Current Events > Ok legitimate question. Is anyone here actually in favor of communism?

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IndustrialTrudg
08/04/20 10:45:30 PM
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Spooking posted...
All the news articles are saying police are asking the public for help to identify the suspects in all those murders.
I guess that's better than nothing if its true. It's the main thing I remember from all that going on, where it stopped being funny.
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Solid Snake07
08/04/20 10:46:38 PM
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Yeah, there are plenty of dummies here that don't understand basic economics and human nature.

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averagejoel
08/05/20 10:51:26 AM
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IndustrialTrudg posted...
That last part, That's really naive of you to think, like really REALLY naive. People dont work that way.
yes they do. lol

plenty of people work that way now, even when the system is actively discouraging it

Give everybody exactly what they need you're still gonna have people unsatisfied and wanting more. You're still gonna have greedy people wanting more than they need and looking for ways to exploit the system and other people. You're still gonna have people looking for an excuse to cause harm.
sure. but the number of people doing that, as well as the amount of harm they can do, will be significantly smaller if the system is actively discouraging such behaviour. so it will be considerably easier to deal with

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averagejoel
08/05/20 10:57:09 AM
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Prismsblade posted...
Humans displayed traits such as competitiveness and greed long before capitalism ever existed.
cool. this does not negate the point.

It doeasnt matter if their basic needs are met.
this is completely, 100% false

Humans arent ants who are contempt with what they have until the day they die.
I'm aware that humans are not ants. this has nothing to do with the point.

They will ALWAYS desire more for the sake of it. If only to outdo their neighbor.
and, as I said, in a system that actively discourages such behaviour, fewer people will behave that way, and the amount of harm that can be done by behaving that way will be mitigated.

Your ideology essentially is going against nature itself.
not sure where you got this idea, but it is 100% false. human nature changes according to the environment.

but even excluding that, humans are social animals whose greatest achievements have come from co-operation. most animals behave this way

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MarqueeSeries
08/05/20 3:22:37 PM
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Whenever someone brings up "human nature " it always sounds like a dog whistle to me
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