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Zeeak4444 08/12/20 1:01:58 AM #51:	HiddenRoar posted... Regardless of ideology, most Democrats seeking their partys presidential nomination have been treading cautiously on China. An August poll released by the Pew Research Center *showed 60% of Americans had a negative view of China, up from 47% in 2018, a sign that Trumps China-bashing is having an effect.* Indeed, Trumps insurgent 2016 campaign was powered in part by animus toward China and pledges to confront the Asian power. Trump exposed raw feelings about globalisation and free trade held by many voters who witnessed U.S. factory jobs vanish and local economies stagnate. In doing so, he co-opted a position long held by progressives such as Sanders and Warren that globalisation had benefited multinational corporations at the expense of U.S. workers. *Trump stole everybodys thunder on the issue,* Bernstein said. Warrens recently released trade plan is not centered on tariffs. But as president, she would not support any trade deal with a nation that did not meet a host of environmental, labor and human rights criteria, a set of standards the United States itself does not yet meet and would likely exclude developing nations. *There is no doubt the public is ready for an anti-China message.* But it has to be a smart, strategic message, said Scott Lincicome, a trade policy expert at the CATO Institute, which supports free trade. *Otherwise, he said: They are ceding the turf to Trump.* In that regard, it has not been easy for Democrats to establish their separate identities. The Sanders-Warren message on trade at the Joe Voter level is indistinguishable from Trumps, Lincicome said. https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/04/21/u-s-views-of-china-increasingly-negative-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/ *Since President Donald Trump took office in 2017, his approach to U.S.-China relations has included increased pressure via tariffs and trade war rhetoric*, and now, with the onset of an unprecedented pandemic, the stage has been set for both sides to cast aspersions on the other. Against this backdrop, negative views of China have continued to grow, according to a new Pew Research Center survey of Americans conducted in March. Roughly two-thirds now say they have an unfavorable view of China, the most negative rating for the country since the Center began asking the question in 2005, and up nearly 20 percentage points since the start of the Trump administration. Positive views of Chinas leader, President Xi Jinping, are also at historically low levels. As the economies of both China and the United States struggle with the impact of the current pandemic, more Americans now see the U.S. as the worlds leading economic power than at any time over the past 12 years. In fact, Americans now see the U.S. as more of an economic powerhouse than China by roughly two-to-one (59% vs. 30%). Americans also overwhelmingly believe their country leads the world militarily and that the world is better off with U.S. leadership as opposed to that of China. In some ways, this is a partisan story. Republicans continue to be more wary of China than Democrats across many questions in this report. Nearly three-quarters of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents see China unfavorably, compared with roughly six-in-ten Democrats and Democratic leaners.They are also more worried about China when it comes to cybersecurity and economic issues such as job losses to China and the trade imbalance. Republicans are more likely than Democrats to see the United States outpacing China as the worlds leading economic power as well as the worlds top military. And GOP supporters almost universally say it is better that the world be led by the U.S. Still, negative views of China increased slightly among Democrats this year, so partisans of both stripes are now largely negative toward the superpower. In fact, after seeing large increases in negative views of China from 2018 to 2019, both parties registered their most unfavorable opinions to date in 2020. These are among the findings of a new survey by Pew Research Center, conducted March 3 to 29, 2020, among 1,000 adults in the U.S. The survey also finds that younger people, who have historically been more positive than older Americans toward China, now increasingly hold negative views of the country and are more prone to see it as a threat to the U.S. than in previous years. Older Americans, however, still take a more negative stance than their younger compatriots on most aspects of the U.S.-China relationship. Basically if you're a Democrat, you're more likely to be more sympathetic to China, as we see in this topic with certain left leaning users. so no mention of the Hong Kong protests influencing the younger voters. No mention of what actually happened with the Tariffs, and instead of focusing on Trumps comments on China, the crux of my post, you decided to talk about some irrelevant shit that you think youre teaching me, I guess. so like, do you support trumps statements on China? Its a simple ass question. