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Smashingpmkns
07/29/20 11:43:44 PM
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https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/1288611555530113024

Good ol Nuremberg defense.
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LightningAce11
07/29/20 11:44:46 PM
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Then maybe get a different job? Not one that requires you to violate human rights on a day to day basis.
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Frisk
07/29/20 11:46:26 PM
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LightningAce11 posted...
Then maybe get a different job? Not one that requires you to violate human rights on a day to day basis.


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ZeroX91
07/29/20 11:46:27 PM
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I was just following orders is never a good defense

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Solid Snake07
07/29/20 11:46:32 PM
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Tbf nazi has lost any real meaning

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Unsugarized_Foo
07/29/20 11:47:43 PM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Tbf nazi has lost any real meaning


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TheVipaGTS
07/29/20 11:49:37 PM
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LightningAce11 posted...
Then maybe get a different job? Not one that requires you to violate human rights on a day to day basis.
For real. They act like theyre born into these jobs. You chose it. You can choose something else. Youre not just enforcing the law...you either get a kick out of it or dont mind hurting others because the check is good to you. Either way, youre a POS and no better than the comparison you hate.

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CADE FOSTER
07/29/20 11:50:14 PM
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LightningAce11 posted...
Then maybe get a different job? Not one that requires you to violate human rights on a day to day basis.
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MuayThai85
07/29/20 11:50:51 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
For real. They act like theyre born into these jobs. You chose it. You can choose something else. Youre not just enforcing the law...you either get a kick out of it or dont mind hurting others because the check is good to you. Either way, youre a POS and no better than the comparison you hate.

Or maybe, just maybe, they believe in legal immigration?

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Tyranthraxus
07/29/20 11:51:22 PM
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I am ever compelled to point out that in addition to "just following orders" not being an acceptable defense, the Nazis were in fact not "just following orders" in the first place. No one ever ordered them to rape the Jews or flay them alive or starve them to death or any of the other most horrible shit they did.

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Kirby
07/29/20 11:54:45 PM
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CADE FOSTER
07/29/20 11:55:58 PM
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Alt right shit posting as usual
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Zeeak4444
07/29/20 11:57:16 PM
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MuayThai85 posted...
Or maybe, just maybe, they believe in legal immigration?
Then they would have got into Law and would have worked advocating for refining our immigration process.

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legendary_zell
07/30/20 12:17:33 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Tbf nazi has lost any real meaning

I don't see how that's relevant in relation to a police force carrying out racialized violations of human rights through violence, surveillance, and deportations and then defending those actions with the literal Nuremburg defense. Doesn't seem like a wayward comparison.


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The_homelander
07/30/20 12:20:03 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/1288611555530113024

Good ol Nuremberg defense.

they cannot be this stupid. This is on purpose, another dog whistle right?
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Platoe
07/30/20 12:20:58 AM
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The only people who say 'nazi' has lost its meaning would have defended the national socialists in 1936 Germany
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CarrieChan
07/30/20 12:22:48 AM
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Who self deleted post 17?
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RebelElite791
07/30/20 12:23:00 AM
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legendary_zell posted...
I don't see how that's relevant in relation to a police force carrying out racialized violations of human rights through violence, surveillance, and deportations and then defending those actions with the literal Nuremburg defense. Doesn't seem like a wayward comparison.
You're responding to someone who was just saying yesterday that Nazism in America is a liberal ideology. Don't bother.

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ChocoboMog123
07/30/20 12:34:15 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I am ever compelled to point out that in addition to "just following orders" not being an acceptable defense, the Nazis were in fact not "just following orders" in the first place. No one ever ordered them to rape the Jews or flay them alive or starve them to death or any of the other most horrible shit they did.
They did. They systemically exterminated Jews in Germany. Not all of them knew about it, and many were horrified when they saw the evil they were enforcing, but you don't build gas chambers by accident.

As to others, it's one thing to call the high school principal a nazi for banning spaghetti straps, it's another to call out a authoritative President who cheers for violence against his citizens and enables policies which seek to break up families and force children into cages. It's been said before, but "the cruelty is the point," and the people who help to enforce it know what they're signing up for.

