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ohiostate124
08/07/20 2:25:52 PM
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RadiantAdolin posted...
Everywhere.
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Mark_DeRosa
08/07/20 2:26:26 PM
#52:


WizardPowers posted...
Being shot with a taser while inside/ operating a vehicle sounds more deadly than being shot while not driving

they had the vehicle parked and thats not what he said

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ssk9716757
08/07/20 2:26:29 PM
#53:


ohiostate124 posted...
Why would you let a criminal that took one their weapons just run away and escape?

both taser charges had already been used, it was a useless weapon

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Comfy_Pillow
08/07/20 2:27:00 PM
#54:


If he does win attitudes towards police will get worse and hopefully more will get defunded when voters hold biden/elected officials accountable

Seems like a win/win situation here
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Mark_DeRosa
08/07/20 2:27:13 PM
#55:


ssk9716757 posted...
both taser charges had already been used, it was a useless weapon
prove to me with 100 percent certainty, that they were all spent, some people carry extra cartridges clipped on, none of the ones that were. Spent were malfunctioned or attempted to use so he actually still had one. Also prove how a drive stun can not be used to disable a person.

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ThePieReborn
08/07/20 2:30:08 PM
#56:


So is it safe to assume standards and burdens of proof aren't taught?


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Mark_DeRosa
08/07/20 2:30:44 PM
#57:


ThePieReborn posted...
So is it safe to assume standards and burdens of proof aren't taught?

apparently not, thats why he was fired without just cause

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BeyondWalls
08/07/20 2:31:11 PM
#58:


RadiantAdolin posted...
It is not built around any such principle.

"Stop or I'll Shoot" is so ingrained into our law enforcement culture that it's almost a guiding principle. Find one police TV show or movie that doesn't feature the line, "stop or I'll shoot."



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ThePieReborn
08/07/20 2:33:05 PM
#59:


Mark_DeRosa posted...
apparently not, thats why he was fired without just cause
[citation needed] and the complaint doesn't qualify.


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Mark_DeRosa
08/07/20 2:33:52 PM
#60:


ThePieReborn posted...
[citation needed] and the complaint doesn't qualify.

the citation is the actual lawsuit that states he was fired without an investigation....did you even read it


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ssk9716757
08/07/20 2:34:23 PM
#61:


Mark_DeRosa posted...
prove to me with 100 percent certainty, that they were all spent, some people carry extra cartridges clipped on, none of the ones that were. Spent were malfunctioned or attempted to use so he actually still had one. Also prove how a drive stun can not be used to disable a person.

We confirmed these Taser models with the Atlanta Police. Once theyre fired twice, they must be reloaded. So at this point, Brooks is unarmed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/18/us/rayshard-brooks-police-tactics.html


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WizardPowers
08/07/20 2:34:29 PM
#62:


Comfy_Pillow posted...
If he does win attitudes towards police will get worse and hopefully more will get defunded when voters hold biden/elected officials accountable

Seems like a win/win situation here

Lol trueeeeee

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Mark_DeRosa
08/07/20 2:36:07 PM
#63:


ssk9716757 posted...
We confirmed these Taser models with the Atlanta Police. Once theyre fired twice, they must be reloaded. So at this point, Brooks is unarmed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/18/us/rayshard-brooks-police-tactics.html

again, ability to drive stun, and what that DA says is bias af. Ive shot a taser before and it didnt go off, popped it again and it went off. Its not a perfect tool


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ThePieReborn
08/07/20 2:36:31 PM
#64:


Mark_DeRosa posted...
the citation is the actual lawsuit that states he was fired without an investigation....did you even read it
That's the fucking complaint you nitwit.

Discovery has not been developed; the facts needed to survive a 12b6 motion are not required to be anything remotely resembling detailed. I know these things are foreign to you, but come on.

Are you going to take the answer denying the allegations as true as well?

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Mark_DeRosa
08/07/20 2:38:17 PM
#65:


I mean its clear there was no investigation

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sktgamer_13dude
08/07/20 2:39:16 PM
#66:


Mark_DeRosa posted...

prove to me with 100 percent certainty, that they were all spent, some people carry extra cartridges clipped on, none of the ones that were. Spent were malfunctioned or attempted to use so he actually still had one. Also prove how a drive stun can not be used to disable a person.