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:943281262] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>HiddenRoar posted... </cite> <quote>Regardless of ideology, most Democrats seeking their partys presidential nomination have been treading cautiously on China. An August poll released by the Pew Research Center showed 60% of Americans had a negative view of China, up from 47% in 2018, a sign that Trumps China-bashing is having an effect. Indeed, Trumps insurgent 2016 campaign was powered in part by animus toward China and pledges to confront the Asian power. Trump exposed raw feelings about globalisation and free trade held by many voters who witnessed U.S. factory jobs vanish and local economies stagnate. In doing so, he co-opted a position long held by progressives such as Sanders and Warren that globalisation had benefited multinational corporations at the expense of U.S. workers. Trump stole everybodys thunder on the issue, Bernstein said. Warrens recently released trade plan is not centered on tariffs. But as president, she would not support any trade deal with a nation that did not meet a host of environmental, labor and human rights criteria, a set of standards the United States itself does not yet meet and would likely exclude developing nations. There is no doubt the public is ready for an anti-China message. But it has to be a smart, strategic message, said Scott Lincicome, a trade policy expert at the CATO Institute, which supports free trade. Otherwise, he said: They are ceding the turf to Trump. In that regard, it has not been easy for Democrats to establish their separate identities. The Sanders-Warren message on trade at the Joe Voter level is indistinguishable from Trumps, Lincicome said. https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/04/21/u-s-views-of-china-increasingly-negative-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/ Since President Donald Trump took office in 2017, his approach to U.S.-China relations has included increased pressure via tariffs and trade war rhetoric, and now, with the onset of an unprecedented pandemic, the stage has been set for both sides to cast aspersions on the other. Against this backdrop, negative views of China have continued to grow, according to a new Pew Research Center survey of Americans conducted in March. Roughly two-thirds now say they have an unfavorable view of China, the most negative rating for the country since the Center began asking the question in 2005, and up nearly 20 percentage points since the start of the Trump administration. Positive views of Chinas leader, President Xi Jinping, are also at historically low levels. As the economies of both China and the United States struggle with the impact of the current pandemic, more Americans now see the U.S. as the worlds leading economic power than at any time over the past 12 years. In fact, Americans now see the U.S. as more of an economic powerhouse than China by roughly two-to-one (59% vs. 30%). Americans also overwhelmingly believe their country leads the world militarily and that the world is better off with U.S. leadership as opposed to that of China. In some ways, this is a partisan story. Republicans continue to be more wary of China than Democrats across many questions in this report. Nearly three-quarters of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents see China unfavorably, compared with roughly six-in-ten Democrats and Democratic leaners.They are also more worried about China when it comes to cybersecurity and economic issues such as job losses to China and the trade imbalance. Republicans are more likely than Democrats to see the United States outpacing China as the worlds leading economic power as well as the worlds top military. And GOP supporters almost universally say it is better that the world be led by the U.S. Still, negative views of China increased slightly among Democrats this year, so partisans of both stripes are now largely negative toward the superpower. In fact, after seeing large increases in negative views of China from 2018 to 2019, both parties registered their most unfavorable opinions to date in 2020. These are among the findings of a new survey by Pew Research Center, conducted March 3 to 29, 2020, among 1,000 adults in the U.S. The survey also finds that younger people, who have historically been more positive than older Americans toward China, now increasingly hold negative views of the country and are more prone to see it as a threat to the U.S. than in previous years. Older Americans, however, still take a more negative stance than their younger compatriots on most aspects of the U.S.-China relationship. Basically if you're a Democrat, you're more likely to be more sympathetic to China, as we see in this topic with certain left leaning users.</quote> so no mention of the Hong Kong protests influencing the younger voters. No mention of what actually happened with the Tariffs, and instead of focusing on Trumps comments on China, the crux of my post, you decided to talk about some irrelevant shit that you think youre teaching me, I guess. so like, do you support trumps statements on China? Its a simple ass question. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 08/12/20 1:06:22 AM #52:	Lol, I'm not about to get into the complexity of the gulf wars or mistakes made there tonight. But if you want use that as an excuse for china's behavior in the past few years, more power to you comrade. --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:943281362] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>Lol, I'm not about to get into the complexity of the gulf wars or mistakes made there tonight. But if you want use that as an excuse for china's behavior in the past few years, more power to you comrade. