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Naruto_fan_42 posted...
Because everyone besides Naruto and Sasuke becomes irrelevant by the end.

But to me that isn't true at all. I care about a lot of the characters in this show because of how well developed they have been

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Bad_Mojo
10/03/20 3:25:30 AM
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I mean legit, I honestly believe that no show has made me cry more.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
10/03/20 3:25:53 AM
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metralo posted...
ive also been working my way through the war arc (298 rn) and its awesome. not seeing the issues so far

There is a long fuckin way to go if you are just now at Itachi showing up lol

The nostalgia battles with the resurrected fighters are probably the best part of the war arc, once you get to the final showdown against Tobi it goes down hill IMO.

I still enjoyed it though, I never agreed with the hate

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Gobstoppers12
10/03/20 3:27:12 AM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
But to me that isn't true at all. I care about a lot of the characters in this show because of how well developed they have been
People exaggerate. No matter how much the focus shifts to Naruto or Sasuke, it's never as severe as DBZ with Goku and Vegeta.

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Gobstoppers12
10/03/20 3:28:49 AM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
I mean legit, I honestly believe that no show has made me cry more.
I cried a lot watching Naruto the first time. And I still cry a lot in Part 1, especially during all the Gaara stuff. I watched Part 2 in Japanese, mostly, so there wasn't as much visceral emotion involved because I was reading rather than listening...but still, it's got so much good stuff.

Naruto is my favorite anime series of all time. That's why it's in my sig.

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Naruto_fan_42
10/03/20 3:29:51 AM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
I mean legit, I honestly believe that no show has made me cry more.
What did you cry hardest at? Its always different, for me it was Rock Lees... everything.

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Scotty_Rogers
10/03/20 3:31:13 AM
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It's full of asspulls, retcons, padding, plotholes, logical inconsistencies, plot induced stupidity, wasted characters, power creep, etc.

So just your average Shonen. If you just like flashy shit devoid of substance, then you'll enjoy this arc.

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legendarylemur
10/03/20 3:33:17 AM
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Watching like a highlight reel of the war arc is not so bad, but yeah just watching it all is a ton of posturing and nonsense. But I'd say some of the more quality scenes have come out of it, like Might Guy's battle, and most of Kakashi's scenes were really good

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Gobstoppers12
10/03/20 3:34:54 AM
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Reminder to be careful of spoilers. Nothing beats some of the twists and turns of the war arc when you don't see them coming.

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Bad_Mojo
10/03/20 3:43:58 AM
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Naruto_fan_42 posted...
What did you cry hardest at? Its always different, for me it was Rock Lees... everything.

The hardest?I have no idea. I guess maybe meeting his mom? His popsicle after Jiraiya's death was hard as well. Both of Asume's deaths hit me hard. Granny. .the old lady with the puppets, her death made me cry a lot. Especially when Naruto told her to use some of his energy to help bring him back.

OMG, don't even get me started on the brother battle and he find out the truth

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Gobstoppers12
10/03/20 3:51:13 AM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
The hardest?I have no idea
Naruto gets a bad reputation online, but it's honestly so, so fucking good. Shonen cliches notwithstanding, it's very well made. Great music, some of the best battles in anime history, a metric ton of memorable characters, a beautifully crafted world with a rich history that gives a really good picture of a society with a long, brutal period of wars, etc. etc.

I really really love it.

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