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LordRazziel
08/15/20 3:58:07 PM
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Should the police be defunded or abolished?



Should the police be defunded or abolished?

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ThePrinceFish
08/15/20 3:59:04 PM
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The police should receive more funding for better training and better wages to attract higher quality officers.

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Duncanwii
08/15/20 3:59:27 PM
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Neither. As much as people hate them a functional police force is needed to prevent total anarchy.
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carljenk
08/15/20 3:59:54 PM
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Defunded and rebuilt without the police unions.

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OffTempo
08/15/20 3:59:59 PM
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Nope.

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TheOrgyPorgy
08/15/20 4:00:03 PM
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Defund and abolish diaper force

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monkmith
08/15/20 4:00:45 PM
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take some of their funding to pay for social workers that can respond to cases that dont need an armed hothead getting involved? maybe pair that with pulling the rug out from under the police unions and their massive amounts of lobbying money? just phrase it as breaking up another union, that should get unanimous conservative support since they hate unions...

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CyricZ
08/15/20 4:00:48 PM
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Re-examined as a concept.

But defunded is a good start.

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LordRazziel
08/15/20 4:01:37 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
The police should receive more funding for better training and better wages to attract higher quality officers.
How about moving resources from the war on drugs to training?

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Intro2Logic
08/15/20 4:04:11 PM
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If you give police departments more money for training, how many of them will use it on training like this?

https://www.insider.com/bulletproof-dave-grossman-police-trainer-teaching-officers-how-to-kill-2020-6

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nemu
08/15/20 4:06:40 PM
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Neither in the literal sense or the abstract "this is what we really mean" sense. Whatever issues exist seem mostly to be particular corrupt ecosystems that range from particular stations to the entire local government of some areas. Likely advocating for more independent investigations and thorough deep dives into the workings of problem areas would likely solve a lot of issues. It's not an across the board issue with all cops. Some states have barely any problems, while other states seem to have a bulk of the issues.
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Prismsblade
08/15/20 4:08:14 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
If you give police departments more money for training, how many of them will use it on training like this?

https://www.insider.com/bulletproof-dave-grossman-police-trainer-teaching-officers-how-to-kill-2020-6
Most? Not all criminals will go down without a fight, or sometimes alive.

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Intro2Logic
08/15/20 4:09:21 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
Most? Not all criminals will go down without a fight, or sometimes alive.
Then it seems to me that spending more money on police training will worsen the problem of police violence.

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EndOfDiscOne
08/15/20 4:09:22 PM
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Both

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Shablagoo
08/15/20 4:11:25 PM
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Becoming a police officer should require 4 years of training, and the apparatus itself should be built on providing protection and service to the community rather than keeping the lower classes from rising above their station as it is now.

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Prismsblade
08/15/20 4:24:21 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
Then it seems to me that spending more money on police training will worsen the problem of police violence.
Looking at what's becoming of major citys like Chicago and NY if I was in charge I'd be giving them unlimited money, and resources.

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Intro2Logic
08/15/20 4:29:18 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
Looking at what's becoming of major citys like Chicago and NY
NY is like the safest major city in the country.

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hockeybub89
08/15/20 4:47:15 PM
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You don't have a human right to police officers. Abolish and defund.

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Blue_Dream87
08/15/20 4:48:15 PM
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Abolished & replaced. Fire every cop, only rehire ones with a spotless record. Every other cop is barred from law enforcement for life.

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AlephZero
08/15/20 4:49:41 PM
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Abolish the police, communities can police themselves.

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LordRazziel
08/15/20 5:21:50 PM
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AlephZero posted...
Abolish the police, communities can police themselves.
Say, a woman accused her husband of hitting her, what does the community do?
@AlephZero

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bloodyarts
08/15/20 5:31:06 PM
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AlephZero posted...
Abolish the police, communities can police themselves.
Trolling.
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Flauros
08/15/20 5:40:29 PM
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Master_Bass
08/15/20 5:42:55 PM
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We're not ready for abolishment under our current socioeconomic system.

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averagejoel
08/15/20 6:02:32 PM
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Master_Bass posted...
We're not ready for abolishment under our current socioeconomic system.
the purpose of the police is to protect the current socioeconomic system

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KnightofShikari
08/15/20 6:15:22 PM
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complete restructuring with a hard look at mitigating the protections that the police have so they don't go unpunished for their crimes, as well as creating a mandatory licensing requirement so that police can actually lose their job and not just hop over to the next town and continue committing crimes

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Dark_Spiret
08/15/20 6:20:13 PM
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restructure. better training with better pay with more liability and less militarization.
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