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 08/12/20 1:11:21 AM #53:	Solid Snake07 posted... Lol, I'm not about to get into the complexity of the gulf wars or mistakes made there tonight. But if you want use that as an excuse for china's behavior in the past few years, more power to you comrade. So my post saying specifically that it's not an excuse for either America or China's behavior is somehow an excuse because you like all the wars, bombings, coups, dictatorships, and terrorism the US supports? As I said you are no better than the people who praise China and use the US as an excuse for their bad actions. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:943281467] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>Lol, I'm not about to get into the complexity of the gulf wars or mistakes made there tonight. But if you want use that as an excuse for china's behavior in the past few years, more power to you comrade.</quote> So my post saying specifically that it's not an excuse for either America or China's behavior is somehow an excuse because you like all the wars, bombings, coups, dictatorships, and terrorism the US supports? As I said you are no better than the people who praise China and use the US as an excuse for their bad actions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 08/12/20 1:14:10 AM #54:	ssjevot posted... So my post saying specifically that it's not an excuse for either America or China's behavior is somehow an excuse because you like all the wars, bombings, coups, dictatorships, and terrorism the US supports? As I said you are no better than the people who praise China and use the US as an excuse for their bad actions. Do you prefer a world where the US or China dictates speech throughout the world? --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:943281521] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>ssjevot posted... </cite> <quote>So my post saying specifically that it's not an excuse for either America or China's behavior is somehow an excuse because you like all the wars, bombings, coups, dictatorships, and terrorism the US supports? As I said you are no better than the people who praise China and use the US as an excuse for their bad actions.</quote> Do you prefer a world where the US or China dictates speech throughout the world? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 08/12/20 1:16:53 AM #55:	Solid Snake07 posted... Do you prefer a world where the US or China dictates speech throughout the world? Neither. Again one being bad doesn't make either good. And it's not a contest on who is most bad. Is being against imperialism no matter who it comes from that controversial? You clearly can't defend the US's bad actions so your entire goal is to just make it a lesser of two evils contest. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:943281561] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>Do you prefer a world where the US or China dictates speech throughout the world?</quote> Neither. Again one being bad doesn't make either good. And it's not a contest on who is most bad. Is being against imperialism no matter who it comes from that controversial? You clearly can't defend the US's bad actions so your entire goal is to just make it a lesser of two evils contest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 08/12/20 1:22:20 AM #56:	ssjevot posted... Neither. Again one being bad doesn't make either good. And it's not a contest on who is most bad. Is being against imperialism no matter who it comes from that controversial? You clearly can't defend the US's bad actions so your entire goal is to just make it a lesser of two evils contest. Neither isn't a choice. Do you trust the us or communist China with speech rights throughout the world? --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:943281670] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>ssjevot posted... </cite> <quote>Neither. Again one being bad doesn't make either good. And it's not a contest on who is most bad. Is being against imperialism no matter who it comes from that controversial? You clearly can't defend the US's bad actions so your entire goal is to just make it a lesser of two evils contest.</quote> Neither isn't a choice. Do you trust the us or communist China with speech rights throughout the world? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HiddenRoar 08/12/20 1:25:40 AM #57:	Zeeak4444 posted... so no mention of the Hong Kong protests influencing the younger voters. No mention of what actually happened with the Tariffs, and instead of focusing on Trumps comments on China, the crux of my post, you decided to talk about some irrelevant shit that you think youre teaching me, I guess. so like, do you support trumps statements on China? Its a simple ass question. edit: even better, reading it a second time its speculation on the polling results. JFC, apparently you think Trump saying a positive comment about China (as if it was genuine) somehow cancels out the fact that he waged war against their economy. Like I guess I'm not a bad guy after all, if I said that you're the best, while simultaneously kicking you in the head. <cite>HiddenRoar posted [p:943281732] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>Zeeak4444 posted... </cite> <quote>so no mention of the Hong Kong protests influencing the younger voters. No mention of what actually happened with the Tariffs, and instead of focusing on Trumps comments on China, the crux of my post, you decided to talk about some irrelevant shit that you think youre teaching me, I guess. so like, do you support trumps statements on China? Its a simple ass question. edit: even better, reading it a second time its speculation on the polling results.