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CableZL 08/27/20 12:17:48 PM #51: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
So if you cross state lines with an illegal fire arm people can just start assaulting you and you shouldn't be allowed to defend yourself? He could be a scumbag in every way imaginable, but he had reason to defend himself. This is so f***ing clear cut.You have a right to defend yourself, but as a minor, you don't have a right to possess a firearm. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alucard188 08/27/20 12:17:59 PM #52: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
So if you cross state lines with an illegal fire arm people can just start assaulting you and you shouldn't be allowed to defend yourself? He could be a scumbag in every way imaginable, but he had reason to defend himself. This is so fucking clear cut. Swarming a gunman because he opened fire on a person prior to it isn't self-defense. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StarReaper13 08/27/20 12:18:46 PM #54: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
So if you cross state lines with an illegal fire arm people can just start assaulting you and you shouldn't be allowed to defend yourself? He could be a scumbag in every way imaginable, but he had reason to defend himself. This is so fucking clear cut.Doesn't matter when he shouldn't have had a fire arm or been there in the first place. He put himself in that situation knowingly. He brought a firearm he illegally had. Fam_Fam posted... women never go out, rape doesn't happen.Are you seriously comparing what his situation to rape? --- Ignore when people say that the title length is not important, that a title should just convey what the game is about. They're just jealous theirs isn't as long ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BeyondWalls 08/27/20 12:19:01 PM #55: |
lordofmud posted...
Once you establish that he's in the commission of crime self defense goes out the window. A burglar can't claim that he was attacked by the guy whose house he was in. Killed him, then claim self defense. --- END OF LINE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MARKINGRAM22 08/27/20 12:19:09 PM #56: |
Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
dude never crosses state lines with a firearm, none of this happenspeople never start lighting a city and assaulting innocent people and this never happens. You can play this game all day. Feel free to charge him for having an illegal fire arm, but he had reason to defend himself from the people who initiated the violence. /topic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tired-Insomniac 08/27/20 12:19:24 PM #57: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
So now having a criminal record matters... Woosh --- "I like turtles" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ving_Rhames 08/27/20 12:19:24 PM #58: |
Fam_Fam posted...
women never go out, rape doesn't happen. Women going out isn't illegal. --- the real Irving Rameses https://imgur.com/A7f6F9h ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 08/27/20 12:19:42 PM #59: |
Fam_Fam posted...
women never go out, rape doesn't happen. Yes, because rape can happen even if a woman doesn't go out. Not really a great comparison. A woman going out isn't comparable to someone illegally possessing a firearm and crossing state lines with it. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 08/27/20 12:20:04 PM #60: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
So now having a criminal record matters... Within the context of gun violence? Sure. This isn't a man dying under a knee by supposed public protectors. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fam_Fam 08/27/20 12:20:09 PM #61: |
Ving_Rhames posted...
Women going out isn't illegal. so what? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Weezy_Tha_Don 08/27/20 12:20:37 PM #62: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
So if you cross state lines with an illegal fire arm people can just start assaulting you and you shouldn't be allowed to defend yourself? He could be a scumbag in every way imaginable, but he had reason to defend himself. This is so fucking clear cut. i think youre missing the point, guy. he went there looking for trouble. answer me this. would YOU cross state lines with an illegal firearm? no, because I assume youre not a fucking idiot. or maybe you are, idk --- https://imgur.com/hwZyGuA - courtesy of the homie United_World I speak my mind, cause biting my tongue hurts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fam_Fam 08/27/20 12:20:38 PM #63: |
CableZL posted...
Yes, because rape can happen even if a woman doesn't go out. Not really a great comparison. A woman going out isn't comparable to someone illegally possessing a firearm and crossing state lines with it. and people can illegally carry guns without being assaulted. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StarReaper13 08/27/20 12:20:53 PM #64: |
Fam_Fam posted...
so what?Kid broke the law. Not comparable to rape. --- Ignore when people say that the title length is not important, that a title should just convey what the game is about. They're just jealous theirs isn't as long ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MARKINGRAM22 08/27/20 12:20:55 PM #65: |
StarReaper13 posted...
