Current Events > Student emails me at 7PM the night before school after a 3 day weekend

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"Mr. Z did we have any homework?"

Happens every time.

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...well, did they have homework?

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monkmith posted...

...well, did they have homework?

Asking the real questions.

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monkmith posted...

...well, did they have homework?

Yes. It was announced at the beginning of Friday's lesson, announced again at the end of the lesson, and it shows up on student dashboards when they log into the online platform.

And it's just the second week of school.

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Is this gonna be on the test?

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__aCEr__ posted...

Is this gonna be on the test?

I never answer this question.

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I work with 30 year old men

I have the same issue with them.

lmao

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ZMythos posted...

I never answer this question.

I had a teacher that would say everything can be on the test so do your homework and study what we have been going over.

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ZMythos posted...

Yes. It was announced at the beginning of Friday's lesson, announced again at the end of the lesson, and it shows up on student dashboards when they log into the online platform.

And it's just the second week of school.

To be fair this is a big change from how things worked before so extra help may need to be given to forgetful or lazy students

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IfGodCouldDie posted...

I had a teacher that would say everything can be on the test so do your homework and study what we have been going over.

I don't even say that. I announce when there will be a quiz or test, and hand out a review for bigger tests.

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Cmon tc we were all shitter teenagers at one point. Give him a break. For CE.

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inloveanddeath0 posted...

To be fair this is a big change from how things worked before so extra help may need to be given to forgetful or lazy students

granted this is true, but I had this issue before virtual school

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OffTempo posted...

Cmon tc we were all shitter teenagers at one point. Give him a break. For CE.

I guess he gets a pass this time.

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OffTempo posted...

Cmon tc we were all shitter teenagers at one point. Give him a break. For CE.

Yeah but I didn't email my teachers on a school night, just didn't do it >_>

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Why did you give homework for a holiday weekend?

Tragik posted...

Why did you give homework for a holiday weekend?

What grade do you teach?

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Tragik posted...

Why did you give homework for a holiday weekend?

Real life doesn't get put on pause for the long weekend.

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I'm actually the student tc is talking about. Sorry teacher, please don't tell my parents about this.

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ZMythos posted...

granted this is true, but I had this issue before virtual school

Oh carry on

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Tragik posted...

Why did you give homework for a holiday weekend?

It's common practice?

Plus we're already on an alternating schedule where I only see a given class every other day until we return in person. They had more than enough time to do a 20 problem assignment.


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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Real life doesn't get put on pause for the long weekend.

Yeah but what does that have to do with school?

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I was kinda notorious for not doing homework. Always felt it was a waste of time.

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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Real life doesn't get put on pause for the long weekend.

Mine did
I spent all day playing videogames and shitposting on CE

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When I was in high school we didn't have email/online dashboards.. I guess the equivalent would have been calling the teacher? That thought would never have occurred to me...

SimpleMan posted...

I was kinda notorious for not doing homework. Always felt it was a waste of time.

Kinda is bs. They stuck in a room 8 hours a day and then gotta do MORE of the shit at home? Pfft

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SimpleMan posted...

I was kinda notorious for not doing homework. Always felt it was a waste of time.

It's a mixed bag of good and bad reasons.

Really it boils down to "we need reliable evidence of student learning, and this is the best we got right now"

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What do you teach?

TheRock88 posted...

What grade do you teach?

Into_The_LOL posted...

What do you teach?

HS Math

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VoightKent posted...

dude why are u a teacher
literally propagating the destruction of civilization

Hey. Fuck off.

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Homework is weird. It teaches unhealthy work habits. My job doesn't expect me to be working after I leave for the day. Why should school?

IronTusk posted...

Homework is weird. It teaches unhealthy work habits. My job doesn't expect me to be working after I leave for the day. Why should school?

I mean, lots of jobs do.

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IronTusk posted...

Homework is weird. It teaches unhealthy work habits. My job doesn't expect me to be working after I leave for the day. Why should school?

Agreed

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Oh, are you teaching online? I've never emailed a teacher during high-school lol.

By that time though, Gmail had just come out and I had an invite.

You could not have homework but have optional review problems for students to work on, but very few students would actually do those tbh...

But at the same time you would gain a lot of extra classtime not having to check homework or go over homework every day.

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IronTusk posted...

