Current Events > How do you feel about Nintendo making Xenoblade their flagship JRPG series?

(+) Yeah! (+)

Over a decade ago, it may have been Golden Sun, but that series crashed and burned. Xenoblade seems to be doing much better for itself, even if the later entries didn't quite capture the magic of the original game in their own ways.

I for one am all for Xenoblade being grown as a brand.

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It's fine. I think they need to abandon the current world/universe, keeping only the core concepts of scope and combat, though.

Xenoblade X was a really good first start towards that aim.


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Unless they port Thousand Year Door I don't see what else they've got.
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if xenoblade 2 wasnt garbage, i would be cool with it

they're better off sticking with FE since three houses was so good

I'm in the minority here, but I thought Xenoblade 2 was totally fine. Not amazing, but fine.

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I don't like Xenoblade, I think Golden Sun was way better, until the third game which was just mediocre. Sadly I think Camelot has lost the staff that made the first two GS games so magical and it doesn't seem interested in trying to rekindle it.

I lost interest in Xenoblade after about a dozen hours. It does have some nice voice acting though, I'll give it that.

Xenoblade 2 just looks like garbage to me from the writing to the voice acting to the character design. I played some of it with my friend and the gameplay didn't attract me either.

I love Golden Sun's snappy battle UI and its implementation of magic as both an in-battle mechanism and an overworld mechanic to be used in fun Zelda-like puzzles. I've never seen another RPG use magic so extensively and creatively like that both in and out of the battlefield, and with such versatility.

Also, no turn based RPG has ever had battles as snappy as Golden Sun. You can breeze through them so quickly if you want by holding the b button, or you can sit back and enjoy all the animations. None of the slog that modern Pokemon games have.

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Pretty sure its Pokemon.

PBusted posted...

Pretty sure its Pokemon.

Nintendo neither makes nor owns Pokemon


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I think they should change the name because it's a bad series and is dragging down the far superior Xenogears with it

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DarkRoast posted...

Nintendo neither makes nor owns Pokemon

Nintendo owns 1/3 of Pokemon
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PBusted posted...

Pretty sure its Pokemon.

You're right, but I guess we ignore it in these dicussions because it's too obvious. And also I think people kind of separate the monster-collecting RPGs from the rest of them.

Reiss posted...

no one counts pokemon in these discussions because its a monolithic entity on its own, and prints money no matter what fuckery they do

and because of that pretty much.

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PBusted posted...

Pretty sure its Pokemon.

Nintendo owns the trademark, but Pokemon is considered to be separate from the umbrella of Nintendo IPs.

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no one counts pokemon in these discussions because its a monolithic entity on its own, and prints money no matter what fuckery they do

DeadBankerDream posted...

Nintendo owns 1/3 of Pokemon

Nintendo owns 1/3rd of the Pokemon company and almost half of gamefreak who owns another 1/3rd of the Pokemon company.

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DarkRoast posted...

Nintendo neither makes nor owns Pokemon

Nintendo doesn't make Xenoblade either.

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Wetterdew posted...

You're right, but I guess we ignore it in these dicussions because it's too obvious. And also I think people kind of separate the monster-collecting RPGs from the rest of them.

and because of that pretty much.

I guess it's more accurate to say "more traditional JRPG series".

But as mentioned, the ownership of Pokemon is kind of weird. Nintendo doesn't have full control of it.

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LordFarquad1312 posted...

Nintendo doesn't make Xenoblade either.

Xenoblade is a first party Nintendo series. They completely own Monolithsoft, the developers.

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Remember when Americans had to fight tooth-and-nail for Xenoblade Chronicles to see the light of day in the US? And once it was finally released, it ended up being a GameStop exclusive with a paltry print run?

This series had one hell of a glow up.

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Sounds great, considering they completely devastate the competition whenever they come out.

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LordFarquad1312 posted...

Nintendo doesn't make Xenoblade either.

Nintendo owns the IP and the studio that makes it

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PBusted posted...

Pretty sure its Pokemon.

This.

And even then, Fire Emblem is probably #2

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If it's more like 2, then no.

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"I'm really feeling it!"

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FL81 posted...

And even then, Fire Emblem is probably #2

Fire Emblem is a SRPG, not a JRPG.

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thats some really weird semantics when its a jrpg in pretty much every way except how battles are conducted

Wetterdew posted...

I don't like Xenoblade, I think Golden Sun was way better, until the third game which was just mediocre. Sadly I think Camelot has lost the staff that made the first two GS games so magical and it doesn't seem interested in trying to rekindle it.

I lost interest in Xenoblade after about a dozen hours. It does have some nice voice acting though, I'll give it that.

Xenoblade 2 just looks like garbage to me from the writing to the voice acting to the character design. I played some of it with my friend and the gameplay didn't attract me either.

I love Golden Sun's snappy battle UI and its implementation of magic as both an in-battle mechanism and an overworld mechanic to be used in fun Zelda-like puzzles. I've never seen another RPG use magic so extensively and creatively like that both in and out of the battlefield, and with such versatility.

Also, no turn based RPG has ever had battles as snappy as Golden Sun. You can breeze through them so quickly if you want by holding the b button, or you can sit back and enjoy all the animations. None of the slog that modern Pokemon games have.

yeah, despite their flaws I still love the GBA Golden Sun games
it is rather unusual that few other JRPGs use magic for anything other than combat/healing

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Ecstatic.

The first is one of my favs of all time, and XBC2 gave me 300+ hours of entertainment.

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Solar_Crimson posted...

Fire Emblem is a SRPG, not a JRPG.

These subgenres are not mutually exclusive.

In fact, there is much overlap.

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Solar_Crimson posted...

Over a decade ago, it may have been Golden Sun

It was never Golden Sun

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FL81 posted...

These subgenres are not mutually exclusive.

In fact, there is much overlap.

Its still a different type of battles at its core and FE tends to have a bigger cast.

JRPGs are more party based and have turn based mechanics generally.

Thats where Xenoblade does separate itself well in that it does real time combat fairly well.

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Reiss posted...

if xenoblade 2 wasnt garbage, i would be cool with it

they're better off sticking with FE since three houses was so good

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DeadBankerDream posted...

Unless they port Thousand Year Door I don't see what else they've got.

We got The Origami King which dethroned The Thousand Year Door

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I'm all for it. Especially now with Takahashi wanting to build an overarching multiverse with it. I mean, it's also one of my new favorite franchises too.
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