Doesn't matter when he shouldn't have had a fire arm or been there in the first place.So why did he not have a right to be there, but they had a right to burn a city and assault people? Just cause you have an illegal fire arm doesn't mean you have to let someone fucking assault you. When has that ever been a precedent? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fam_Fam 08/27/20 12:21:17 PM #66: |
Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
i think youre missing the point, guy. he went there looking for trouble. "looking for trouble" =/= forfeiting your rights ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 08/27/20 12:21:37 PM #67: |
Fam_Fam posted...
and people can illegally carry guns without being assaulted. Correct, but people don't attack others just because they're carrying guns illegally. People do rape others just because they're women, though. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 08/27/20 12:21:53 PM #68: |
Fam_Fam posted...
women never go out, rape doesn't happen. Are you suggesting the Kenosha protestors would leave the city and state and attack this guy in his own house? --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fam_Fam 08/27/20 12:21:57 PM #69: |
StarReaper13 posted...
Kid broke the law. so breaking the law allows you to be attacked, and nullifies your right to defend yourself? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fam_Fam 08/27/20 12:22:21 PM #71: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
Are you suggesting the Kenosha protestors would leave the city and state and attack this guy in his own house? no? not sure what that has to do with anything. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 08/27/20 12:22:29 PM #72: |
Fam_Fam posted...
so breaking the law allows you to be attacked, and nullifies your right to defend yourself?He absolutely has a right to defend himself. He doesn't have a right to possess a firearm, though. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StarReaper13 08/27/20 12:22:34 PM #73: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
So why did he not have a right to be there, but they had a right to burn a city and assault people? Just cause you have an illegal fire arm doesn't mean you have to let someone fucking assault you. When has that ever been a precedent?Don't know where you got the "they had a right to burn a city" from since that's not what I said. He went somewhere he shouldn't have, broke the law, and killed someone because of it all. He had no business being there, and if he stayed home not only would he not been in any sort of danger, he wouldn't have killed someone. --- Ignore when people say that the title length is not important, that a title should just convey what the game is about. They're just jealous theirs isn't as long ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MARKINGRAM22 08/27/20 12:22:35 PM #74: |
Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
i think youre missing the point, guy. he went there looking for trouble. Yeah, and the rioters went there looking for what? Fact is they initiated the assault. All you people glamorize how violence needs to happen for change, but for someone reason the people that have violence enacted upon them aren't supposed to defend themselves? fuck that. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Weezy_Tha_Don 08/27/20 12:23:03 PM #75: |
Fam_Fam posted...
"looking for trouble" =/= forfeiting your rights what rights lol? a minor in possession of an illegal firearm crossed state lines --- https://imgur.com/hwZyGuA - courtesy of the homie United_World I speak my mind, cause biting my tongue hurts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fam_Fam 08/27/20 12:23:08 PM #76: |
CableZL posted...
He absolutely has a right to defend himself. He doesn't have a right to possess a firearm, though. I agree. he should be charged with illegally possessing a firearm. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 08/27/20 12:23:10 PM #77: |
Fam_Fam posted...
no? not sure what that has to do with anything. Weird because I'm struggling with the same problem with your dumbass rape comment. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fam_Fam 08/27/20 12:23:25 PM #78: |
Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
what rights lol? a minor in possession of an illegal firearm crossed state lines right to self-defense if you are assaulted ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tequilawhatitdo 08/27/20 12:24:03 PM #79: |
Fam_Fam posted...
women never go out, rape doesn't happen. Youre a piece of shit for posting this. --- http://www.abload.de/img/untitled-4fgojx.gif - #1 P4P Nachos = $3, Nachos con queso = $5, Champion Dos Nachos = Priceless ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 08/27/20 12:24:04 PM #80: |
Fam_Fam posted...
right to self-defense if you are assaulted His right to self defense isn't in question and it never went away. Again, though, he doesn't have a right to possess a firearm. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StarReaper13 08/27/20 12:24:16 PM #81: |
Fam_Fam posted...
