Current Events > What is the appeal of modern day rap music?

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Honestly, growing up I actually loved rap of the 80s and 90s.

Unpopular opinion, but I feel the past couple of decades (and most recently) has produced nothing but absolute trash.

Someone has never heard of chief Keef

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https://youtu.be/C5i-UnuUKUI

https://youtu.be/pgN-vvVVxMA

This generation so desperately wants another Tupac and Biggie but they're pissed they don't measure up.

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I feel like people who say stuff like this haven't really given modern rap a chance, and will continue not to do so to reaffirm their biases

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There's some good ones out there now. A lot of bad, and a lot of people doing the exact same thing, but theres still definitely some good out there.

Key Glock has become one of my favorites and it seems hes really just been around a couple years. Pop Smoke was another, rip, but damn that dude was gonna be big.

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I used to be a lyrical miracle super hip hop head in highschool (look at my user name for god sakes). Once I got into college and started really messing with girls I figured out they aren't gonna turn up to Wu-Tang lol.

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Yet, modern rap and music as a whole is being downloaded and streamed billions of times over. So for it being as trash as a lot of people say it is, lots of people are sure listening to it.

I dont get why people have to also announce that they hate something, no one asked if you prefer the rap music of today or the rap music of the 80s/90s...dont like it, dont listen.

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g0ldie posted...

I feel like people who say stuff like this haven't really given modern rap a chance, and will continue not to do so to reaffirm their biases

Yep

there is a huge variety of rap out there, youre doing a disservice to yourself by not exploring it

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My favorite rapper is Horsedick Dot M-Peg.

g0ldie posted...

I feel like people who say stuff like this haven't really given modern rap a chance, and will continue not to do so to reaffirm their biases

ding ding ding

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sounds good mang.

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What's the appeal of music anyway?

I get it, I like music from Playboi Carti and Juice World, but I wouldn't necessarily say it's deep or even good music. The biggest problem though is kids these days dont have a concept of what good rap is.

I mean even back when I was a kid I knew shit like Lil John was garbage rap music even if I did enjoy the music.

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The introduction of the SoundCloud rapper destroyed modern rap for me.

It was bad enough with the ringtone rappers of the late 00s. But there where still enough of the older rappers putting out great music to outweigh the crap artists at the time.

All the older dudes either stopped making music or they suck now, leaving us with mostly a bunch of modern weirdos.

All my opinion of course.

yo tc heres some dope stuff from the past five or so years to check out

Saba

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A6F2OrOjexs

Vince Staples

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mb6Jc4juSF8

Noname

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8DswZ0q5sJs

Chance the Rapper

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rT4wUByldo4

Freddie Gibbs

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MmvzeR2AFhA

Run the Jewels

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_DFypFVnSS0

Westside Gunn

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8uDP6zK5Da0

Earthgang

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xfjQ27hhkPY

JID

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k_TbOH8iE4U

Joey Bada$$

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=75rKK3xyoHM

Kendrick Lamar

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hRK7PVJFbS8

Danny Brown

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7L4JnAuW00k

Mozzy

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Df7hZQRJu_o

Injury Reserve

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PWQL_XORalY

Brockhampton

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n_ZRRlVDVa8


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Also for what its worth if you just want that old school sounding shit that kind of stuff is still being made too

for example the Blu and Exile album that came out a few weeks ago is great

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8Uynb-CyTUk

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Fake Names is so good...

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rap more than a lot of other genres has evolved very rapidly. People saying 80s/90s was the last good rap is akin to old people saying music hasnt been good since the 60s

not bashing you, tc, just pointing out that its changed very rapidly and that is likely why it seems so unlike the rap you grew up with/enjoy

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Exile is so good...

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Bananana posted...

rap more than a lot of other genres has evolved very rapidly. People saying 80s/90s was the last good rap is akin to old people saying music hasnt been good since the 60s

not bashing you, tc, just pointing out that its changed very rapidly and that is likely why it seems so unlike the rap you grew up with/enjoy

I disagree with this sentiment, too

we live in an era where all music ever is readily accessible to nearly everyone

what this means is, there are people who like all kinds of music, and thus all kinds of music are still being made. If you want 80s/90s sounding stuff thats new, its out there

its sort of the same as the rock world. People claim rock is dead... well no, rock is thriving right now, the good bands just arent being played on the radio stations you listen to

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TheGoldenEel posted...

