Current Events > black lives matter was not a good name

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I would be more on board with it if the country actually highlighted white people being murdered.

Two cops killed a white a guy in Oklahoma by tasing him for 5 minutes. Took well over a year for any charges to be brought.

No one said a peep on here or any social media. No protests against police brutality.

The fact is, police brutality DOES happen. Even one case is too much. But all Ive seen highlighted for years is black lives.

Hell even the Arizona case went away nationally and that was a time a guy was begging for his life. Cop never got convicted. No country wide protests.

Thats my issue. Call me a racist and alt-right if you wish.

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AlphaCuck posted...

shaming people who aren't paying attention. not productive

We done now?

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DiegoSanchez206 posted...

I would be more on board with it if the country actually highlighted white people being murdered.

Two cops killed a white a guy in Oklahoma by tasing him for 5 minutes. Took well over a year for any charges to be brought.

No one said a peep on here or any social media. No protests against police brutality.

The fact is, police brutality DOES happen. Even one case is too much. But all Ive seen highlighted for years is black lives.

You haven't been paying attention. BLM draws attention to white cases as well. Imagine dumping on the movement due to your own ignorance. Jabroni.

Simon_Petrikov posted...

We done now?

do you know what shame means and how it might not be the best approach

It's not a bad name. The problem was having Michael Brown as the mascot for so long.
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AlphaCuck posted...

i don't think that what blm should be about, shaming people who aren't paying attention. not productive

No idea how you got that out of what I said. Well, I have the slight idea that you were just really looking for it, so you projected it.

Even if that was where that was going. You jump to throwing all of BLM under the bus immediately for something a guy on a message board said that has no affiliation or involvement with BLM. That's telling.

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Platoe posted...

You haven't been paying attention. BLM draws attention to white cases as well. Imagine dumping on the movement due to your own ignorance. Jabroni.

Im not dumping on any movement.

I appreciate anyones right to protest, rather I agree with it or not. And I fully support it.

I am not aware of the protests that happened in Wilson, OK. Thank you though.

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Lost_All_Senses posted...

No idea how you got that out of what I said. Well, I have the slight idea that you were just really looking for it, so you projected it.

Even if that was where that was going. You jump to throwing all of BLM under the bus immediately for something a guy on a message board said that has no affiliation or involvement with BLM. That's telling.

i misread your post. my bad

DiegoSanchez206 posted...

I am not aware of the protests that happened in Wilson, OK. Thank you though.

It looks like a protest was organized last week for this person.

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I Like Toast posted...

The general population gets it. The racist don't. It isn't complicated.

Not entirely true. The misinterpretation of the message isn't so rare and not everyone who misinterprets it is a racist. That's a pretty bleak light to paint the whole damned world in, wouldn't you say?

But I guess it's just way easier to say anyone who doesn't interpret it correctly immediately is a racist. That'll definitely help the cause.

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Simon_Petrikov posted...

It looks like a protest was organized last week for this person.

Well then egg on my face. Ill look it up. I live on Oklahoma and havent heard any coverage on a protest.

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Chicken_Butt posted...

not everyone who misinterprets it is a racist.

Yes, they are.

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Simon_Petrikov posted...

It looks like a protest was organized last week for this person.

I did look it up. This wasnt associated with black lives matter.

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But its fun to yell "Black Lives Matter!" back at them.

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Ask yourself, "do Black Lives Matter?"

If your answer is yes, then we're done here.

Anything else and you've got some self-reflecting to do.

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CommonJoe posted...

Yes, they are.

There are people who respond to "Black Lives Matter" with "All Lives Matter" because they don't understand that the message and the movement of the former is about making the latter true.

Is ignorance racism? No. Don't confuse the ignorant with the stupid. The ignorant will change their views when you educate them, the stupid are the racists who don't care and just want to lash out at the black community as openly as they can and get away with it.

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I feel like labeling them all as racists does more harm than good. Many people are just dumb. Id rather have dumb people fighting for justice than not. The more the better in this situation.

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DiegoSanchez206 posted...

I did look it up. This wasnt associated with black lives matter.

Was it a protest to highlight and stand against police brutality?

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Chicken_Butt posted...

not everyone who misinterprets it is a racist

No, they are. The very fact you need a too means you already are thinking some races don't matter.

In order to think black lives matter means any other race doesn't matter your brain needs to be wired to think some races don't matter

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Chicken_Butt posted...

Is ignorance racism? No

It very much can be the case and often is.

if your ignorance is contributing to racism, then your ignorance is racism.

Especially if you choose to ignore something.

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But what if im an idiot (use your imagination) and i just yell back what one is yelling at me?