Prove that they werent spent.

Oh wait, you cant and youre only peddling this bullshit because thin blue line.
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_Squirtle_
08/07/20 2:39:31 PM
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ThePieReborn posted...
That's the fucking complaint you nitwit.

Discovery has not been developed; the facts needed to survive a 12b6 motion are not required to be anything remotely resembling detailed. I know these things are foreign to you, but come on.

Are you going to take the answer denying the allegations as true as well?

Expecting a police officer to know the law

https://youtu.be/PXc_gB7AH7A

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Mark_DeRosa
08/07/20 2:40:25 PM
#68:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
Prove that they werent spent.

Oh wait, you cant and youre only peddling this bullshit because thin blue line.
You really cant, either way not in a 100 percent without reason of a doubt court manner. And thats exactly why Im saying hes going to win his case lol. Its like you didnt read anything. Iol

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Mark_DeRosa
08/07/20 2:41:32 PM
#69:


_Squirtle_ posted...
Expecting a police officer to know the law
*Black man confused gif*

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Poop2
08/07/20 2:42:48 PM
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Are all cops this triggered?
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Comfy_Pillow
08/07/20 2:43:02 PM
#71:


Mark_DeRosa posted...
*Black man confused gif*

Resist the urge to shoot. He's just confused.
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Machete
08/07/20 2:43:18 PM
#72:


Ex-Kefiroth posted...
delete your account


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sktgamer_13dude
08/07/20 2:43:26 PM
#73:


Mark_DeRosa posted...

You really cant, either way not in a 100 percent without reason of a doubt court manner. And thats exactly why Im saying hes going to win his case lol. Its like you didnt read anything. Iol

My union rep said that I must defend my thin blue line by any means necessary.
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Mark_DeRosa
08/07/20 2:44:04 PM
#74:


Poop2 posted...
Are all cops this triggered?
Idk who you think is triggered, everyone except is acting calm and civil. You dont have to say this every topic I make. Poop2

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Mark_DeRosa
08/07/20 2:44:39 PM
#75:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
My union rep said that I must defend my thin blue line by any means necessary.
I withdrew from my union like 6 months ago lol

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thronedfire2
08/07/20 2:44:52 PM
#76:


ohiostate124 posted...
Turning your back to an officer doesnt magically give you the right to shoot a deadly weapon at him and face zero consequences.

a taser with no charges is a deadly weapon now?

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Houston
08/07/20 2:45:39 PM
#77:


I hope he takes 'em for all they're worth

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TheOtherMike
08/07/20 2:46:47 PM
#78:


Mark_DeRosa posted...
its a corrupt policy that an officers incident must be fully investigated by several outlets and not jsut fired on the spot??

When literally no other workers in the country have similar protection? Yes.
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Poop2
08/07/20 2:48:05 PM
#79:


Mark_DeRosa posted...
Idk who you think is triggered, everyone except is acting calm and civil. You dont have to say this every topic I make. Poop2
The mere fact you make these topics proves you are

you constantly look to be the victim
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Mark_DeRosa
08/07/20 2:48:28 PM
#80:


TheOtherMike posted...
When literally no other workers in the country have similar protection? Yes.
Well its almost like policing has to be held to a different standard than normal employees. Seeing as that job consists of legal powers and having to possibly to use deadly force as a part of the job...same thing does the military does

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Mark_DeRosa
08/07/20 2:49:15 PM
#81:


Poop2 posted...
The mere fact you make these topics proves you are

you constantly look to be the victim
If anything. My topic was hopeful in his efforts. Not mad at all. The u mad thing is kinda 2008 bro

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TheOtherMike
08/07/20 2:49:54 PM
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Mark_DeRosa posted...
Well its almost like policing has to be held to a different standard than normal employees.

Exactly. Cops have extra protection that no one else does. Thanks for admitting there's a problem. Cops need to be held to a higher standard, not just a "different" standard.
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Mark_DeRosa
08/07/20 2:51:10 PM
#84:


TheOtherMike posted...
Exactly. Cops have extra protection that no one else does. Thanks for admitting there's a problem.

