Current Events > So are gas powered cars ending?

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Since Cali announced no more sales of new gas cars in 2035?

The oil companies are not going to like this <_<

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California does a lot of stupid, fake things. Remember when they tried to say you couldn't sell guns that didn't microstamp all the shell casings with the gun's serial number, when that was not a technology that existed?

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Oh I see. That's good to know. I don't follow too much US news being a Canadian >_>

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No, just California's auto market.

15 years is a long time considering how fast technology is developing, it might not even seem like a big deal by then.

Or it doesn't work at all and they end up repealing the law. Doesn't really matter either way.

*looks at the General Motors EV1*

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My favorite CA law is the one that everything that could up your chance of getting cancer ever, even by 1/10000 of a percent, is stamped MAY CAUSE CANCER

MAY CAUSE CANCER is on meat, milk, OTC drugs, drive throughs, parking garages... but only in CA


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Thing is, gas will never go away unless they intend to buyback people's gas cars so they can get EV's. They're too prohibitively expensive for poor people.

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No, not at all. Simple answer.

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We can hope
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all this will do is hurt poor people and those living outside of major cities, it's pretty fucking scummy

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Romulox28 posted...

all this will do is hurt poor people and those living outside of major cities, it's pretty fucking scummy

are poor people the ones buying new cars?

No one will have interest in gas vehicles by then.

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BadderHare posted...

are poor people the ones buying new cars?

no, they are the ones that will not be able to afford used gasoline cars anymore because the prices will skyrocket, and its not like they can take public transportation either because of how bad the infrastructure is there

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California just knows that no humans will be left alive by 2035.

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pres_madagascar posted...

Thing is, gas will never go away unless they intend to buyback people's gas cars so they can get EV's. They're too prohibitively expensive for poor people.

as demand goes down, gas production will go down, and its cost will go up.

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Not without some major trend shifts in major governments and people's buying habits.

nemu posted...

Not without some major trend shifts in major governments and people's buying habits.

california is one of the biggest car markets in the country. when they set a standard like this it shifts the market. they're the primary reason we have such strict emissions standards on new cars after all.

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Coloradough posted...

My favorite CA law is the one that everything that could up your chance of getting cancer ever, even by 1/10000 of a percent, is stamped MAY CAUSE CANCER

MAY CAUSE CANCER is on meat, milk, OTC drugs, drive throughs, parking garages... but only in CA

I use a 6mil allen key a lot at work, whenever I have to grab a new one the package that it comes in says it may cause cancer.
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Romulox28 posted...

no, they are the ones that will not be able to afford used gasoline cars anymore because the prices will skyrocket, and its not like they can take public transportation either because of how bad the infrastructure is there

You're assuming the market isn't radically changed by then. 15 years ago no one was using smart phones. Electric cars have 15 times the market share in CA than they did a decade ago.

CA likes passing laws that fuck over poor people but we don't know if this is one of them yet.

California legislature and voter base is full of morons

this state cant even keep the power on now, how are they going to do it when everyone is forced to used EVs charging all the time?

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Only hope is for the next governor to rescind the order, but we all know that will never happen due to the peoples love for idiots.

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VTBM posted...

Only hope is for the next governor to rescind the order, but we all know that will never happen due to the peoples love for idiots.

i doubt they'll vote in a member of the regressive party.

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the Cali law is semi jumping the gun but there will be much fewer straight gas cars on the road in the 30 plus years, by the time the 2050's (hopefully) roll around much electric vehicles will be much better engineered and mass produced to the point that gas vehicles will just not be all that common.
think of it like what the cell phone is doing to landline phone communication

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Coloradough posted...

My favorite CA law is the one that everything that could up your chance of getting cancer ever, even by 1/10000 of a percent, is stamped MAY CAUSE CANCER

MAY CAUSE CANCER is on meat, milk, OTC drugs, drive throughs, parking garages... but only in CA

Proposition 65, also henceforth known as The Boy Who Cried Wolf Act
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J E S U S posted...

this state cant even keep the power on now,

Do you know why that is?
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pres_madagascar posted...

Thing is, gas will never go away unless they intend to buyback people's gas cars so they can get EV's. They're too prohibitively expensive for poor people.

Possibly not the case in 15 years

Reminder that hydrogen cars do exist and the only thing stopping us from using them is the lack of hydrogen gas stations. So if California were to really put effort into a hydrogen infrastructure then they could begin phasing out gasoline in 2035.

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BeyondWalls posted...

Reminder that hydrogen cars do exist and the only thing stopping us from using them is the lack of hydrogen gas stations. So if California were to really put effort into a hydrogen infrastructure then they could begin phasing out gasoline in 2035.

As much as I looooove the idea of hydrogen cars, hydrogen is a whole can of worms in the creation and delivery/storage

I would rather that over electric, and frankly the delivery system if electricity is in question as well...so maybe there's hope. Simple conversation for ICE vehicles to convert too

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I wish. Instead, idiots have made trucks and SUVs that they never use for more than the commute massively popular again.

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Not by 2035, maybe 2050 at the earliest to have a 90%+ penetration rate

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Yes, but not as a result of whatever California is doing

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Our economy would tank without the tax revenue we get from gas.

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That order was a great way to make it look like you're serious about something without actually having to do anything now.

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Having a pick up truck, but not using it to pick things doesn't make sense. I have a SUV which I load up the rare times otherwise I'd go back to a car. If I get a dog in the near future it would be good cause the dog can ride in the trunk which is roomy.

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monkmith posted...

as demand goes down, gas production will go down, and its cost will go up.

Poor people cannot afford brand new cars. Look at how many junkers you still see.

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