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I'm a landlord and I'm neutral as fuck.

If you're going to live in someone else's property then FUCKING pay 'em or move the fuck out.

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Vicious_Dios posted...

I'm a landlord and I'm neutral as fuck.

If you're going to live in someone else's property then FUCKING pay 'em or move the fuck out.

That land was granted us by God. What have you done to pay Him lately, hmm?

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Vicious_Dios posted...

I'm a landlord and I'm neutral as fuck.

If you're going to live in someone else's property then FUCKING pay 'em or move the fuck out.

Here's your typical landlord mentality of caring more about money than people

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Vicious_Dios posted...

I'm a landlord and I'm neutral as fuck.

If you're going to live in someone else's property then FUCKING pay 'em or move the fuck out.

You know how farmers gotta feed their live stock? You aint gonna be making money if you let yours starve.

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Shablagoo posted...

That land was granted us by God. What have you done to pay Him lately, hmm?

Being a good Christian for starters, provide for my loved ones, help others if they truly need it, etc...

REMercsChamp posted...

Here's your typical landlord mentality of caring more about money than people.

I care about people, but business is business. This isn't one of the thousands of homeless refuge spots that you can stay the night in. Go there if you don't want to pay for shit or stay with your momma or papa.

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Every
Villain
Is
Landlords

As a system, it's a necessary function because no large government would be able to house all its citizens without some real bullshit. As it stands, both landlords and renters are humans, so there are going to be plenty of shitty people in each area. The landlords, having a means of monetizing their end of it, may have a higher rate of shitty, exploitative people, but I don't think it's any crazy jump.

A necessary evil given the specific confines of the socioeconomic system currently in place, however are also emblematic of the inherent flaws of such a system and perpetuate unnecessary class conflict which destabilizes the country's foundations.

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REMercsChamp posted...

Here's your typical landlord mentality of caring more about money than people

I assume you let strangers drive your car when you arent using it right

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Think of this as the theme song to 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF3izbIELqk

Landlords produce nothing, all they do is own housing.

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Vicious_Dios posted...

I'm a landlord and I'm neutral as fuck.

If you're going to live in someone else's property then FUCKING pay 'em or move the fuck out.

During the Pandemic tho?

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People

Some are cool some suck

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I guess I've been lucky, but every landlord I've had (3 of them) have been awesome.

How many of you are renting your home or apartment?

Garioshi posted...

Landlords produce nothing, all they do is own housing.

They own capital and are using that capital to provide a service with the goal of making a profit

Evil bastards

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If the landlord don't get paid

The bank don't get paid

If the bank don't get paid

Wall Street goes crazy and we'll be back in the 2009 financial crisis

This is a daily topic now

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i quite enjoy when poll results show the averagejoels of the world to be in the large minority despite their righteous confidence that the rest of the world has it all fucked up

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Solid Snake07 posted...

They own capital and are using that capital to provide a service with the goal of making a profit

Evil bastards

They produce nothing.

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Vicious_Dios posted...

Being a good Christian for starters, provide for my loved ones, help others if they truly need it, etc...

He says while willing to throw people on the street during a pandemic. You're not a good Christian. You're a fake Christian. All lip service, but unwilling to actually walk the path of Jesus

Garioshi posted...

They produce nothing.

They give people an option to rent. Not everyone can/want to buy a piece of property.

I personally don't plan on purchasing a house anytime soon. Way too much commitment.

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Garioshi posted...

They produce nothing.

Define produce for clarification

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No more landlords! DEFUND landlords NOW

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Fair, pay up or get smart and own property

If you hate landlords so much then buy your own place. Cheaper to have a mortgage anyway.

Garioshi posted...

They produce nothing.

They produce the service of offering housing to people who either can't afford or don't want to buy their own housing.

Also do you think being a landlord is as simple as buying a house and cashing checks? There's a reason why property management is an industry. Managing and upkeeping a property is a job, so much so that many people would rather outsource it and pay someone else to do it for them.

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Cinderforge posted...

If you hate landlords so much then buy your own place. Cheaper to have a mortgage anyway.

"Just save up $200,000 to afford a down payment on a 1 bedroom condo no problem lol"

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my previous landlord where i used to rent from used to charge reasonably in rent and even helped me out during a rough month (provided i pay her back when things got better) that lasted for well over 5-6 years until she retired to give the property to someone else where he proceeded to jack up the rent 33% extra and didn't bother to fix the shower.

always paid my rent on time as well :(.
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I think the real problem are the sort of landlords who buy up dozens of properties in a systematic fashion, eliminating the opportunity for homeownership in a given community and arbitrarily raising the cost of housing. Ive had landlords who were just people who owned a house and then wanted to move elsewhere, but wanted to eventually return to the area so they keep the house and rent it out so it isnt just sitting vacant. Thats hardly the issue

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REMercsChamp posted...

"Just save up $200,000 to afford a down payment on a 1 bedroom condo no problem lol"

I don't advise living in an area that requires a fucking 200k down payment on a 1 bed condo

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FrankGoreHOF posted...

I don't advise living in an area that requires a fucking 200k down payment on a 1 bed condo

psh the fuck do you know
*eats 24 dollar breakfast*

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Try_Another___ posted...

