Current Events > How surprised would you be to learn Trump sabotaged wedt coast fire responses?

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RadiantAdolin
09/11/20 5:04:49 PM
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To be clear, I don't think he did. A lot of this is on global warming, but given his history I wouldn't be surprised to learn something like that. Wouldn't be the first time.
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TheGleamEyes
09/11/20 5:07:47 PM
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California sabotaged themselves by not raking the forest and relying on prisoner-criminals instead of building a legitimate fire fighting force (considering fires break out every year)
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RadiantAdolin
09/11/20 5:09:56 PM
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TheGleamEyes posted...
California sabotaged themselves by not raking the forest and relying on prisoner-criminals instead of building a legitimate fire fighting force (considering fires break out every year)
Source?
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UnholyMudcrab
09/11/20 5:10:34 PM
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TheGleamEyes posted...
California sabotaged themselves by not raking the forest and relying on prisoner-criminals instead of building a legitimate fire fighting force (considering fires break out every year)

Seven year old account with 4 months of karma parroting Trump talking points

Hmm
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nfearurspecimn
09/11/20 5:10:43 PM
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fairly surprised

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BeyondWalls
09/11/20 5:13:34 PM
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Well people are finally leaving Portland, I guess.

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RadiantAdolin
09/11/20 5:14:28 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Seven year old account with 4 months of karma parroting Trump talking points

Hmm
Why does that matter? New account here, but I've been around longer than that guy. I just closed my last account and came back.
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RadiantAdolin
09/11/20 5:16:24 PM
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BeyondWalls posted...
Well people are finally leaving Portland, I guess.
I mean, kinda. A lot have literally nowhere to go. Conditions are not good to support this large an evacuation here
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The23rdMagus
09/11/20 5:17:18 PM
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Not.

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Antifar
09/11/20 5:17:45 PM
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To the extent that his policies have worsened climate change...
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TheGleamEyes
09/11/20 6:18:55 PM
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RadiantAdolin posted...
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In many communities of the central and southern Sierra Nevada mountain range, 80 percent of trees are dead, said Ken Pimlott, former director of Cal Fire.

https://apnews.com/35fb3f554b8d499d9c77791b24696718

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) California Gov. Gavin Newsom moved Friday to bypass environmental regulations to prepare for the next wildfire season, a move he said was necessary to prevent further loss of life even as it frustrated activists in a state viewed as a national environmental leader.
California experienced two of its most destructive and deadly wildfire seasons in 2017 and 2018 and experts say climate change increases the risks. Newsom said clearing dead trees at a quick pace is essential to diminishing future threats.
Newsom is taking recommendations from the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, but one environmental group likened it to actions by Trump.
Gov. Newsom should reject the Trump approach of logging and rolling back critical environmental protections, said Shaye Wolf, climate science director for the Center for Biological Diversity.
The center and other environmental groups said focusing on retrofitting and creating defensible space around homes is more effective than thinning forests. Sierra Club California said clearing trees might create more danger by loosening soil that could lead to mudslides.
Newsoms order will apply only to 35 projects covering nearly 141 square miles (365 square kilometers) of land, allowing state fire officials to go around multiple state regulations. They include provisions of the California Environmental Quality Act, one of the nations strictest state-level regulations. Administration officials would need to give the go ahead to each individual project and its unclear exactly which regulations each individual project would forego.
Newsom said moving through the normal process would drastically slow down the states ability to act.
Some of these projects quite literally, not figuratively, could take two years to get done, or we could get them done in the next two months, he told an audience in Lake County, the site of several massive wildfires in recent years.
The union representing state firefighters praised Newsoms plan.
These circumstances are unusual, unpredictable, unseen in our lifetime, and courageous decisions that sometimes go against the political winds need to be made, said Tim Edwards, president of CAL Fire Local 2881.
Republican state Sen. Pat Bates also praised Newsom for acting with urgency ahead of the wildfire season.
I stand ready to assist the Governor with any legislative action to eliminate bureaucratic roadblocks that could slow these projects, she said in a statement.

https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/facility-locator/conservation-camps/

Conservation (Fire) Camps
The primary mission of the Conservation Camp Program is to support state, local and federal government agencies as they respond to emergencies such as fires, floods, and other natural or manmade disasters.
CDCR, in cooperation with the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (CAL FIRE) and the Los Angeles County Fire Department (LAC FIRE), jointly operates 43 conservation camps, commonly known as fire camps, located in 27 counties. All camps are minimum-security facilities and all are staffed with correctional staff.
Additional Facts
  • Overall, there are approximately 3,100 inmates working at fire camps currently. Approximately 2,200 of those are fire line-qualified inmates. In addition to inmate firefighters, camp inmates can work as support staff for the camps.


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