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inloveanddeath0
08/07/20 12:33:10 AM
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So if there was a role for a south african act player. Would they not choose the white south african?

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jimbiz
08/07/20 12:39:14 AM
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ITT: People ignoring the reason why Zoe Saldana was a terrible choice for playing Nina Simone.

Hint: It has been explained several times before and it's not because she's mixed

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lurk
08/07/20 12:40:12 AM
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trash topic from trash trump supporter
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inloveanddeath0
08/07/20 12:41:37 AM
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jimbiz posted...
ITT: People ignoring the reason why Zoe Saldana was a terrible choice for playing Nina Simone.

Hint: It has been explained several times before and it's not because she's mixed
Who's Nina? I only know Raven

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KStateKing17
08/07/20 12:43:58 AM
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jimbiz posted...
ITT: People ignoring the reason why Zoe Saldana was a terrible choice for playing Nina Simone.

Hint: It has been explained several times before and it's not because she's mixed
I looked further into it and found out Zoe wasn't the first choice. She came in after Mary J Blige declined. As long as Blige didn't didn't do what Saldana did there would be less of an issue since she's an actual singer and actress.

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jimbiz
08/07/20 12:44:14 AM
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inloveanddeath0 posted...
Who's Nina? I only know Raven
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jimbiz
08/07/20 12:46:27 AM
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KStateKing17 posted...
I looked further into it and found out Zoe wasn't the first choice. She came in after Mary J Blige declined. As long as Blige didn't didn't do what Saldana did there would be less of an issue since she's an actual singer and actress.

Sucks that Mary J declined. Would have been a perfect choice

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inloveanddeath0
08/07/20 12:48:24 AM
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Dark Symphony
08/07/20 1:18:46 AM
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jimbiz posted...
ITT: People ignoring the reason why Zoe Saldana was a terrible choice for playing Nina Simone.

Hint: It has been explained several times before and it's not because she's mixed


Answer: You don't know and so you rely on some silly "hint" gimmick. This topic isn't about someone being a terrible choice, it's about someone getting flak for not being black enough to play a black character. Whether you agree or not with the sentiment, at least be honest about what the topic is actually about.
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_Kalecgos_
08/07/20 1:27:59 AM
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Yeah, this is getting fucking bullshit. I think the quarantines are messing some people's sanity, because anyone who justifies and enables this nonsense is wrong in the head, and I will not apologize to anyone for this assessment.

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bknight
08/07/20 1:31:43 AM
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Imagine my dissapointment when I learned Obama was half white.
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Dark_SilverX
08/07/20 1:33:00 AM
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We all forgive her.

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au_gold
08/07/20 1:38:31 AM
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Shes so hot.

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SSJGrimReaper
08/07/20 1:55:54 AM
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i wonder if she has viciously denied her blackness like every other dominican seems to do

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LethalAffinity
08/07/20 2:01:31 AM
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TheoryzC
08/07/20 2:03:15 AM
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She basically did blackface even when she was already black

Like they darkened her skin for the movie


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The_Creep_2020
08/07/20 2:15:52 AM
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I dont want to live on this planet anymore

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kronos96
08/07/20 2:44:07 AM
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So Biden was right? There is no diversity when it comes to blacks?
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ssjevot
08/07/20 2:49:48 AM
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From a cultural standpoint Obama was more white than black. Having been raised by white people and going to historically white, privileged institutions. So I can see the argument people are making with that, but I am not a fan of whatever you call this current zeitgeist of trying to force people into identity boxes and fighting over who is or isn't some social construct. So I can understand why people say this actress isn't black enough or Obama was white, but I am not a fan of this line of thinking at all.

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BB mofo
08/07/20 2:50:16 AM
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Dark Symphony posted...
Here's a test of your consistency and integrity: If Zoe Saldana was DARKER than the person she was portraying would you feel comfortable saying that she's too dark to play the role?

Some people in the black community, especially on morning radio, complained about Denzel Washington being too dark to play Malcolm X after his casting was announced. They ended up taking it back when he nailed his voice and mannerisms in the movie.

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Slayer_22
08/07/20 2:52:50 AM
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eston posted...
For me what it ultimately comes down to is that Nina Simone's family didn't want her to play the part and so she should not have done it

Why care about what your family thinks?
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Lorenzo_2003
08/07/20 3:09:05 AM
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These kinds of controversies get weirder and weirder.

I wish Saldana and others in a similar position did not feel they have to apologize, but Im guessing she understands that not doing so could possibly jeopardize other movie roles. Either that, or she started drinking the full Kool Aid pitcher since 2013.

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ReignFury
08/07/20 3:47:28 AM
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I think her apology works on two levels, first it appeases the people who tried to "cancel" her, secondly it makes everyone aware of those same people who were telling her being half black is not black enough.

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Heavy_D_Forever
08/07/20 3:52:04 AM
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TheoryzC posted...
She basically did blackface even when she was already black

Like they darkened her skin for the movie
It's a movie and she was acting. Who cares if her skin is slightly darker, she was fucking green in GOTG lol

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Grischnak
08/07/20 4:03:01 AM
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_Kalecgos_ posted...
Yeah, this is getting fucking bullshit. I think the quarantines are messing some people's sanity, because anyone who justifies and enables this nonsense is wrong in the head, and I will not apologize to anyone for this assessment.

Don't blame quarantine for this. Prejudice against light skinned black people or mixed race people for not being "black enough" is hardly new. Both Storm actresses got some backlash over it for example.
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Slayer_22
08/07/20 4:07:13 AM
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Grischnak posted...


