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The working class pays part of its taxes towards Medicare, SNAP, TANF, SSI, etc.

What exactly do we get in return from them?

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There is some utility value in paying people to not participate in the job market, but it's debatable what that value is.

Questionmarktarius posted...

There is some utility value in paying people to not participate in the job market, but it's debatable what that value is.

.... and what could those values be?

Some of the working class benefit from SNAP/TANF/Medicaid

you may not realize this, but humans are living creatures

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They dont need to put in anything. Welfare is the hypothetical safety net for the unemployed paid for by taxes. Its not like its a dream come true. Youre not actually getting rich.

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YellingAtThings posted...

.... and what could those values be?

Of course there are situations where it has purpose but I wouldnt say it yields any value. A single mother, ok I understand and empathize. Entire families living carefree in trailers and projects for free? Welfare reform is such a mess of a subject though, has been for decades.

Best to just accept that it is a thing that wont change or yield any benefits to hard working Americans.
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jon1012 posted...

They dont need to put in anything. Welfare is the hypothetical safety net for the unemployed paid for by taxes. Its not like its a dream come true. Youre not actually getting rich.

It always amazes me that people think that the people on welfare are somehow living this fancy lifestyle thanks to the government and tax dollars, when in reality its mostly hard working families that are struggling to make ends meets and need a little extra help.

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Welfare is not just unemployment, but also housing assistance, food assistance, SSI, and others. These programs help to keep people working, keep them from getting so sick or malnourished that they are not able to work, and help prop up the economy.

Paying a portion of the transportation costs of someone who cannot other get to work obviously helps the work force. Paying to help someone feed their child helps them to be productive (and raises more productive children). Paying to keep people healthy helps keep them working and helps to keep them spreading disease. These programs often help the working class and usually help every class indirectly by allowing the countey to keep its spending economy.

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OgesMC posted...

Entire families living carefree in trailers and projects for free? Welfare reform is such a mess of a subject though, has been for decades.

Best to just accept that it is a thing that wont change or yield any benefits to hard working Americans.

This is ridiculous. You literally cannot live anywhere in the US on minimum wage alone. When people cannot afford food and shelter, they cannot afford to live, cannot afford to have a job. It is better for them, at that point, to beg and scavenge. We don't want people at that point, we want them working successfully and healthily.

Usually families living "for free" are living on disability, for some reason. I can personally tell you, it's hard as hell to get disability in some states. Those families may not be able to work, for some reason or another, and probably have a social worker trying to fit some of them into a job they can maintain. Sometimes what looks like welfare abuse is not, and normal welfare use may be otherwise invisible to outsiders.

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People on welfare are the working class

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Intro2Logic posted...

People on welfare are the working class

Nobody fucking knows what "the working class" is. But if you as a democratic candidate don't use that phrase now-a-days, prepare to be crucified.

Generally speaking, I think most use it as a stand in for middle class to make it seem like they care about the poor, meanwhile they couldn't give a shit.

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Homeless or dead does terrible things for society

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Consumer spending drives our economy. Without public assistance, the poor struggle to keep a roof over their heads and feed themselves adequately.
The money they receive from the government not only makes it feasible for them to subsist, but stimulates the economy as well.
If we were to expand our social safety net, it would be a massive economic boon, even if it came at the cost of higher taxes.

troll_swag posted...

It always amazes me that people think that the people on welfare are somehow living this fancy lifestyle thanks to the government and tax dollars, when in reality its mostly hard working families that are struggling to make ends meets and need a little extra help.

This. Welfare is not a classy lifestyle.

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Excellent question, tc

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most people on welfare are working or are unable to work. You are operating under the naive assumption that most wages are enough to live on

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People on welfare have money to spend at the services and places that employ the working class.

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troll_swag posted...

It always amazes me that people think that the people on welfare are somehow living this fancy lifestyle thanks to the government and tax dollars, when in reality its mostly hard working families that are struggling to make ends meets and need a little extra help.

It doeasnt apply to all families, but many can live relatively decent lives on a combination of welfare, child support, dependents, and a part time job.

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