Current Events > Dilemma: You get a terminal disease. The only treatment is 400 days of suffering

Topic List	Page List: 1
UnfairRepresent 07/31/20 3:42:58 PM #1:	Would you die in relative peace or take the treatment? I'd take the treatment. I wouldn't take the treatment Would you die in relative peace or take the treatment? - Results (4 votes) I'd take the treatment. 75% (3 votes) 3 I wouldn't take the treatment 25% (1 vote) 1 You're walking along one day when suddenly your guts feel like they are exploding. You crumple to the floor like a box of pizza being knocked off a table by a hungry dog. You start throwing up and coughing up blood. Blood also spurts out of your nose and you piss yourself. You're in tremendous pain and pass out. You wake up in hospital as confused doctors run a battery of tests on you. After some time has passed a doctor approaches you looking stern and sorrowful. "I'm afraid I've got some bad news. It's not Corona virus, you have De-Tylmarande disease. An extremely rare condition. In layman's terms your body is rejecting your organs. Its a disease we know very little about. Infact up until now the only reported cases were from petite Canadian women in their 30s. You're somewhat of an anomaly. The good news is that it is not contagious. The problem is that it is terminal... There is no ... real treatment. No drugs will help. Even complete organ transplants wouldn't work, your body would reject them anyway. Besides once it reaches your brain they wouldn't make a difference regardless. Like Pip I need you to manage your expectations. We'll make you as comfortable as we can but you only have 8-12 days. 14 at the most. You'll need to get your affairs in order. There's simply nothing anyone can do" The doctor says. "I'll be the judge of that!" boasts a loud huge female doctor who has emerged dramatically. "Seo-Yun Jiang!? This isn't your patient!" your doctor says. "There's nothing wrong with a consult. And your patient has a right to know that there IS a treatment. One with a 100% success rate. The one I came up with." "That treatment is forbidden! It's too extreme." Your doctor bites back. "YOU forbid it. But it's not illegal. It's up to the patient to decide if they want to live. There is a herbal treatment that will keep your organs functioning and eventually fight off the disease. It takes about 400 days give or take a few weeks. Once that has passed you will make a full recovery and live the rest of your life. However during the treatment you will perpetually feel a rotation of intense unpleasant sensations such as immense constant pain, insomia, asphyxiation, nausea, loss of bowel control, loss of sex drive, paralysis, dizziness, coughing, coldness, itchiness and pain. I know I said pain twice but I thought it was such a big one that it was worth mentioning twice. The other issue is that we can't give you any drugs to help with those symptons. It would interfere with the herb treatment. No painkillers or beer or induced coma. It's a difficult road but it is an option if you don't want to die." Dr Jiang says. "That's not medicine it's barbarism. You want to torture a patient for over a year? At least give the patient some time to think about it. They only just heard the news" "Time? What like 8 days and then s/he's dead? Fair enough, just some `expectations` for your patient to manage. Aye, let's do that." Dr Jiang says before leaving the room. https://i.imgur.com/C7jMZRP.png Your doctor sighs "Dr Jiang is a genius when it comes to science and logic but she has no room in her heart for emotion or compassion. This treatment is wrong, it's a complete violation of the Hippocratic Oath. No true doctor would endorse it. Don't make the mistake to take it out of fear. You'll end up regretting it." So 8-14 days of relative comfort followed by certain death or 400 days of complete toture and misery but then afterwards your life continues as normal. As physically healthy as you were before. Would you take the treatment? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:942827960] in Dilemma: Y... [t:78883857]...</cite> <quote> Would you die in relative peace or take the treatment? I'd take the treatment. I wouldn't take the treatment Vote View Results Would you die in relative peace or take the treatment? - Results (4 votes) I'd take the treatment. 75% (3 votes) 3 I wouldn't take the treatment 25% (1 vote) 1 Show Voting Form You're walking along one day when suddenly your guts feel like they are exploding. You crumple to the floor like a box of pizza being knocked off a table by a hungry dog. You start throwing up and coughing up blood. Blood also spurts out of your nose and you piss yourself. You're in tremendous pain and pass out. You wake up in hospital as confused doctors run a battery of tests on you. After some time has passed a doctor approaches you looking stern and sorrowful. "I'm afraid I've got some bad news. It's not Corona virus, you have De-Tylmarande disease. An extremely rare condition. In layman's terms your body is rejecting your organs. Its a disease we know very little about. Infact up until now the only reported cases were from petite Canadian women in their 30s. You're somewhat of an anomaly. The good news is that it is not contagious. The problem is that it is terminal... There is no ... real treatment. No drugs will help. Even complete organ transplants