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Chicken_Butt posted...

There are people who respond to "Black Lives Matter" with "All Lives Matter" because they don't understand that the message and the movement of the former is about making the latter true.

Is ignorance racism? No. Don't confuse the ignorant with the stupid. The ignorant will change their views when you educate them, the stupid are the racists who don't care and just want to lash out at the black community as openly as they can and get away with it.

it's amazing that this needs to be explained

I Like Toast posted...

No, they are. The very fact you need a too means you already are thinking some races don't matter.

In order to think black lives matter means any other race doesn't matter your brain needs to be wired to think some races don't matter

this makes no sense

ZMythos posted...

Especially if you choose to ignore something.

If you're choosing to ignore something, that's no longer ignorance because it means you now understand it and have chosen to reject it because it doesn't support your views. That then becomes stupidity, which is what racists are.

"Ignorant" does not mean "choosing to ignore things." Let me grab the definition for you.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ignorant

I Like Toast posted...

No, they are. The very fact you need a too means you already are thinking some races don't matter.

In order to think black lives matter means any other race doesn't matter your brain needs to be wired to think some races don't matter

Have you never met someone less intelligent than you? There are a lot of people not capable of thinking on the level that you are using to dissect their intentions. There are a lot of people that don't have access to the information and social outlets that we do. I make an effort to try and educate them instead of attacking them and you should too. And if you try that and they still won't listen or reject the movement, then you call them racist - because they are.

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Chicken_Butt posted...

There are a lot of people not capable of thinking on the level that you are using to dissect their intentions.

Then adding a too makes no difference. So were back to exactly where we started but a few users letting us know they aren't worth reading their post

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I Like Toast posted...

Then adding a too makes no difference.

You're right. Adding something to make something easier for people to interpret makes no difference. How could I have been so blind? Well, since it's not worth reading my posts, please ignore me so I won't have to read any more of yours.

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Chicken_Butt posted...

If you're choosing to ignore something, that's no longer ignorance because it means you now understand it and have chosen to reject it because it doesn't support your views. That then becomes stupidity, which is what racists are.

"Ignorant" does not mean "choosing to ignore things." Let me grab the definition for you.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ignorant

Willful-ignorance does mean you choose to ignore information or knowledge to avoid making certain decisions or judgement.

Also you missed my main point which is that regardless of intent, ignorance is very much a component of racism.

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DiegoSanchez206 posted...

I would be more on board with it if the country actually highlighted white people being murdered.

Two cops killed a white a guy in Oklahoma by tasing him for 5 minutes. Took well over a year for any charges to be brought.

No one said a peep on here or any social media. No protests against police brutality.

The fact is, police brutality DOES happen. Even one case is too much. But all Ive seen highlighted for years is black lives.

Hell even the Arizona case went away nationally and that was a time a guy was begging for his life. Cop never got convicted. No country wide protests.

Thats my issue. Call me a racist and alt-right if you wish.

White people don't even care until someone else is speaking out for their own group. Someone on Facebook shared a post about a cop shot in the line of duty in January last year, but the man who posted implied it was a recent incident to incite anger amongst the anti BLM crowd. I never see anyone bring up white on white crime when someone decides to kill their kids or when a bar fight goes too far.

The black community is as outspoken as it is because there are people that actually give a damn about the future of their kids and the success of their community. Whether our methods are effective is another conversation. There are a lot of people that have something to say about protests, businesses, programs and movements when it doesn't seem to benefit them, but are never present for meetings or group conversations when we're looking for solutions.

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ZMythos posted...

Willful-ignorance does mean you choose to ignore information or knowledge to avoid making certain decisions or judgement.

"willful ignorance" is an oxymoron. In my mind, there's no such thing. It just doesn't make sense.

ZMythos posted...

Also you missed my main point which is that regardless of intent, ignorance is very much a component of racism.

I didn't miss it. I actually agree with it, which is why I didn't address it. Ignorance can absolutely be a large component of racism. But that's exactly why it's important to address and educate the (un)willfully ignorant, so we can gear them to work towards the cause instead. I want to clarify that my meaning was that an ignorant person is not necessarily a racist one.

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DiegoSanchez206 posted...

I would be more on board with it if the country actually highlighted white people being murdered.

Two cops killed a white a guy in Oklahoma by tasing him for 5 minutes. Took well over a year for any charges to be brought.

No one said a peep on here or any social media. No protests against police brutality.

The fact is, police brutality DOES happen. Even one case is too much. But all Ive seen highlighted for years is black lives.

Hell even the Arizona case went away nationally and that was a time a guy was begging for his life. Cop never got convicted. No country wide protests.