</quote> JFC, apparently you think Trump saying a positive comment about China (as if it was genuine) somehow cancels out the fact that he waged war against their economy. Like I guess I'm not a bad guy after all, if I said that you're the best, while simultaneously kicking you in the head. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ColdOne666 08/12/20 1:28:25 AM #58:	pogo_rabid posted... Because people are so desperate to shit on the US and prostrate themselves in a display of guilt, they will side with the country that has modern concentration camps. --- Aussie Aussie Aussie OI OI OI! <cite>ColdOne666 posted [p:943281780] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>pogo_rabid posted... </cite> <quote>Because people are so desperate to shit on the US and prostrate themselves in a display of guilt, they will side with the country that has modern concentration camps.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 08/12/20 1:29:43 AM #59:	Solid Snake07 posted... Neither isn't a choice. Do you trust the us or communist China with speech rights throughout the world? I wasn't aware most of the world currently had their speech rights dictated by the US or China. That's a really sad case if the US empire is that strong, because there must be less than a dozen countries China is dictating speech to. It's hilarious you even think that's how black and white the world is. You either join the Chinese or American empire so pick a side! Ridiculous. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:943281816] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>Neither isn't a choice. Do you trust the us or communist China with speech rights throughout the world?</quote> I wasn't aware most of the world currently had their speech rights dictated by the US or China. That's a really sad case if the US empire is that strong, because there must be less than a dozen countries China is dictating speech to. It's hilarious you even think that's how black and white the world is. You either join the Chinese or American empire so pick a side! Ridiculous. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamenRiderBlade 08/12/20 1:42:13 AM #60:	ssjevot posted... I wasn't aware most of the world currently had their speech rights dictated by the US or China. That's a really sad case if the US empire is that strong, because there must be less than a dozen countries China is dictating speech to. It's hilarious you even think that's how black and white the world is. You either join the Chinese or American empire so pick a side! Ridiculous. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROnAfAeoceY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zs5gWjkFy0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35ITPGQLeJ4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S1pjnPpIdE It's never that simple when you're dealing with the CCP (Chinese Communist Party). They're playing the long game for CCP Hegemony over the entire world. --- Are you a MexiCAN or a MexiCAN'T - Johnny Depp '*Once Upon A Time in Mexico*' <cite>KamenRiderBlade posted [p:943282058] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>ssjevot posted... </cite> <quote>I wasn't aware most of the world currently had their speech rights dictated by the US or China. That's a really sad case if the US empire is that strong, because there must be less than a dozen countries China is dictating speech to. It's hilarious you even think that's how black and white the world is. You either join the Chinese or American empire so pick a side! Ridiculous.</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROnAfAeoceY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zs5gWjkFy0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35ITPGQLeJ4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S1pjnPpIdE It's never that simple when you're dealing with the CCP (Chinese Communist Party). They're playing the long game for CCP Hegemony over the entire world. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 08/12/20 1:46:31 AM #61:	Yes, China is bad. Remind of when I said they weren't? That doesn't mean I want either them or the US dictating my speech rights. And no corporations complying with what other countries want isn't dictating my speech rights. By that logic, China, Turkey, Israel, the US, and a whole pile of other countries dictate my speech rights because companies choose to toe the line on a number of controversial issues to sell their products there. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:943282143] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>Yes, China is bad. Remind of when I said they weren't? That doesn't mean I want either them or the US dictating my speech rights. And no corporations complying with what other countries want isn't dictating my speech rights. By that logic, China, Turkey, Israel, the US, and a whole pile of other countries dictate my speech rights because companies choose to toe the line on a number of controversial issues to sell their products there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 08/12/20 1:50:00 AM #62:	ssjevot posted... I wasn't aware most of the world currently had their speech rights dictated by the US or China. That's a really sad case if the US empire is that strong, because there must be less than a dozen countries China is dictating speech to. It's hilarious you even think that's how black and white the world is. You either join the Chinese or American empire so pick a side! Ridiculous. I'm not asking you to fully sign off on the foreign policy history of either. I'm asking you if you had to choose one or the other to lead the world into the next 100 years of history who would you choose? gun to your head you have to choose one or the other --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:943282209] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>ssjevot posted... </cite> <quote>I wasn't aware most of the world currently had their speech rights dictated by the US or China. That's a really sad case if the US empire is that strong, because there must be less than a dozen countries China is dictating speech to. It's hilarious you even think that's how black and white the world is. You either join the Chinese or American empire so pick a side! Ridiculous.