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The_Creep_2020
07/30/20 12:40:51 AM
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ChocoboMog123 posted...
As to others, it's one thing to call the high school principal a nazi for banning spaghetti straps, it's another to call out a authoritative President who cheers for violence against his citizens and enables policies which seek to break up families and force children into cages. It's been said before, but "the cruelty is the point," and the people who help to enforce it know what they're signing up for.

Even most white supremacists are just very stupid, very ignorant and ultimately very scared little people. Id even hesitate to call them Nazis. My grandfather was a holocaust survivor, and he was the only one of his family to make it out of WWII alive.

The Trump administration has from day 1 learned a great many lessons from the Nazis. Particularly when it comes to propaganda, blind belief and the demonisation of anything approaching intellectual thought.

Are they Nazis though? No. Not for want of trying, though.

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mybbqrules
07/30/20 12:44:09 AM
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ICE: *resents nazi comparison*

Also ICE: *literally uses nazi's excuse for murdering millions of jews*

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Platoe
07/30/20 12:44:52 AM
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Oh but they're not nazis according to the creep
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Omasitor Hain
07/30/20 12:49:43 AM
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If 'just doing your job' while performing heinous acts doesn't result in internal conflict, maybe you're a simple tool for others to use.
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Tyranthraxus
07/30/20 12:53:01 AM
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ChocoboMog123 posted...
They did. They systemically exterminated Jews in Germany. Not all of them knew about it, and many were horrified when they saw the evil they were enforcing, but you don't build gas chambers by accident.

As to others, it's one thing to call the high school principal a nazi for banning spaghetti straps, it's another to call out a authoritative President who cheers for violence against his citizens and enables policies which seek to break up families and force children into cages. It's been said before, but "the cruelty is the point," and the people who help to enforce it know what they're signing up for.

Systematic extermination, gas chambers and cremation ovens included were all part of orders. If you actually look at the various Nuremberg trials themselves, the high profile ones all went well out of their way & beyond expectations to do all kinds of horrible shit they weren't ordered to do. They were not brow beaten disciplined obedient soldiers. They were enthusiastically and proactively evil without being ordered to do anything.

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The_Creep_2020
07/30/20 12:56:04 AM
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Platoe posted...
Oh but they're not nazis according to the creep

Would you like me to guide you through my post, because you seem to think I am in some way a supporter of what theyre doing. Maybe direct you to some adult reading classes? Seriously, the fuck?

The one saving grace of the Trump administration is that theyre incompetent. Theyre more the Mussolini of fascism. Objectively awful, but inept.

What ICE have been doing is absolutely fucking abhorrent. Completely and utterly. Until they start a program of genocide and euthanising anyone with a disability though, theyre just shithead fascists.

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sktgamer_13dude
07/30/20 12:57:39 AM
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Guys, idk where these Nazi comparisons come from.

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The_Creep_2020
07/30/20 12:57:42 AM
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Oh wait, youre body part philosopher man.

I know I have somehow been a thistle in your bustle, but seriously if you dislike me so much you think Im a fascist apologist, youre very silly.

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Platoe
07/30/20 12:58:51 AM
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The_Creep_2020 posted...
Would you like me to guide you through my post, because you seem to think I am in some way a supporter of what theyre doing
Oh no, no certainly not. I just think you're passively defending them.
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The_Creep_2020
07/30/20 1:01:44 AM
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Platoe posted...
Oh no, no certainly not. I just think you're passively defending them.

Today I learned calling someone a shithead fascist is defending them.

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Platoe
07/30/20 1:03:14 AM
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The_Creep_2020 posted...
Today I learned calling someone a shithead fascist is defending them.
No, that's called a thin veil of plausible deniability
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The_Creep_2020
07/30/20 1:13:41 AM
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Platoe posted...
No, that's called a thin veil of plausible deniability
Oh, wow. The thistle mustnt just be in your bustle, its worked its way up your bum.

As I said, the Trump administration are undoubtedly fascist. Theyve taken far too many moves from the fascist playbook to be anything else and theyve set the stage for all the racists and bigots to think they have a safe space.

Do I think theyre Nazis? No.
Do I think they have the support of Neo-Nazis and white supremacist groups? Yes.
Do I think that Donald Trump and everything he stands for is absolutely abhorrent? Definitely.

Until they start exterminating people, comparing them to Nazis is just giving the alt-right more ammunition for their see, they call everyone they dont like Nazis nonsense rhetoric.