Mozzy

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Df7hZQRJu_o

as someone from Sacramento, I appreciate this

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TheGoldenEel posted...

I disagree with this sentiment, too

we live in an era where all music ever is readily accessible to nearly everyone

what this means is, there are people who like all kinds of music, and thus all kinds of music are still being made. If you want 80s/90s sounding stuff thats new, its out there

its sort of the same as the rock world. People claim rock is dead... well no, rock is thriving right now, the good bands just arent being played on the radio stations you listen to

i agree with you wholeheartedly. but im assuming tc doesnt seek out much modern rap beyond what he hears on the radio/in the mainstream. and that is really the part of the genre that has evolved. and when people say the mainstream version of ___ is trash now, it means that they just dont like that evolution. to insinuate that its worse in any objective manner is pretty silly and immature.

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I don't know too much about the genre but there's definitely some really good modern hip-hop out there.

Lowkey is one of my favourites.

https://youtu.be/zvxOptlgsis
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I found myself disliking most stuff that came after Master P got super popular with the Ghetto D album. That's not to say that I didn't like anything that came out after that, just that the percentage of what I like has gone down.
I think it's mostly just that it lacks the sound I like. I prefer G-funk and hardcore and there just isn't a ton of hip-hop that sounds like that right now.

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It tends to be more about atmosphere these days. IMO, there's nothing wrong with that at all, but I understand how artists like Migos and Young Thug aren't to everyone's taste.

I recommend checking out Oddisee and Roc Marciano - they're two of my favorite examples of the old craft being kept alive. Also, while she's definitely new-school, I firmly believe Megan Thee Stallion is legit across the board.

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g0ldie posted...

I feel like people who say stuff like this haven't really given modern rap a chance, and will continue not to do so to reaffirm their biases

I've given modern rap plenty of chances. Some of it is good, but even the good shit doesn't compare to Wu-Tang, Tribe, Pharcyde, etc.

it's fine to prefer one artist over another, but if you're saying stuff like modern rap is trash, or asking what it has to offer, you've already made up your mind against anything contrary

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g0ldie posted...

I feel like people who say stuff like this haven't really given modern rap a chance, and will continue not to do so to reaffirm their biases

There is good and bad but this trend of kids first beat they made in default fruity loops and cribbing shit from nursery rhymes on xylaphone needs to end. Was kinda neat for the first 5 that did it now its an overdone trend that gets by on calling back to the innocence of childhood giving shit a bunch of artifical depth.

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gamer167 posted...

The introduction of the SoundCloud rapper destroyed modern rap for me.

It was bad enough with the ringtone rappers of the late 00s. But there where still enough of the older rappers putting out great music to outweigh the crap artists at the time.

All the older dudes either stopped making music or they suck now, leaving us with mostly a bunch of modern weirdos.

All my opinion of course.

Del has never stopped being good. :p

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TheCodeisBosco posted...

It tends to be more about atmosphere these days. IMO, there's nothing wrong with that at all, but I understand how artists like Migos and Young Thug aren't to everyone's taste.

I recommend checking out Oddisee and Roc Marciano - they're two of my favorite examples of the old craft being kept alive. Also, while she's definitely new-school, I firmly believe Megan Thee Stallion is legit across the board.

Definitely should have included more women in my above post

Lil Simz

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqmv4daiBZg

Che Noir

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t4aqEsXr_h8

Megan Thee Stallion

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n5LWsc-qCdA

Flo Milli

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=76e_EbDbFhE

Kamaiyah

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iZdvh0z8snc

Tkay Maidza

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IhWJ-wZ7S9k


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There's still plenty of good rap music being produced but you have to sort through a lot of garbage. Many people nowadays want to become rappers and it's a lot easier to make a rap song compared to other genres of music so the entry level is low. I personally know well over a dozen people from my graduating high school class making rap music and trying to earn a living by doing so even though almost all of them do not have any skill or talent. With the age of Soundcloud, I imagine it's like this with today's youth in many communities.

Now more than ever, young people are chasing the dreams of being a rapper, influencer, streamer, etc.

