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ZannoL 08/02/20 3:27:40 PM #1: |
Do you think a belief in god is necessary to be a person with morals?
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More education connected with belief that God is not necessary to have good values. Religion is declining rapidly in America. https://www.pewforum.org/2019/10/17/in-u-s-decline-of-christianity-continues-at-rapid-pace/ The data shows a wide gap between older Americans (Baby Boomers and members of the Silent Generation) and Millennials in their levels of religious affiliation and attendance. More than eight-in-ten members of the Silent Generation (those born between 1928 and 1945) describe themselves as Christians (84%), as do three-quarters of Baby Boomers (76%). In stark contrast, only half of Millennials (49%) describe themselves as Christians; four-in-ten are religious nones, and one-in-ten Millennials identify with non-Christian faiths. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZannoL 08/02/20 3:31:50 PM #2: |
I always thought it was silly how some people say believing in god is necessary to have morals.
What about you dudes? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZannoL 08/02/20 3:44:19 PM #3: |
Majority voting no.
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VandorLee 08/02/20 3:45:38 PM #4: |
So you are saying something completely made up for money is declining?
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Medussa 08/02/20 3:46:53 PM #5: |
Anyone who believes that is simply admitting that they have no morals and only behave due to the carrot and/or stick.
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jborgan 08/02/20 3:51:32 PM #6: |
"Well what's stopping you from just committing crimes????? Checkmate atheists"
Um. Basic human decency. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZannoL 08/02/20 3:52:10 PM #7: |
jborgan posted...
"Well what's stopping you from just committing crimes????? Checkmate atheists" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZannoL 08/02/20 4:26:25 PM #8: |
Medussa posted...
Anyone who believes that is simply admitting that they have no morals and only behave due to the carrot and/or stick. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheOtherMike 08/02/20 4:26:55 PM #9: |
I mean...duh.
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sLaCkEr408___RJ 08/02/20 4:27:47 PM #10: |
ZannoL posted...
some people say believing in god is necessary to have moralsSource ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScazarMeltex 08/02/20 4:29:56 PM #11: |
If you need an invisible man that lives in the sky threatening to punish you to make you not be a douchebag, you are already a douchebag.
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DeadBankerDream 08/02/20 4:30:02 PM #12: |
I watch a lot of anti-science debunking things on youtube and through that experience, I've learned that a fuckton of ""famous"" religious nutters actually think that they, not just people in general, but themselves specifically, would just go out and rape and murder left and right if they didn't fear God's judgement.
It's kind of gross. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lost_All_Senses 08/02/20 4:31:41 PM #13: |
ZannoL posted...
It's easy to answer questions you made up so you can to smart when you answer it. You'd be hard pressed to find someone who would actually ask that. You gotta seek out the very bottom of the people you want to write off. Why isn't that poster answering real questions that actually go deeper? Instead of making up softball questions to easily hit out the park. That seems like a Trump tactic tbh. --- Name checks out "Stupidity is a spectrum, and we're all on it" - OfDustandBone ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZannoL 08/02/20 4:32:04 PM #14: |
DeadBankerDream posted...
but themselves specifically, would just go out and rape and murder left and right if they didn't fear God's judgement.Gross indeed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lost_All_Senses 08/02/20 4:33:11 PM #15: |
You guys also seem to assume that God is the only thing keeping religious people from being heathens, which is crazy judgemental and off.
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DeadBankerDream 08/02/20 4:34:19 PM #16: |
I've never insinuated any such thing.
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Lost_All_Senses 08/02/20 4:35:36 PM #17: |
DeadBankerDream posted...
I've never insinuated any such thing. My bad. Only read the quoted version. Lost some context. --- Name checks out "Stupidity is a spectrum, and we're all on it" - OfDustandBone ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lost_All_Senses 08/02/20 4:41:01 PM #19: |
DuranOfForcena posted...
basically this, although when the subject comes up i am always partial to posting the quote from True Detective season 1 which demonstrates the same point: Which is a very small percentage. You can compare that small percentage to atheists rapist and murders to make it an actual fair balanced comparison. Basically religious people are like any other group, you're gonna see them as whatever examples reenforce you're preconceived notions of them. --- Name checks out "Stupidity is a spectrum, and we're all on it" - OfDustandBone ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Damn_Underscore 08/02/20 4:41:45 PM #20: |
Religious people saying you need to believe in God to have morals, atheists respond by saying religious people are really immoral because they need to be told how to be good.