Thats my issue. Call me a racist and alt-right if you wish.

Just a thought, ending police brutality against black Americans would also end it for white Americans, since accountability is the root of the problem. Black people experience it more often so that's why they're heading the charge. Black culture in America is very much about support systems and having each others' back, since their history is rooted in uniting and helping each other escape slavery, avoid getting lynched, gaining civil rights, etc.

That's how a black friend put it when I asked.

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it's easy for somebody who doesn't have all the pieces of the picture to see it as "black lives matter" instead of "black lives matter." it's one of the first things i thought when it came out years ago. i knew what it meant but it was clearly begging to be misunderstood and trolled. why leave that hanging

AlphaCuck posted...

it's easy for somebody who doesn't have all the pieces of the picture to see it as "black lives matter" instead of "black lives matter." it's one of the first things i thought when it came out years ago. i knew what it meant but it was clearly begging to be misunderstood and trolled. why leave that hanging

It's been explained for years. The majority of people that claim they believe it's meant to show black superiority are doing it on purpose. Even in this topic posters made a good analogy with the different types of cancer. Bringing attention to breast cancer and donating to research it specifically isn't taking away from support for the cure and treatment of lung cancer. Each disease requires specific resources and approaches that the other may not necessarily need. The same thinking can be applied to women vs men's health, discrimination against the elderly, rescuing specific animals just for example.

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KStateKing17 posted...

It's been explained for years. The majority of people that claim they believe it's meant to show black superiority are doing it on purpose. Even in this topic posters made a good analogy with the different types of cancer. Bringing attention to breast cancer and donating to research it specifically isn't taking away from support for the cure and treatment of lung cancer. Each disease requires specific resources and approaches that the other may not necessarily need. The same thinking can be applied to women vs men's health, discrimination against the elderly, rescuing specific animals just for example.

in this topic i gave a real life example of a non racist person who was confused by it. it can be explained for years but not everybody is having the same experience with regard to media

AlphaCuck posted...

all i'm saying is that it's needlessly confusing. there's like a million different ones they could have done that would avoid the headache

The only people who seem to be confused are racist people. NO one stops people who say God Bless America to say... hey God Bless everyone .

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VandorLee posted...

African American Lives Matter

No, this is a global thing. Happens to black people everywhere. Worse in China

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AlphaCuck posted...

thet just left it wide open for racists and trolls to run with it and for well meaning people to misinterpret it. i was at my mama's earlier and from another room i heard somebody on tv say "black lives matter" and she said back to the tv "you mean black lives matter too." it was hilarious. what a mess

It's not a good name for white people, sure, but that's because they're too damn stupid to understand that it's not exclusive or a claim to supremacy.

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Black Lives Matter means only black lives matter

Blue Lives Matter means blue lives matter too

It's all so clear

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AloneIBreak posted...

It's not a good name for white people, sure, but that's because they're too damn stupid to understand that it's not exclusive or a claim to supremacy.

the point restater has logged on

The simple brain dead mouth breathers wouldve taken any name that had black or African American or Colored in it and twisted.

Hell, if the NAACP was named now there wouldve be a cry for it to be called the National Association for the Advancement of All People.

alimajor posted...

National Association for the Advancement of All People

lollll

Poop2 posted...

its really not a bad name.

the name makes it easy to spot racists.

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Well, "defund the police and eat the rich" doesn't have quite the same ring to it, 'Black Lives Matter' works just fine as the intention was to create awareness for police brutality in black communities. Oh, and because with that name any criticism of the Marxist ideology infecting the movement can easily and handily be dismissed with accusations of racism :)

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Cant say Ive ever met someone who takes issue with the name that wasnt a fuckin moron

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NeuralLaxative posted...

Cant say Ive ever met someone who takes issue with the name that wasnt a fuckin moron

do you want to gain political power or just sit and be superior

Why do they have Pancreatic Cancer Awareness? All cancer needs awareness

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sevihaimerej posted...

Well, "defund the police and eat the rich" doesn't have quite the same ring to it, 'Black Lives Matter' works just fine as the intention was to create awareness for police brutality in black communities. Oh, and because with that name any criticism of the Marxist ideology infecting the movement can easily and handily be dismissed with accusations of racism :)

BLM being hijacked by Marxist dogs was the most annoying thing. Just let black people do their thing. Smh.

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CrimsonRage posted...

there is not a single person who would genuinely support black lives matter if they only changed the name.

yes there are. there are simple people out there

evil_zombie11 posted...

BLM being hijacked by Marxist dogs was the most annoying thing. Just let black people do their thing. Smh.

That's what Marxists always do, find a convenient umbrella to hide under so they don't have to deal with criticism.

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