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KnightofShikari
07/25/20 11:43:45 AM
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darkprince45 posted...
the officers were posted by the statue.... thats the before. They approached officers posted at the statue and chose easy targets because they were there enclosed
still missing any evidence that shows the cops were clearly not engaging in police brutality before the crowd turned violent though

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darkprince45
07/25/20 11:45:00 AM
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KnightofShikari posted...
still missing any evidence that shows the cops were clearly not engaging in police brutality before the crowd turned violent though
You clearly the see moment they approach the officers and begin throwing stuff and poking in with pvc pipes lmao

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Reiss
07/25/20 11:46:16 AM
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let's wait for ALL the facts
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Shablagoo
07/25/20 11:46:47 AM
#54:


darkprince45 posted...
the cause and effect are based on less than 1 percent of all police to citizen contacts

The cause is the countless examples of police brutality in 2020 (i.e. the last 7 months, most of them since the protests started) in Chicago that I linked, much of them specifically against protesters. Brutality in other areas of the nation helps stoke the fires but these are people who have seen their friends have violence used against them specifically by the police department they are targeting in the OP video.

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RomanRoy
07/25/20 11:48:19 AM
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Shablagoo posted...
The cause is the countless examples of police brutality in 2020 (i.e. the last 7 months, most of them since the protests started) in Chicago that I linked, much of them specifically against protesters. Brutality in other areas of the nation helps stoke the fires but these are people who have seen their friends have violence used against them specifically by the police department they are targeting in the OP video.

So you're saying its ok for people to attack the police over things that happened earlier in the past about their friends? WOW
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KnightofShikari
07/25/20 11:49:51 AM
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darkprince45 posted...
You clearly the see moment they approach the officers and begin throwing stuff and poking in with pvc pipes lmao
at around 4:35 in the video they're approaching, but there's already some others around. who's to say police brutality hadn't already started? wonder why the other side of the video where they're behind the cops only starts after the crowd is violent. carefully edited video is carefully edited.

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Sad_Face
07/25/20 11:51:03 AM
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Literal terrorists trying to topple the police department on top of having to deal with the the amount of gun violence in the city. I'd hate to be a policeman now, let alone work in Chicago.

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darkprince45
07/25/20 11:52:28 AM
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Sad_Face posted...
Literal terrorists trying to topple the police department on top of having to deal with the the amount of gun violence in the city. I'd hate to be a policeman now, let alone work in Chicago.
I know right lol. The last thing I Would be worried about is a Christopher Columbus statue. When theres literal mass shootings at a funeral

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CyricZ
07/25/20 11:54:46 AM
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It's odd that darkprince accuses people for whataboutism when this entire topic is literally created upon whataboutism.

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darkprince45
07/25/20 11:55:22 AM
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CyricZ posted...
It's odd that darkprince accuses people for whataboutism when this entire topic is literally created upon whataboutism.

its not. Im showing an example how these peaceful protests arent actually peaceful at all

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CyricZ
07/25/20 11:58:14 AM
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darkprince45 posted...
its not. Im showing an example how these peaceful protests arent actually peaceful at all
Exactly.

Protests are happening across the country in response to police violence and you make a topic all but saying "but what about the protests that are violent"?

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RomanRoy
07/25/20 11:59:02 AM
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darkprince45 posted...
its not. Im showing an example how these peaceful protests arent actually peaceful at all

Don't bother. Cyric never argues in good faith.

These people are literally throwing objects at police, while the police are simply standing still not doing anything to deserve it. There is NO justification for this. Literally the opposite of peaceful protesters.
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Shablagoo
07/25/20 11:59:44 AM
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RomanRoy posted...
So you're saying its ok for people to attack the police over things that happened earlier in the past about their friends? WOW

Can you point to where I said that? (No, you cant, because I didnt.)

Im saying that it is simple cause-and-effect. If my toddler knocks his cup of milk off the table, it might be an unfortunate turn of events, but itd be illogical not to expect spilled milk.

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darkprince45
07/25/20 11:59:59 AM
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ive yet to see an actual peaceful protest that hasnt resorted to violence . The last peaceful protest I worked 26 officers got injured and that was after responding to buildings being burnt down

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OudeGeuze
07/25/20 12:00:23 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
ive yet to see an actual peaceful protest that hasnt resorted to violence . The last peaceful protest I worked 26 officers got injured and that was after responding to buildings being burnt down
Good
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CyricZ
07/25/20 12:00:25 PM
#66:


RomanRoy posted...
Don't bother. Cyric never argues in good faith.
Oh new account who dis?

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DepreceV2
07/25/20 12:00:29 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Exactly.

Protests are happening across the country in response to police violence and you make a topic all but saying "but what about the protests that are violent"?

Not only that, he is using one example, which is a questionable example, to label all, or at least the majority, of peaceful protests arent peaceful. He gets mad that I called him a Strawman but that is exactly what he is

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Herodopus
07/25/20 12:01:20 PM
#68:


darkprince45 posted...
ive yet to see an actual peaceful protest that hasnt resorted to violence . The last peaceful protest I worked 26 officers got injured and that was after responding to buildings being burnt down
why do you think people are fighting the police and destroying property?
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StarReaper13
07/25/20 12:03:00 PM
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darkprince45 posted...
ive yet to see an actual peaceful protest that hasnt resorted to violence . The last peaceful protest I worked 26 officers got injured and that was after responding to buildings being burnt down
Because the peaceful ones either don't make the news, or as shown in the past have undercover police start shit that leads to riots.