Homework is weird. It teaches unhealthy work habits. My job doesn't expect me to be working after I leave for the day. Why should school?

1. That's assuming that school should be a peripheral for work. Which, granted, many people do treat it as such, but I argue that schools should value education (which includes academics, the arts, human development/health, and social-emotional learning) more than "career readiness".
2. Homework is a means for students to practice the material learned, and provides teachers with formative assessment information about student progress.

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Into_The_LOL posted...

Oh, are you teaching online? I've never emailed a teacher during high-school lol.

By that time though, Gmail had just come out and I had an invite.

For now we're online. We're re-evaluating if we can return in-person as early as the 21st.

Damn_Underscore posted...

You could not have homework but have optional review problems for students to work on, but very few students would actually do those tbh...

But at the same time you would gain a lot of extra classtime not having to check homework or go over homework every day.

the homework is self-checking, which makes my life easier.

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ZMythos posted...

but I argue that schools should value education (which includes academics, the arts, human development/health, and social-emotional learning) more than "career readiness".

American schools are terrible at teaching career-readiness tho

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Geisterdrache posted...

I mean, lots of jobs do.

"Unhealthy work habits."

Out of curiosity, how much work was given?

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Kids are expected to go to school 35 hours a week, have a healthy social life, do hw, and have extra curriculars. Yeah, they might not be 100% organized with that going on.

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ChocoboMogALT posted...

Kids are expected to go to school 35 hours a week, have a healthy social life, do hw, and have extra curriculars. Yeah, they might not be 100% organized with that going on.

We were required by the district to have a planner specifically for recording homework assignments. With modern technology there's even *less* of an excuse since you can whip out your smart phone and plug in your homework assignment in thirty seconds on your Google Calendar before you leave for break.

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ChocoboMogALT posted...

Kids are expected to go to school 35 hours a week

I mean here it's like 17-18 hours a week right now.

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I once emailed a professor about an online assignment due the week of spring break and got it pushed back.

I knew students going to school, worked 25-30 hours a week at a job plus did extracurriculars.

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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Real life doesn't get put on pause for the long weekend.

Yes, it does, unless you work at McDonalds or something.

Get to a better school, modern pedagogical research does not support the usage of homework

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ZMythos posted...

1. That's assuming that school should be a peripheral for work. Which, granted, many people do treat it as such, but I argue that schools should value education (which includes academics, the arts, human development/health, and social-emotional learning) more than "career readiness".
2. Homework is a means for students to practice the material learned, and provides teachers with formative assessment information about student progress.

Just to be clear -- my argument is not with you, but with the education system. My mother is a teacher and i have the upmost respect for your profession.

To me, the arts, human development/health, and social-emotional learning are all a part of career readiness. I don't see them as distinct. Education can and should be valuable and applicable in a work context, soft skills in particular.

Homework doesn't offer any of this. By infringing on the child's social life and freedom to learn how they so choose, homework compartmentalizes the student applying knowledge in a real-life setting. When a student could be learning through something they actually enjoy, instead they're spending their evenings absorbing that learning is taking them away from what they would like to do -- things that are valuable in a work setting. It's anti-educational.

There's also the aspect of what homework does psychologically. It teaches children to be "good worker bees" who are always on call. This is not a healthy work habit and leads to an increase in stress and a decrease in creativity and innovation in the workplace. When I hire people, I don't want drones. I want people who come up with creative solutions. Instead what's coming out of schools now is often a lot of stressed, work-addicted young adults and it makes me sad:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2014/03/13/homework-hurts-high-achieving-students-study-says/

Homework also disproportionality benefits children with rich, highly-educated, and/or happily married parents, who already have advantages. I understand that you're forced to assess the student but how can you be sure you're assessing them and not their parent's aid on the assignment? Is a poor student whose single mother works 3 low-paying jobs and gets home at 11 pm given the same expectations as the rich student with the live-in nanny and the full-time mom with a Master's degree? That's not a level playing field and challenges the idea of our education system as a meritocracy.

I know you're just doing your job (and likely have a lot of homework too!) but there's so much toxic and biased about how we evaluate kids and their education.

IronTusk posted...

Homework also disproportionality benefits children with rich, highly-educated, and/or happily married parents, who already have advantages.

Yeah. but what doesn't?

Why would you assign homework over a holiday weekend?
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