I think the real problem are the sort of landlords who buy up dozens of properties in a systematic fashion, eliminating the opportunity for homeownership in a given community and arbitrarily raising the cost of housing. Ive had landlords who were just people who owned a house and then wanted to move elsewhere, but wanted to eventually return to the area so they keep the house and rent it out so it isnt just sitting vacant. Thats hardly the issue

Housing is expensive because of cheap credit from banks which increases demand, not landlords buying up all the properties.

As with everything there's a yin and a yang. If you made credit more expensive housing would be cheaper, but it'd also be harder to get a loan and you would pay more interest on the money you borrow. If loans are cheaper and accessible to more people than it will drive up demand and prices.

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Not often I see someone flex economics correctly

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Solid Snake07 posted...

Housing is expensive because of cheap credit from banks which increases demand, not landlords buying up all the properties.

As with everything there's a yin and a yang. If you made credit more expensive housing would be cheaper, but it'd also be harder to get a loan and you would pay more interest on the money you borrow. If loans are cheaper and accessible to more people than it will drive up demand and prices.

I understand that, but the type of landlord I described does exist. The cost of housing is raised by the presence of such landlords because they're middlemen and they need a share of their own. For this reason, the more properties become rentals, and the less purchasable homes are available on the market, the more the cost of housing has arbitrarily risen because now theres an unnecessary third party who takes an additional cut of the money. And god forbid you live somewhere where wealthy people have a vested interest in being, like a college town, because the presence of wealthy people will also arbitrarily raise rent and price out those who cant afford it, who are often times the same people who are directly involved with and contributing to the local economy.

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A miserable pile of secrets.

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Try_Another___ posted...

I understand that, but the type of landlord I described does exist. The cost of housing is raised by the presence of such landlords because they're middlemen and they need a share of their own. For this reason, the more properties become rentals, and the less purchasable homes are available on the market, the more the cost of housing has arbitrarily risen because now theres an unnecessary third party who takes an additional cut of the money. And god forbid you live somewhere where wealthy people have a vested interest in being, like a college town, because the presence of wealthy people will also arbitrarily raise rent and price out those who cant afford it, who are often times the same people who are directly involved with and contributing to the local economy.

Rental properties only exist if there's a demand for them. If there were a high demand for more affordable housing that a developer could turn a profit in building then they would build those houses.

Rental markets are driven more by people who don't want to own than people who can't afford to own. Which is fine. Owning is a really big liability that ties you down. There's nothing wrong with not wanting that. But those people have to live somewhere so they're gonna rent. And people will provide them somewhere to rent of they can make a profit doing so.

Renting isn't a bad deal. Yeah you pay a slight premium but you aren't paying property taxes. You aren't paying for water/sewage/trash in many cases. And you aren't responsible for repairs. These larger property rental management companies that I think you're talking about have streamlined those costs in a way that you can't owning a single property that you live in.

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REMercsChamp posted...

"Just save up $200,000 to afford a down payment on a 1 bedroom condo no problem lol"

Yeah... if you're buying a condo worth 2 million dollars....

Human.

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As a landlord I charge a very decent rate where I am compared to the market.

And long as you make the place in decent shape it's fine.

I can't stand landlords who don't fix things if the tenant didn't break it. Those are the ones I dislike.

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Solid Snake07 posted...

Rental properties only exist if there's a demand for them. If there were a high demand for more affordable housing that a developer could turn a profit in building then they would build those houses.

Rental markets are driven more by people who don't want to own than people who can't afford to own. Which is fine. Owning is a really big liability that ties you down. There's nothing wrong with not wanting that. But those people have to live somewhere so they're gonna rent. And people will provide them somewhere to rent of they can make a profit doing so.

Renting isn't a bad deal. Yeah you pay a slight premium but you aren't paying property taxes. You aren't paying for water/sewage/trash in many cases. And you aren't responsible for repairs.

Theres *always* a demand for rental properties though. Housing is inelastic. People need places to live, and to the extent to which theyre able to do so, they will pay more because its not really negotiable. And renters *are* responsible for the condition of the rental property, thats why security deposits exist. Its true that landlords will provide housing if they are able to turn a profit from it, but the issue lies within the fact that they are raising the cost of living simply by their presence requiring a profit, and they obviously have incentive to maximize profit wherever they can. Also, as a renter I can assure you that most renters are still paying for water, trash, and other utilities. Sometimes the various payments are consolidated into one larger payment and marketed as utilities included, but youre still paying for it. You are correct in saying that the flexibility of renting and the lack of property taxes are obvious benefits though, Ill agree with you there.

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Whats the end goal, just live where you want for free?

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Is it fair to have two different opinions here?

Landlords in general and how landlords should behave during a crisis like this?

In a healthy economy, you don't pay your rent, you should be kicked. There's plenty of options for you, and it's almost always on the tenant

Right now though? Jobs aren't readily available to everyone, government is cutting aid. Tenants who previously were great at paying on time and take care of the place should be given consideration. Especially if your property is owned rather than a mortgage. I own a house that I rent out and my tenants came to me almost in tears because they couldn't pay their rent due to layoffs. I agreed to cut the rent in half until further notice on the condition that they take charge of upkeep on the place. Yardwork etc.

Yes, I lose money, but they're good people who didn't have any control over what's happening.

Government should have enacted rent/mortgage freezes.