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"I miss when X music really meant something"

*listens to something mainstream and shallow, but older*

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weird question. Hip hop is a diverse sort of music with an lot of different genres. Which one are you asking about specifically? Or do you mean as a whole, which would be a question with an incredibly complicated lengthy answer for each

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KLouD_KoNNeCteD posted...

My favorite rapper is Horsedick Dot M-Peg.

I talked to someone about that movie the other day

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It's a lot harder to find good music among the constant crap, nowadays. It used to be you knew the mainstream, and then indie was a bit of a dig to find stuff, good or bad.

Now there's a billion soundcloud rappers that all suck, and you have to wade through them to find anything decent.

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g0ldie posted...

I feel like people who say stuff like this haven't really given modern rap a chance, and will continue not to do so to reaffirm their biases

Yup. But they usually unintentionally just make a topic for hip hop fans to chat with each other and bond over the music. So, the jokes on them.

Btw. I feel like Electronic music hasn't been good since the 90s either. I mean, I can't reference one song and I've never paid attention to it or even know if it existed in the 90s. But I still feel like my opinion might be way more valuable than the majority of people who do. I don't understand why people still make music I no longer listen to or ever did.

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Guide posted...

It's a lot harder to find good music among the constant crap, nowadays. It used to be you knew the mainstream, and then indie was a bit of a dig to find stuff, good or bad.

Now there's a billion soundcloud rappers that all suck, and you have to wade through them to find anything decent.

You don't have to listen to those rappers to listen to the other rappers, if you don't want to. You can just go straight to a different subgenre of hip hop.

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

You don't have to listen to those rappers to listen to the other rappers, if you don't want to. You can just go straight to a different subgenre of hip hop.

That's the thing, how do I know what's good or bad without listening first? I mean if I see some rainbow dreads and skittle teeth, I'll dodge it, but you never know.

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Listen to Griselda dummy. Guys hating on music from today when they only listen to three artists and call it a wrap.

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Guide posted...

That's the thing, how do I know what's good or bad without listening first? I mean if I see some rainbow dreads and skittle teeth, I'll dodge it, but you never know.

Pick a few artists you like and put them into YouTube, listen to a few songs from them and let the algorithm do the work. Click on some the artists in the recommended after that. I find all my new favorite artists through Youtube algorithm.

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

Pick a few artists you like and put them into YouTube, listen to a few songs from them and let the algorithm do the work. Click on some the artists in the recommended after that. I find all my new favorite artists through Youtube algorithm.

I actually do find a lot of good like that, just... not for rap?

I go through phases where I don't listen to rap for months, suddenly youtube recommends Biggie and it's like "oh fuck this is so good why don't i listen to more"

then I listen to all the oldhead stuff, and slightly less old stuff, and then it's like

"hey you like Immortal Technique? He's some fucking TEKASHI"

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This song is such underrated

The Kid Laroi ft Lil Tecca - Diva

https://youtu.be/ZMqhjKRUGsY

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Guide posted...

I actually do find a lot of good like that, just... not for rap?

I go through phases where I don't listen to rap for months, suddenly youtube recommends Biggie and it's like "oh fuck this is so good why don't i listen to more"

then I listen to all the oldhead stuff, and slightly less old stuff, and then it's like

"hey you like Immortal Technique? He's some fucking TEKASHI"

You might be right. I have years of gathered information. So that's probably why it knows what to give me. Overestimated it.

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give me some good new shit to more quickly adjust my machine's machines.

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They say the n-word at least a dozen times, and they talk about large bums.

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Tag, Ill give you some in a few

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Guide posted...

give me some good new shit to more quickly adjust my machine's machines.

Tyler, the Creator - November

https://youtu.be/JaXoDWSQQrk

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https://youtu.be/7-owuzH2RR0
https://youtu.be/6zhSZoML8Uc
https://youtu.be/SEKCjPpdNlk

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Guide posted...

give me some good new shit to more quickly adjust my machine's machines.

Im gonna keep updating this post for a moment. Cause my phone has a habit if resetting my browser. Just grabbing a few from my "liked" playlist.

https://youtu.be/rJP0s2eMt2M

https://youtu.be/vWaljXUiCaE

https://youtu.be/WdCW_Q2Luj4

https://youtu.be/RzTL4UUcqqo

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