</quote> I'm not asking you to fully sign off on the foreign policy history of either. I'm asking you if you had to choose one or the other to lead the world into the next 100 years of history who would you choose? gun to your head you have to choose one or the other </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_School 08/12/20 1:51:45 AM #63:	What's this have to do with me? --- Can't refute the substance of the post? Ad hominem! <cite>Blue_School posted [p:943282252] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>What's this have to do with me? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 08/12/20 1:51:45 AM #64:	Solid Snake07 posted... I'm not asking you to fully sign off on the foreign policy history of either. I'm asking you if you had to choose one or the other to lead the world into the next 100 years of history who would you choose? gun to your head you have to choose one or the other I choose wherever the location I'm at where the gun is held against my head. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:943282253] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not asking you to fully sign off on the foreign policy history of either. I'm asking you if you had to choose one or the other to lead the world into the next 100 years of history who would you choose? gun to your head you have to choose one or the other</quote> I choose wherever the location I'm at where the gun is held against my head. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kingbuffet 08/12/20 1:51:51 AM #65:	Russia is just as dangerous if not more, they actually interfered with 2016 election <cite>Kingbuffet posted [p:943282257] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>Russia is just as dangerous if not more, they actually interfered with 2016 election </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 08/12/20 1:52:57 AM #66:	Solid Snake07 posted... I'm not asking you to fully sign off on the foreign policy history of either. I'm asking you if you had to choose one or the other to lead the world into the next 100 years of history who would you choose? gun to your head you have to choose one or the other I would chose the US, but you're being disingenuous because the entire goal is to support the US good, China bad narrative you have pushed the entire topic. The US foreign policy is awful and causes untold suffering in the world. Just because I think China would probably be worse doesn't mean I support the US at all. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:943282287] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not asking you to fully sign off on the foreign policy history of either. I'm asking you if you had to choose one or the other to lead the world into the next 100 years of history who would you choose? gun to your head you have to choose one or the other</quote> I would chose the US, but you're being disingenuous because the entire goal is to support the US good, China bad narrative you have pushed the entire topic. The US foreign policy is awful and causes untold suffering in the world. Just because I think China would probably be worse doesn't mean I support the US at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 08/12/20 2:05:32 AM #67:	ssjevot posted... I would chose the US, but you're being disingenuous because the entire goal is to support the US good, China bad narrative you have pushed the entire topic. The US foreign policy is awful and causes untold suffering in the world. Just because I think China would probably be worse doesn't mean I support the US at all. It's not disingenuous, I grew up as a teen in the heat of the US gulf conflicts in the mid 2000s, had a few friends and family fight and die in those conflicts, and have done my fair share or shitting on the united states for those wars. To reduce my opinion on that to this topic that is pretty far disjointed from that is not exactly fair, no? Edit: But I do appreciate you giving a square answer to my question(even though I had to corner you to do so) --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:943282489] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>ssjevot posted... </cite> <quote>I would chose the US, but you're being disingenuous because the entire goal is to support the US good, China bad narrative you have pushed the entire topic. The US foreign policy is awful and causes untold suffering in the world. Just because I think China would probably be worse doesn't mean I support the US at all.