so breaking the law allows you to be attacked, and nullifies your right to defend yourself?Not what I said. Rape =/= going somewhere illegally with a firearm. --- Ignore when people say that the title length is not important, that a title should just convey what the game is about. They're just jealous theirs isn't as long ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fam_Fam 08/27/20 12:24:35 PM #82: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
Weird because I'm struggling with the same problem with your dumbass rape comment. the logic presented was that not taking certain actions prevents victimization, so you should not take that action, and the problem would not have occurred. i agree it is stupid. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alucard188 08/27/20 12:24:36 PM #83: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
people never start lighting a city and assaulting innocent people and this never happens. You can play this game all day. Feel free to charge him for having an illegal fire arm, but he had reason to defend himself from the people who initiated the violence. Cops don't shoot and kill suspects for resisting arrest, protests don't happen. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_School 08/27/20 12:24:57 PM #84: |
Tired-Insomniac posted...
Let's not forget he has a criminal record involving shit with gunsWait so we're suppose to ignore Jacob Blake's prior convictions because they're irrelevant in the arrest but were suppose to pile on about Kyle's? Holy shit how can liberals even type when they're spinning so quickly? --- Can't refute the substance of the post? Ad hominem! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StarReaper13 08/27/20 12:25:16 PM #85: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
people never start lighting a city and assaulting innocent people and this never happens. You can play this game all day. Feel free to charge him for having an illegal fire arm, but he had reason to defend himself from the people who initiated the violence.If cops weren't killing people left and right none of this would have ever been an issue. Blue_School posted... Wait so we're suppose to ignore Jacob Blake's prior convictions because they're irrelevant in the arrest but were suppose to pile on about Kyle's?Jacob didn't shoot someone looking for trouble. Jacob was allegedly restrained by police but wasn't cuffed, then he was shot while they grabbed him by the shirt. Kyle was taken by the police for his safety after he shot people. But it's not that liberals are spinning, we're literally spouting back the same bullshit conservatives say in the event of someone being murdered by the police, though it's funny that conservatives always try to excuse a murder be it politically or racially charged. --- Ignore when people say that the title length is not important, that a title should just convey what the game is about. They're just jealous theirs isn't as long ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MARKINGRAM22 08/27/20 12:25:19 PM #86: |
StarReaper13 posted...
Don't know where you got the "they had a right to burn a city" from since that's not what I said. He had just as much right to be there as they did, and the people who assaulted him broke a worse law. I don't know when owning an illegal fire arm became a worse offense then an assault with a deadly weapon. If the fucking rioters stayed home and didn't assault anyone nothing would have happened either. Are you literally that fucking delusional that you can't even see how they put themselves in that position? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 08/27/20 12:25:42 PM #87: |
Blue_School posted...
Wait so we're suppose to ignore Jacob Blake's prior convictions because they're irrelevant in the arrest but were suppose to pile on about Kyle's? I don't think anyone is suggesting either person's criminal history means they deserved to be shot/killed. Except the part where conservatives are using Jacob Blake's prior convictions to suggest he deserved to be shot/killed. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MARKINGRAM22 08/27/20 12:26:03 PM #88: |
Alucard188 posted...
Cops don't shoot and kill suspects for resisting arrest, protests don't happen.suspects don't commit crimes and resist arrest... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tired-Insomniac 08/27/20 12:26:11 PM #89: |
Blue_School posted...
Wait so we're suppose to ignore Jacob Blake's prior convictions because they're irrelevant in the arrest but were suppose to pile on about Kyle's? Woooooosh --- "I like turtles" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fam_Fam 08/27/20 12:26:12 PM #90: |
StarReaper13 posted...