wouldn't work, your body would reject them anyway. Besides once it reaches your brain they wouldn't make a difference regardless. Like Pip I need you to manage your expectations. We'll make you as comfortable as we can but you only have 8-12 days. 14 at the most. You'll need to get your affairs in order. There's simply nothing anyone can do" The doctor says. "I'll be the judge of that!" boasts a loud huge female doctor who has emerged dramatically. "Seo-Yun Jiang!? This isn't your patient!" your doctor says. "There's nothing wrong with a consult. And your patient has a right to know that there IS a treatment. One with a 100% success rate. The one I came up with." "That treatment is forbidden! It's too extreme." Your doctor bites back. "YOU forbid it. But it's not illegal. It's up to the patient to decide if they want to live. There is a herbal treatment that will keep your organs functioning and eventually fight off the disease. It takes about 400 days give or take a few weeks. Once that has passed you will make a full recovery and live the rest of your life. However during the treatment you will perpetually feel a rotation of intense unpleasant sensations such as immense constant pain, insomia, asphyxiation, nausea, loss of bowel control, loss of sex drive, paralysis, dizziness, coughing, coldness, itchiness and pain. I know I said pain twice but I thought it was such a big one that it was worth mentioning twice. The other issue is that we can't give you any drugs to help with those symptons. It would interfere with the herb treatment. No painkillers or beer or induced coma. It's a difficult road but it is an option if you don't want to die." Dr Jiang says. "That's not medicine it's barbarism. You want to torture a patient for over a year? At least give the patient some time to think about it. They only just heard the news" "Time? What like 8 days and then s/he's dead? Fair enough, just some expectations for your patient to manage. Aye, let's do that." Dr Jiang says before leaving the room. https://i.imgur.com/C7jMZRP.png Your doctor sighs "Dr Jiang is a genius when it comes to science and logic but she has no room in her heart for emotion or compassion. This treatment is wrong, it's a complete violation of the Hippocratic Oath. No true doctor would endorse it. Don't make the mistake to take it out of fear. You'll end up regretting it." So 8-14 days of relative comfort followed by certain death or 400 days of complete toture and misery but then afterwards your life continues as normal. As physically healthy as you were before. Would you take the treatment?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IloveJesus 07/31/20 3:47:55 PM #2:	Surely you'd be broken by the ordeal afterwards? --- Jesus loves us. It only seems fair to love him back. <cite>IloveJesus posted [p:942828147] in Dilemma: Y... [t:78883857]...</cite> <quote>Surely you'd be broken by the ordeal afterwards? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 07/31/20 3:49:37 PM #3:	sounds like chemotherapy... --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:942828215] in Dilemma: Y... [t:78883857]...</cite> <quote>sounds like chemotherapy... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 07/31/20 3:52:14 PM #4:	i don't enjoy life nearly enough to go through with this oh well, guess i'm dead i'm not going through 400 days of torture just to live --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:942828318] in Dilemma: Y... [t:78883857]...</cite> <quote>i don't enjoy life nearly enough to go through with this oh well, guess i'm dead i'm not going through 400 days of torture just to live </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroX91 07/31/20 3:55:07 PM #5:	Pain is healing....or something --- 2 to the 1 from the 1 to the 3, a fitting end for a monster like me. <cite>ZeroX91 posted [p:942828427] in Dilemma: Y... [t:78883857]...</cite> <quote>Pain is healing....or something </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Abiz_ 07/31/20 3:55:47 PM #6:	So a little over a year of hell and I get to go back to my life? Yeah, I will take that over death. <cite>Abiz_ posted [p:942828463] in Dilemma: Y... [t:78883857]...</cite> <quote>So a little over a year of hell and I get to go back to my life? Yeah, I will take that over death. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 07/31/20 4:03:56 PM #7:	Abiz_ posted... So a little over a year of hell and I get to go back to my life? yes --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:942828784] in Dilemma: Y... [t:78883857]...</cite> <quote>Abiz_ posted...</cite> <quote>So a little over a year of hell and I get to go back to my life? </quote> yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOnionKnight 07/31/20 4:06:19 PM #8:	monkmith posted... sounds like chemotherapy... --- The owls are not what they seem. <cite>TheOnionKnight posted [p:942828868] in Dilemma: Y... [t:78883857]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote>sounds like chemotherapy... </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOrgyPorgy 07/31/20 4:08:54 PM #9:	What's with the cheesy narrative story --- Radiohead <cite>TheOrgyPorgy posted [p:942828960] in Dilemma: Y... [t:78883857]...</cite> <quote>What's with the cheesy narrative story </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
#10	Post #10 was unavailable or deleted.