</quote> It's not disingenuous, I grew up as a teen in the heat of the US gulf conflicts in the mid 2000s, had a few friends and family fight and die in those conflicts, and have done my fair share or shitting on the united states for those wars. To reduce my opinion on that to this topic that is pretty far disjointed from that is not exactly fair, no? Edit: But I do appreciate you giving a square answer to my question(even though I had to corner you to do so) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 08/12/20 2:42:42 AM #68:	HiddenRoar posted... JFC, apparently you think Trump saying a positive comment about China (as if it was genuine) somehow cancels out the fact that he waged war against their economy. Like I guess I'm not a bad guy after all, if I said that you're the best, while simultaneously kicking you in the head. idk why I even engage you. as for @Solid_Snake07 i like how you said lets discuss modern history then said you dont want to discuss modern history. like, you realize modern history as a term encompasses the past 200+ years right? Like, you actually do know that, right? --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:943283100] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>HiddenRoar posted... </cite> <quote>JFC, apparently you think Trump saying a positive comment about China (as if it was genuine) somehow cancels out the fact that he waged war against their economy. Like I guess I'm not a bad guy after all, if I said that you're the best, while simultaneously kicking you in the head.</quote> idk why I even engage you. as for @Solid_Snake07 i like how you said lets discuss modern history then said you dont want to discuss modern history. like, you realize modern history as a term encompasses the past 200+ years right? Like, you actually do know that, right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 08/12/20 2:53:12 AM #69:	Zeeak4444 posted... idk why I even engage you. as for @Solid_Snake07 i like how you said lets discuss modern history then said you dont want to discuss modern history. like, you realize modern history as a term encompasses the past 200+ years right? Like, you actually do know that, right? God damn, I was making the point the point that going back two decades was too convaluted. You want to go back two centuries?! Lol --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:943283250] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>Zeeak4444 posted... </cite> <quote>idk why I even engage you. as for @Solid_Snake07 i like how you said lets discuss modern history then said you dont want to discuss modern history. like, you realize modern history as a term encompasses the past 200+ years right? Like, you actually do know that, right?</quote> God damn, I was making the point the point that going back two decades was too convaluted. You want to go back two centuries?! Lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 08/12/20 3:02:30 AM #70:	Solid Snake07 posted... God damn, I was making the point the point that going back two decades was too convaluted. You want to go back two centuries?! Lol Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Lybia, all within in the past two decades, all still ongoing situations with active US involvement in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:943283378] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>God damn, I was making the point the point that going back two decades was too convaluted. You want to go back two centuries?! Lol</quote> Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Lybia, all within in the past two decades, all still ongoing situations with active US involvement in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 08/12/20 3:09:18 AM #71:	ssjevot posted... Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Lybia, all within in the past two decades, all still ongoing situations with active US involvement in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria. .....and aren't directly related to this topic I don't get the mentality here. I have to simultaneously point out every foreign policy snafu by the US within my lifetime any time I criticize China? What is the purpose of hijacking this topic towards that? --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:943283472] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>ssjevot posted... </cite> <quote>Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Lybia, all within in the past two decades, all still ongoing situations with active US involvement in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria.</quote> .....and aren't directly related to this topic I don't get the mentality here. I have to simultaneously point out every foreign policy snafu by the US within my lifetime any time I criticize China? What is the purpose of hijacking this topic towards that? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 08/12/20 3:26:26 AM #72:	Solid Snake07 posted... .....and aren't directly related to this topic I don't get the mentality here. I have to simultaneously point out every foreign policy snafu by the US within my lifetime any time I criticize China? What is the purpose of hijacking this topic towards that? No, you specifically said the US hasn't done anything bad in recent history. You brought it up. My original post simply said I think both China and the US are bad in response to someone defending China by saying the US is bad too. This apparently wasn't good enough for you because you decided to go in on me for daring to suggest the US and China were both bad instead of playing "no u" with the whataboutism crowd. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:943283722] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>.....and aren't directly related to this topic I don't get the mentality here. I have to simultaneously point out every foreign policy snafu by the US within my lifetime any time I criticize China? What is the purpose of hijacking this topic towards that?