Don't blame quarantine for this. Prejudice against light skinned black people or mixed race people for not being "black enough" is hardly new. Both Storm actresses got some backlash over it for example.

Not "being black enough" is such a fucking joke.
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cuttin_in_farm
08/07/20 4:14:30 AM
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"There's no one way to be black. You have no idea who I am. I am black. I'm raising black men. Don't you ever think you can look at me and address me with such disdain."

I dont know full context, but this statement is being tone deaf.

The last thing we need is movies and shit only putting light skin black people in roles.

If the person she was suppose to play is dark skin, and shes light skin, then yes. Shes literally not black enough.

Dark skin black people get the most shit, and are the only people who get white washed and somehow black washed.

But a bunch of white nerds on gamefaq just thinks its stupid, ofc.

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Bass_X0
08/07/20 4:19:19 AM
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Antifar posted...
She hasn't been told she isn't black, just that she wasn't dark skinned enough for that role.

And yet Hollywood has no problem with people of color portraying fictional characters known to be white.

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Bass_X0
08/07/20 4:24:16 AM
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Heavy_D_Forever posted...
It's a movie and she was acting. Who cares if her skin is slightly darker, she was fucking green in GOTG lol

You dont look like the character you are portraying is a valid criticism towards actors when movies are being made of existing source material.

But these days miscasting is now seen as a reinterpretation of the source material. Hollywood cares more for the directors own personal vision than it does being accurate to the source material.

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Peachi
08/07/20 4:32:15 AM
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This is beyond fucked up and racist as shit. "You're not black enough" get the fuck out of here. Poor girl.

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cuttin_in_farm
08/07/20 4:32:43 AM
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Peachi posted...
This is beyond fucked up and racist as shit. "You're not black enough" get the fuck out of here. Poor girl.

Are you white, @Peachi ?

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ReignFury
08/07/20 4:36:55 AM
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Bass_X0 posted...
You dont look like the character you are portraying is a valid criticism towards actors when movies are being made of existing source material.

But these days miscasting is now seen as a reinterpretation of the source material. Hollywood cares more for the directors own personal vision than it does being accurate to the source material.

Its fairly common for white actors and actresses to change hair color, eye color, body shape and darken/lighten their skin to play white historical figures.

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iPhone_7
08/07/20 4:54:46 AM
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Its about time that she owns up to the racism she caused, hopefully shes learned her lesson.

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BeantownHero
08/07/20 5:55:26 AM
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jimbiz posted...
ITT: People ignoring the reason why Zoe Saldana was a terrible choice for playing Nina Simone.

Hint: It has been explained several times before and it's not because she's mixed

They wanna concern troll. it's a very basic form of accepted anti black racism around here


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1NfamousACE_2
08/07/20 6:00:29 AM
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Bass_X0 posted...
And yet Hollywood has no problem with people of color portraying fictional characters known to be white.

But people did

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BeantownHero
08/07/20 6:05:26 AM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
But people did

dude is trying to compare a fucking biopic to MJ being black in spiderman

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FrostedCream
08/07/20 6:19:49 AM
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dont care.shes only black when its convenient.....shes also once stated that she wasnt black......
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1NfamousACE_2
08/07/20 6:46:43 AM
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BeantownHero posted...
dude is trying to compare a fucking biopic to MJ being black in spiderman

Oh...I figured he was mad when Elba played Heimdall

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Vyrulisse
08/07/20 6:48:02 AM
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Bass_X0
08/07/20 7:40:03 AM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Oh...I figured he was mad when Elba played Heimdall

Never seen it.

But I will advocate that Hollywood should get a persons or fictional characters skin color accurate to the source material. Doesnt matter if its a biopic or superhero movie.

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RemixRBG
08/07/20 8:15:28 AM
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She painted her face Black in the role. She should have never played the role if she had to do all of that
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RemixRBG
08/07/20 8:16:48 AM
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This is what people were mad about
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Bass_X0
08/07/20 8:32:09 AM
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Is it really blackface if she is already black? Makeup to appear darker or lighter than you naturally are to portray a character should not be condemned. But obviously white people going blackface is because of history.

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BeantownHero
08/07/20 8:56:19 AM
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Bass_X0 posted...
Is it really blackface if she is already black? Makeup to appear darker or lighter than you naturally are to portray a character should not be condemned. But obviously white people going blackface is because of history.

Darker skinned women have often been erased from media in favor of lighter counterparts. Lupita Nyong'o will be the first to tell you about it

A nina simone biopic was a perfect opportunity to push back against such exclusion, which is why Saldana being cast was particularly hurtful. My mom loves Nina Simone and she was piiiised


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Jagr_68
08/07/20 9:04:24 AM
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2020 being the worst fucking year in 3 decades just keeping the tires rolling...

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Lordgold666
08/07/20 9:17:06 AM
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"I thought back then that I had the permission [to play her] because I was a black woman," Saldana said.

lmao

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
08/07/20 9:53:22 AM
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Wow this is batshit insane.

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_Kalecgos_
08/07/20 9:53:54 AM
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Bass_X0 posted...
Never seen it.

But I will advocate that Hollywood should get a persons or fictional characters skin color accurate to the source material. Doesnt matter if its a biopic or superhero movie.

Yet everyone thinks Iris West being black in The Flash CW is progressive and cool. No one is patting an eye, and if you speak against it, because Iris West is a signature white redhead? You are a racist piece of shit.

Double standards are hilarious.

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Jagr_68
08/07/20 9:54:42 AM
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if you ain't Wesley Snipes or Charlie Murphy black, you can never claim true blackness.

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