The problem is you keep labeling it as protection. Many of investigations have resulted in discipline, firing, legal punishment


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NeoShadowhen
08/07/20 2:51:22 PM
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It will probably be another month before the GBI release their findings.

No telling if the investigation into the DA will go anywhere anytime soon.
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ssk9716757
08/07/20 2:52:10 PM
#86:


Mark_DeRosa posted...
again, ability to drive stun, and what that DA says is bias af. Ive shot a taser before and it didnt go off, popped it again and it went off. Its not a perfect tool

lol no man it went off. it was over the officer's head:

"Brooks fires Brosnan's Taser toward Rolfe, although his aim is high."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/14/us/videos-rayshard-brooks-shooting-atlanta-police.html

Non paywalled source: https://reason.com/2020/06/15/was-the-shooting-of-rayshard-brooks-lawful-but-awful/

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TheOtherMike
08/07/20 2:52:17 PM
#87:


Mark_DeRosa posted...
The problem is you keep labeling it as protection.

Because it objectively is.

Mark_DeRosa posted...
Many of investigations have resulted in discipline, firing, legal punishment

Not nearly enough.
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Mark_DeRosa
08/07/20 2:52:36 PM
#88:


ssk9716757 posted...
lol no man it went off. it was over the officer's head:

"Brooks fires Brosnan's Taser toward Rolfe, although his aim is high."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/14/us/videos-rayshard-brooks-shooting-atlanta-police.html

Non paywalled source: https://reason.com/2020/06/15/was-the-shooting-of-rayshard-brooks-lawful-but-awful/
If thats true, then its even more justified

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Mark_DeRosa
08/07/20 2:52:54 PM
#89:


TheOtherMike posted...
Not nearly enough.
Based off 0 research

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ssk9716757
08/07/20 2:54:40 PM
#90:


Mark_DeRosa posted...
If thats true, then its even more justified

how? there's a whole-ass second cop there and the guy is unarmed and running away.

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Comfy_Pillow
08/07/20 2:55:07 PM
#91:


Fuck the police
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sktgamer_13dude
08/07/20 2:55:09 PM
#92:


Mark_DeRosa posted...

I withdrew from my union like 6 months ago lol

Then get the thin blue line out of your mouth then.

You literally find every single way to explain why a cop murdering someone is ok and its fucking bullshit.
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TheOtherMike
08/07/20 2:55:15 PM
#93:


Mark_DeRosa posted...
Based off 0 research

Which of Breonna Taylor's murders have been charged again?
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Mark_DeRosa
08/07/20 2:56:39 PM
#94:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
Then get the thin blue line out of your mouth then.

You literally find every single way to explain why a cop murdering someone is ok and its fucking bullshit.

get anti cop derangement syndrome out of yours first

its not murder at all. He stole a cops weapons, used it, he was a danger to himself and the public. Its not pretty and no one deserves to die. But its what happened self escalated by himself as wel


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sktgamer_13dude
08/07/20 2:59:15 PM
#95:


Mark_DeRosa posted...

Well its almost like policing has to be held to a different standard than normal employees. Seeing as that job consists of legal powers and having to possibly to use deadly force as a part of the job...same thing does the military does

Yeah, their different standard is were allowed to kill citizens and then investigate ourselves and say everything is ok.

Thats the standard police have set for themselves. And the only ones that dont see how this is a bad thing are cops and cop bootlickers.
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HiddenRoar
08/07/20 3:03:12 PM
#96:


Ptolimby posted...
This is the case that finally got my crooked ex nypd dad to admit this shit is indefensible and needs to end. The fact that he admits it and the people here cant tells me they are really, really far gone

New user 3 karma who's alt?
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ThanksUglyGod
08/07/20 3:08:47 PM
#97:


Mark_DeRosa posted...
the same DA classified tasers as deadly weapons, when those officers pulled that couple out of the car. So is it or not
If tasers are in fact "deadly weapons", then there are a lot more bad cops who use deadly force on innocent people than we thought
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