</quote> No, you specifically said the US hasn't done anything bad in recent history. You brought it up. My original post simply said I think both China and the US are bad in response to someone defending China by saying the US is bad too. This apparently wasn't good enough for you because you decided to go in on me for daring to suggest the US and China were both bad instead of playing "no u" with the whataboutism crowd. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 08/12/20 3:33:04 AM #73:	ssjevot posted... No, you specifically said the US hasn't done anything bad in recent history. You brought it up. My original post simply said I think both China and the US are bad in response to someone defending China by saying the US is bad too. This apparently wasn't good enough for you because you decided to go in on me for daring to suggest the US and China were both bad instead of playing "no u" with the whataboutism crowd. No, I just called you out on the false equivalence. Which I was able to get you to actually admit to through an unreasonable amount of probing.... --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:943283811] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>ssjevot posted... </cite> <quote>No, you specifically said the US hasn't done anything bad in recent history. You brought it up. My original post simply said I think both China and the US are bad in response to someone defending China by saying the US is bad too. This apparently wasn't good enough for you because you decided to go in on me for daring to suggest the US and China were both bad instead of playing "no u" with the whataboutism crowd.</quote> No, I just called you out on the false equivalence. Which I was able to get you to actually admit to through an unreasonable amount of probing.... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 08/12/20 4:40:45 AM #74:	ssjevot posted... Never said they're the same, said they're both bad, because they are. United States is more about stifling opposition through covert or overt violence. It's not like the invasions and coups supported by the US throughout history are classified information. If you think China bad means US good, you are no better than the people who think US bad means China good. They both do awful things and that doesn't make it okay for either. Solid Snake07 posted... Let's try to stick to modern history for relevance Your own posts contradict the new reality you're trying desperately to spin. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:943284722] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>ssjevot posted... </cite> <quote>Never said they're the same, said they're both bad, because they are. United States is more about stifling opposition through covert or overt violence. It's not like the invasions and coups supported by the US throughout history are classified information. If you think China bad means US good, you are no better than the people who think US bad means China good. They both do awful things and that doesn't make it okay for either.</quote> Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>Let's try to stick to modern history for relevance</quote> Your own posts contradict the new reality you're trying desperately to spin. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 08/12/20 4:51:28 AM #75:	Solid Snake07 posted... God damn, I was making the point the point that going back two decades was too convaluted. You want to go back two centuries?! Lol I refuse to believe youre this stupid. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:943284844] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>God damn, I was making the point the point that going back two decades was too convaluted. You want to go back two centuries?! Lol</quote> I refuse to believe youre this stupid. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 08/12/20 5:07:47 AM #76:	Zeeak4444 posted... I refuse to believe youre this stupid. To get into a historical debate about 19th, 20th, and 21st century geopolitics that most likely no one here including myself is even remotely close to qualified to speak on in an educated manner? You're absolutely right, I'm not that stupid. --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:943285053] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>Zeeak4444 posted... </cite> <quote>I refuse to believe youre this stupid.</quote> To get into a historical debate about 19th, 20th, and 21st century geopolitics that most likely no one here including myself is even remotely close to qualified to speak on in an educated manner? You're absolutely right, I'm not that stupid. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 08/12/20 10:05:47 AM #77:	Solid Snake07 posted... To get into a historical debate about 19th, 20th, and 21st century geopolitics that most likely no one here including myself is even remotely close to qualified to speak on in an educated manner? You're absolutely right, I'm not that stupid. History goes back further than 20 years, and if you want to understand how things got the way they are now you have to understand how they got there. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:943290016] in Why arent ... [t:78904749]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>To get into a historical debate about 19th, 20th, and 21st century geopolitics that most likely no one here including myself is even remotely close to qualified to speak on in an educated manner? You're absolutely right, I'm not that stupid.</quote>History goes back further than 20 years, and if you want to understand how things got the way they are now you have to understand how they got there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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