UnfairRepresent 07/31/20 4:13:31 PM #11:	monkmith posted... sounds like chemotherapy... Chemotherapy is a childrens birthday party compared to this. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:942829116] in Dilemma: Y... [t:78883857]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted...</cite> <quote>sounds like chemotherapy... </quote> Chemotherapy is a childrens birthday party compared to this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Firewerx 07/31/20 4:13:40 PM #12:	monkmith posted... sounds like chemotherapy... --- Watching the shadows burn <cite>Firewerx posted [p:942829119] in Dilemma: Y... [t:78883857]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted... </cite> <quote>sounds like chemotherapy...</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 07/31/20 4:28:09 PM #13:	monkmith posted... sounds like chemotherapy... So my experience with chemo was nothing like that but I was otherwise relatively healthy. I lost my hair and beard (beard was the worst part since I keep my hair short anyways), felt really weak, and got fat because I was sleeping all the time and unable to work for about 3 months. But I've known people who had way worse experiences, some because they had different chemo regimens than what I had (the regimen I had was used specifically for only High Grade B-cell lymphomas) or because their body tolerated the treatment way worse than I due to underlying health conditions. I spent a ton of time reading on the subject and from what I've been able to gather the regimens they use to treat advanced stages of Breast cancer are fucking horrible. In regards to the actual topical question, I say go for the treatment. I spent 3 months with a combination of dry socket and TMJ from a botched wisdom teeth removal about 5 years ago, and then cancer and chemo last year so my tolerance for pain and discomfort is pretty high at this point. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:942829608] in Dilemma: Y... [t:78883857]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted... </cite> <quote>sounds like chemotherapy...</quote>So my experience with chemo was nothing like that but I was otherwise relatively healthy. I lost my hair and beard (beard was the worst part since I keep my hair short anyways), felt really weak, and got fat because I was sleeping all the time and unable to work for about 3 months. But I've known people who had way worse experiences, some because they had different chemo regimens than what I had (the regimen I had was used specifically for only High Grade B-cell lymphomas) or because their body tolerated the treatment way worse than I due to underlying health conditions. I spent a ton of time reading on the subject and from what I've been able to gather the regimens they use to treat advanced stages of Breast cancer are fucking horrible. In regards to the actual topical question, I say go for the treatment. I spent 3 months with a combination of dry socket and TMJ from a botched wisdom teeth removal about 5 years ago, and then cancer and chemo last year so my tolerance for pain and discomfort is pretty high at this point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 07/31/20 4:53:27 PM #14:	ScazarMeltex posted... I say go for the treatment definitely this. --- Explorers In The Further Regions Of Experience, demons to some, Angels To Others: Pinhead <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:942830508] in Dilemma: Y... [t:78883857]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted...</cite> <quote>I say go for the treatment</quote> definitely this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IloveJesus 07/31/20 5:00:20 PM #15:	monkmith posted... sounds like chemotherapy... As somebody who has had chemotherapy, no it doesn't. --- Jesus loves us. It only seems fair to love him back. <cite>IloveJesus posted [p:942830785] in Dilemma: Y... [t:78883857]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted... </cite> <quote>sounds like chemotherapy...</quote> As somebody who has had chemotherapy, no it doesn't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 07/31/20 5:10:42 PM #16:	IloveJesus posted... As somebody who has had chemotherapy, no it doesn't. as someone who's worked in the field and watched it evolve and seen several family members go through it, yes it does. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:942831145] in Dilemma: Y... [t:78883857]...</cite> <quote>IloveJesus posted... </cite> <quote>As somebody who has had chemotherapy, no it doesn't.</quote>as someone who's worked in the field and watched it evolve and seen several family members go through it, yes it does. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RetsuZaiZen 07/31/20 5:13:16 PM #17:	Is all chemotherapy the same? --- Why do nerdsalways get caught up on the details? https://imgur.com/dntQM https://imgur.com/9gNcUGM https://imgur.com/bH8vq3f <cite>RetsuZaiZen posted [p:942831224] in Dilemma: Y... [t:78883857]...</cite> <quote>Is all chemotherapy the same? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BloodMoon7 07/31/20 5:15:13 PM #18:	For 400 days I'd be more concerned about the bill. 400 days of suffering and then 1000 years of debt! --- Hello, I lack empathy. I am a certified villain who lacks basic human decency. I laugh at images of sad puppies. I eat animal crackers starting with the head. <cite>BloodMoon7 posted [p:942831301] in Dilemma: Y... [t:78883857]...</cite> <quote>For 400 days I'd be more concerned about the bill. 400 days of suffering and then 1000 years of debt! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shelhamer92 07/31/20 5:16:15 PM #19:	Give me the herbs and put me in a coma. --- "It's a sunny night in Oakland" -Phil Simms *Camera pans to full moon <cite>Shelhamer92 posted [p:942831334] in Dilemma: Y... [t:78883857]...</cite> <quote>Give me the herbs and put me in a coma. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 07/31/20 5:26:01 PM #20:	RetsuZaiZen posted... Is all chemotherapy the same? No. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemotherapy_regimen There are tons of different regimens based on the type of cancer and how advanced it is. I did 4 cycles of R-EPOCH and 4 intrathecal injections (chemo injected directly into the spinal fluid to treat or protect the brain) of methotrexate for the sporadic type of Burkitt's lymphoma (a form of HIgh Grade B-Cell lymphoma). My father had esophageal cancer and did a bunch of cycles of EOX before it eventually killed him. The body's response varies as to how otherwise healthy the person is, how far advanced their cancer is, and how toxic the regimen is to the body. To @monkmith 's point my understanding is that the older regimens were far harsher on the system than some of the newer regimens. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:942831668] in Dilemma: Y... [t:78883857]...</cite> <quote>RetsuZaiZen posted... </cite> <quote>Is all chemotherapy the same?</quote>No. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemotherapy_regimen There are tons of different regimens based on the type of cancer and how advanced it is. I did 4 cycles of R-EPOCH and 4 intrathecal injections (chemo injected directly into the spinal fluid to treat or protect the brain) of methotrexate for the sporadic type of Burkitt's lymphoma (a form of HIgh Grade B-Cell lymphoma). My father had esophageal cancer and did a bunch of cycles of EOX before it eventually killed him. The body's response varies as to how otherwise healthy the person is, how far advanced their cancer is, and how toxic the regimen is to the body. To @monkmith 's point my understanding is that the older regimens were far harsher on the system than some of the newer regimens. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IloveJesus 07/31/20 5:33:10 PM #21:	monkmith posted... as someone who's worked in the field and watched it evolve and seen several family members go through it, yes it does. Right, so your experience is less direct than mine. I respectfully disagree. --- Jesus loves us. It only seems fair to love him back. <cite>IloveJesus posted [p:942831944] in Dilemma: Y... [t:78883857]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted... </cite> <quote>as someone who's worked in the field and watched it evolve and seen several family members go through it, yes it does.</quote> Right, so your experience is less direct than mine. I respectfully disagree. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shotgunnova 07/31/20 5:46:44 PM #22:	UnfairRepresent posted... Like Pip I need you to manage your expectations. --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame <cite>Shotgunnova posted [p:942832539] in Dilemma: Y... [t:78883857]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Like Pip I need you to manage your expectations.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OffTempo 07/31/20 9:32:56 PM #23:	I want to say that I have the resolve to take the medication but nah I dont. I'd probably just take my L and say peace out to the world. --- Interviewer: "You're not even a superhero you're more of a vampire slayer." Blade: "Don't do that" <cite>OffTempo posted [p:942841095] in Dilemma: Y... [t:78883857]...</cite> <quote>I want to say that I have the resolve to take the medication but nah I dont. I'd probably just take my L and say peace out to the world. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 08/01/20 2:52:00 PM #24:	Dead even so far --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:942865142] in Dilemma: Y... [t:78883857]...</cite> <quote>Dead even so far</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 08/02/20 4:55:47 PM #25:	Shelhamer92 posted... Give me the herbs and put me in a coma. So then you die and spend a fortune on a non medically necessary coma? How pointless --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:942908119] in Dilemma: Y... [t:78883857]...</cite> <quote>Shelhamer92 posted...</cite> <quote>Give me the herbs and put me in a coma. </quote> So then you die and spend a fortune on a non medically necessary coma? How pointless</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Extreme_light 08/02/20 4:58:41 PM #26:	I'd take it. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC7BAt96Xn0 <cite>Extreme_light posted [p:942908205] in Dilemma: Y... [t:78883857]...</cite> <quote>I'd take it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Parasite_Eve 08/02/20 5:05:16 PM #27:	400 days of torture will be worth it to continue life and watch my daughter grow up, kids make you do shit you normally wouldnt endure. --- DFFOO ID: 965347355 DayMan Dayman, fighter of the Nightman, champion of the sun, he's a master of karate and friendship for everyone! <cite>Parasite_Eve posted [p:942908418] in Dilemma: Y... [t:78883857]...</cite> <quote>400 days of torture will be worth it to continue life and watch my daughter grow up, kids make you do shit you normally wouldnt endure. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List	Page List: 1

Current Events > Dilemma: You get a terminal disease. The only treatment is 400 days of suffering (+) Yeah! (+)

Current Events > Dilemma: You get a terminal disease. The only treatment is 400 days of suffering