If cops weren't killing people left and right none of this would have ever been an issue. if people didn't break the law, requiring the cops to be there in the first place, then no one would be shot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Weezy_Tha_Don 08/27/20 12:26:23 PM #91: |
Fam_Fam posted...
right to self-defense if you are assaulted so youre not going to address the part where a minor crossed state lines with an illegal firearm then? k --- https://imgur.com/hwZyGuA - courtesy of the homie United_World I speak my mind, cause biting my tongue hurts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 08/27/20 12:26:27 PM #92: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
He had just as much right to be there as they did, and the people who assaulted him broke a worse law. I don't know when owning an illegal fire arm became a worse offense then an assault with a deadly weapon. If the fucking rioters stayed home and didn't assault anyone nothing would have happened either. Are you literally that fucking delusional that you can't even see how they put themselves in that position? Do we even know if the guy with the pistol that got shot in the arm was from that state or in legal possession of that firearm? Because according to the analysis he was the one that fired first when they were chasing this kid down. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 08/27/20 12:26:53 PM #93: |
StarReaper13 posted...
He was crossing state lines with a firearm he wasn't legally allowed to have. Wut? They're not comparable at all. Crossing state lines with an illegal firearm is illegal. Walking in your own neighborhood with a legal firearm then someone attacks you is not. $500 says you know absolutely nothing about the Zimmerman case other than some bullshit you read on facebook --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KombatBawb 08/27/20 12:26:56 PM #94: |
CableZL posted...
You have a right to defend yourself, but as a minor, you don't have a right to possess a firearm. Armchair lawyer lmao --- no PWNED ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fam_Fam 08/27/20 12:26:58 PM #95: |
Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
so youre not going to address the part where a minor crossed state lines with an illegal firearm then? k i did, multiple times. he should be arrested for weapons charges. he still has the right to defend himself. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YellowMustard69 08/27/20 12:27:10 PM #96: |
CableZL posted...
You have a right to defend yourself, but as a minor, you don't have a right to possess a firearm. But that doesn't mean you don't have a right to defend yourself if you do happen to possess a firearm illegally. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 08/27/20 12:27:16 PM #97: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
suspects don't commit crimes and resist arrest... Prior criminal history isn't a justification to be shot/killed. Neither is resisting arrest. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 08/27/20 12:27:46 PM #98: |
KombatBawb posted...
Armchair lawyer lmao Understanding that a minor doesn't have a right to possess a firearm doesn't make you an armchair lawyer. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 08/27/20 12:28:34 PM #100: |
YellowMustard69 posted...
But that doesn't mean you don't have a right to defend yourself if you do happen to possess a firearm illegally. I question that, but we'll see what the courts say. You can defend yourself without using said illegally possessed firearm. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 08/27/20 12:29:35 PM #101: |
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Nah I mean the left I feel is f***ing delusional on this issue, but people of both sides do say this. I mean I don't think Floyds minor s*** had anything to do with that dick putting a knee on his neck for 8 minutes, but having a large criminal record, being armed and resisting arrest definitely should play into the use of force(not to mention non lethal options were used first). It should play into the use of force, yes, but it isn't justification for what happened. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 08/27/20 12:29:47 PM #102: |
CableZL posted...
Understanding that a minor doesn't have a right to possess a firearm doesn't make you an armchair lawyer. Just so you're aware, many states don't have a legal minimum age for possessing a firearm and some have separate rules for pistols vs. Hunting rifles. So it's possible that he had a legal right to own that firearm in his home state. https://lawcenter.giffords.org/gun-laws/state-law/50-state-summaries/child-access-prevention-state-by-state/ --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StarReaper13 08/27/20 12:29:51 PM #103: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Wut?You misunderstood the point of the analogy. The people defending Kyle are the same people who defended Zimmerman in the sense the neither of them were supposed to be in the place where they killed another person, and if they stayed home as they were supposed to, they wouldn't have killed someone. MARKINGRAM22 posted... He had just as much right to be there as they did, and the people who assaulted him broke a worse law. I don't know when owning an illegal fire arm became a worse offense then an assault with a deadly weapon.If he had the right why did he travel to another state with a firearm illegally? Unlike you, I'm not assuming where the protesters and rioters came from when they may have come from Kenosha which more or less gives them more right to be there then he ever could. --- Ignore when people say that the title length is not important, that a title should just convey what the game is about. They're just jealous theirs isn't as long ... Copied to Clipboard!
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