If you think I am somehow passively defending them, you must have really selectively read posts for what you want to see.

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Solid Snake07
07/30/20 3:32:38 AM
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legendary_zell posted...
I don't see how that's relevant in relation to a police force carrying out racialized violations of human rights through violence, surveillance, and deportations and then defending those actions with the literal Nuremburg defense. Doesn't seem like a wayward comparison.


Is ICE marching people into gas chambers and systematically exterminating them based on their race? Cause if not it's at best hyperbolic to compare them to Nazis

RebelElite791 posted...
You're responding to someone who was just saying yesterday that Nazism in America is a liberal ideology. Don't bother.


I did?

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coh
07/30/20 3:38:20 AM
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Nazi comparisons are completely stupid to begin with.
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emagdnE
07/30/20 3:50:49 AM
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ICE: We hate being compared to Nazis!

Also ICE: We were just following orders!!1!1!11!!1!1!! Hey! Why are you comparing us to Nazis again?!
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nfearurspecimn
07/30/20 3:56:40 AM
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this is so perfectly wrong it's comical in a sense

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TreyFlowers
07/30/20 3:59:04 AM
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"As long as the police carries out the will of the leadership, it is acting legally"

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Solid Snake07
07/30/20 4:00:07 AM
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emagdnE posted...
ICE: We hate being compared to Nazis!

Also ICE: We were just following orders!!1!1!11!!1!1!! Hey! Why are you comparing us to Nazis again?!


Yeah, yeah, we get it. Law enforcement are nazis. Everyone's really impressed with your level of edge

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Shablagoo
07/30/20 4:01:49 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Nuremberg defense.


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Shablagoo
07/30/20 4:02:48 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
Yeah, yeah, we get it. Law enforcement are nazis. Everyone's really impressed with your level of edge

Shut the fuck up and stop defending it

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Jerry_Hellyeah
07/30/20 4:06:11 AM
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Id love to hear if one single person in this thread has ever called up a local representative. I get that its easier to just hate online, though.

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Solid Snake07
07/30/20 4:06:47 AM
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Shablagoo posted...
Shut the fuck up and stop defending it


Sit down kiddo. No one's impressed or intimidated with your keyboard dick waving

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Shablagoo
07/30/20 4:09:40 AM
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says da guy whos obviously super-triggered and also defending reprehensible behavior at da same time lmbo

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JE19426
07/30/20 4:11:26 AM
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The_Creep_2020 posted...
Until they start exterminating people, comparing them to Nazis is just giving the alt-right more ammunition for their see, they call everyone they dont like Nazis nonsense rhetoric.

Solid Snake07 posted...
Is ICE marching people into gas chambers and systematically exterminating them based on their race? Cause if not it's at best hyperbolic to compare them to Nazis

These are moronic defences at best. The Nazi's didn't get into power and immediately start killing all the Jews, it took years and years of prep work to do that.
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Solid Snake07
07/30/20 4:12:44 AM
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Shablagoo posted...
says da guy whos obviously super-triggered and also defending reprehensible behavior at da same time lmbo


I'm not the one telling strangers online to shut the fuck up. But sure, I'm the one who's triggered, lol

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LightningAce11
07/30/20 4:14:43 AM
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Dude, just because you've never experienced actual discrimination, been harassed or targeted doesn't mean you can't try and be empathetic towards people who are.
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Solid Snake07
07/30/20 4:16:07 AM
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JE19426 posted...
These are moronic defences at best. The Nazi's didn't get into power and immediately start killing all the Jews, it took years and years of prep work to do that.


It's moronic to not be able to argue your point without calling your opposition Nazis.

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Smashingpmkns
07/30/20 4:18:19 AM
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Solid Snake07
07/30/20 4:19:59 AM
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LightningAce11 posted...
Dude, just because you've never experienced actual discrimination, been harassed or targeted doesn't mean you can't try and be empathetic towards people who are.


I haven't said a single thing regarding my personal views on immigration beyond saying that calling ICE agents nazis makes you sound really uneducated

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Shablagoo
07/30/20 4:23:15 AM
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Ladies & gentlemen, it appears we are witnessing the early stages of a meltdown.

Solid Snake07 posted...
I'm not the one telling strangers online to shut the fuck up. But sure, I'm the one who's triggered, lol

Does that lol make you feel like a big, strong man?

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