It's all stupid. Who invented morals? There you go. Atheists will still say they were invented by humans, but that question is a way better starting point than arguing whether atheists or religious people actually have morals. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeadBankerDream 08/02/20 4:44:39 PM #22: |
Damn_Underscore posted...
Atheists will still say they were invented by humans Some atheists will. I imagine more so will say they are a product of evolution. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 08/02/20 4:46:20 PM #23: |
You don't have to believe in God for there to be morals, but God has to exist for there to be any sort of objective morality.
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Damn_Underscore 08/02/20 4:46:48 PM #24: |
DeadBankerDream posted...
Some atheists will. I imagine more so will say they are a product of evolution. Similar question, who orchestrated evolution? --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheOtherMike 08/02/20 4:48:14 PM #25: |
Damn_Underscore posted...
Who invented morals? There you go. The evolution of a social species. Damn_Underscore posted... Similar question, who orchestrated evolution? No one. Natural processes don't need orchestration. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeadBankerDream 08/02/20 4:49:08 PM #27: |
Nobody has that answer. If you want to claim God did, you're free to do so. But nothing suggests evolution needs an orchestrator in the first place.
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Extreme_light 08/02/20 4:50:21 PM #28: |
Given that I know people who don't believe and are virtually saints (in public anyway) and people who do believe and are trash ass people, no it's not necessary. But I can see how it might help some people to believe. I just wouldn't expect a trash non-religious person to suddenly gain morals just from joining a church.
DeadBankerDream posted... I watch a lot of anti-science debunking things on youtube and through that experience, I've learned that a fuckton of ""famous"" religious nutters actually think that they, not just people in general, but themselves specifically, would just go out and rape and murder left and right if they didn't fear God's judgement. Most of this is performative and fear-mongering if it's coming from bigger names tbh --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Damn_Underscore 08/02/20 4:50:57 PM #29: |
TheOtherMike posted...
No one. Natural processes don't need orchestration. Key word. We are now at the question of whether God exists or not. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheOtherMike 08/02/20 4:51:44 PM #30: |
Damn_Underscore posted...
Key word. Which one? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Damn_Underscore 08/02/20 4:54:10 PM #31: |
TheOtherMike posted...
Which one? Now you are asking a different question. I will answer you by saying that no one knows or can know what God is, therefore your question is unanswerable. --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PMarth2002 08/02/20 4:55:43 PM #32: |
Not only is that a ignorant, condescending and bigoted belief, believing in god doesn't guarantee that you actually have good morals anyway.
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DeadBankerDream 08/02/20 4:58:23 PM #34: |
Extreme_light posted...
Most of this is performative and fear-mongering if it's coming from bigger names tbh It might be performative. Obviously 99.999...% of Christians wouldn't go out and kill for fun the second they lost their belief in God. But I could very well believe that a lot of these people (the ones making this claim, not all Christians) would think that they would. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheOtherMike 08/02/20 4:59:09 PM #35: |
Damn_Underscore posted...
I will answer you by saying that no one knows or can know what God is, therefore your question is unanswerable. If you can't define it, can't interact with it, and can't otherwise demonstrate that it exists, then it probably doesn't. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Damn_Underscore 08/02/20 5:06:13 PM #37: |
Faith is a joke to you?
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TheOtherMike 08/02/20 5:08:21 PM #39: |
Damn_Underscore posted...
Faith is a joke to you? Faith is a joke, period. Literally believing something despite a lack of evidence or the existence of evidence to the contrary. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 08/02/20 5:23:58 PM #41: |
DuranOfForcena posted...
The God that created everything, including morality --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Platoe 08/02/20 5:25:31 PM #42: |
people really sitting here itt like no one makes the argument that people without god cant be moral
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ledbowman 08/02/20 5:35:26 PM #45: |
of course you don't need god to have morals but i despise how that notion is used to bash people who do believe in god
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lilORANG 08/02/20 5:35:28 PM #46: |
DuranOfForcena posted...
Are you looking for a name or something? Just call Him Joe. Idc. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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