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darkprince45
07/25/20 12:03:08 PM
#70:


good

lmao, stay classy

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VTBM
07/25/20 12:03:29 PM
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I have to wonder why the police aren't just shooting the people who are attacking them? You're a police cop, maybe you could answer that? :o

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darkprince45
07/25/20 12:04:01 PM
#72:


StarReaper13 posted...
Because the peaceful ones either don't make the news, or as shown in the past have undercover police start shit that leads to riots.
There was never any proof that an undercover cop started it lmao. Because somebody dressed in all black had somewhat the same color eyes as a cop. Lmao. Ridiculous. Manpower is stretched so thin right now you think theyre doing that

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CyricZ
07/25/20 12:05:48 PM
#73:


VTBM posted...
You're a police cop
The correct term is "policeman officer".

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Shablagoo
07/25/20 12:06:50 PM
#74:


https://twitter.com/ByMikeBaker/status/1286884473934503936

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StarReaper13
07/25/20 12:12:12 PM
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https://github.com/2020PB/police-brutality

Here's tons of video evidence and whatnot of police starting shit.

I'm not saying my personal opinion on the matter so if you're going to infer or try to say I'm making excuses, here's a preemptive "Shut your fucking mouth", but case after case, people won't be waiting for cops to make the first move if defending themselves will get them arrested and charged just as attacking first would.

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darkprince45
07/25/20 12:14:40 PM
#76:


The bias of police brutality is great.

protestors becoming violent and use violence

cops use gas

police brutality!

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Bananana
07/25/20 12:16:59 PM
#77:


lol @ people arguing with darkprince

pigs are some of the smartest animals alive

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RomanRoy
07/25/20 12:17:36 PM
#78:


darkprince45 posted...
The bias of police brutality is great.

protestors becoming violent and use violence

cops use gas

police brutality!

Thankfully people are seeing right through this nonsense. Some of the protests are peaceful, but MANY are not. The "protesters" then lie to the press and pretend like they didnt just throw frozen water bottles at police to instigate.
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Sad_Face
07/25/20 12:19:03 PM
#79:


RomanRoy posted...
These people are literally throwing objects at police, while the police are simply standing still not doing anything to deserve it. There is NO justification for this. Literally the opposite of peaceful protesters.
What bothers me is how organized it was. They had umbrellas to obscure the views so they can change clothes, drop frozen cans and other objects to throw, they had bikers innocently fencing off between the rioters and the others, and they closed in on the monument like a well fortified Spartan army. The police department even mentions how the rods used for the frame for the BLM banners were sharpened PVC pipes.

CyricZ posted...
Protests are happening across the country in response to police violence and you make a topic all but saying "but what about the protests that are violent"?
Dude, we've had a protests that has ended up with buildings on fire, small businesses destroyed, and statues toppled (with a person injured, no less). A precedent has been set here. No police department should take a chance and let any protest go unsupervised.

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StarReaper13
07/25/20 12:19:06 PM
#80:


darkprince45 posted...
The bias of police brutality is great.

protestors becoming violent and use violence

cops use gas

police brutality!
What did I just say

Shut your mouth because no matter what dumb shit it sprays nobody will be swayed by it.

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Shablagoo
07/25/20 12:19:37 PM
#81:


Got yourself a new alt eh TC

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The_homelander
07/25/20 12:22:55 PM
#82:


darkprince45 posted...
ive yet to see an actual peaceful protest that hasnt resorted to violence . The last peaceful protest I worked 26 officers got injured and that was after responding to buildings being burnt down

wait why are you working at protests? Are you a professional agitator?

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darkprince45
07/25/20 12:26:19 PM
#83:


Shablagoo posted...
Got yourself a new alt eh TC
I have one alt

The_homelander posted...
wait why are you working at protests? Are you a professional agitator?

because sometimes, because of violent protestors, I have to leave my work area against my will and respond to our city being demolished

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Shablagoo
07/25/20 12:26:37 PM
#84:


The_homelander posted...
wait why are you working at protests? Are you a professional agitator?

Id like to know what exactly the injuries were. In the video theyre lamenting that one of the officers attacked has to get his eye checked daily which of course sucks but police have literally blinded at least 8 protesters, all of them peaceful, by shooting rubber bullets and gas canisters into their eyes.

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RomanRoy
07/25/20 12:27:59 PM
#85:


Shablagoo posted...
but police have literally blinded at least 8 protesters, all of them peaceful, by shooting rubber bullets and gas canisters into their eyes.

Proof?
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Shablagoo
07/25/20 12:31:13 PM
#86:


RomanRoy posted...
Proof?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2020/07/14/george-floyd-protests-police-blinding/

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CyricZ
07/25/20 12:33:27 PM
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No he said prove they weren't violent. Ever. At any point in their lives. They have to be perfectly innocent or he won't accept the argument.

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CapnMuffin
07/25/20 12:38:20 PM
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That sucks for anyone hurt or just doing their job, and Im not ignorant to the fact protesters dont get their hands dirty. But I have the feeling history will footnote violent protesters and primarily recall how the police failed their communities and took us down this path.

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Shablagoo
07/25/20 12:39:43 PM
#89:


CyricZ posted...
No he said prove they weren't violent. Ever. At any point in their lives. They have to be perfectly innocent or he won't accept the argument.

Ah crap, I did some more research and it turns out they gave their moms pain during birth. Me = destroyed

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The_homelander
07/25/20 12:42:24 PM
#90:


darkprince45 posted...
I have one alt

because sometimes, because of violent protestors, I have to leave my work area against my will and respond to our city being demolished

what is your job again?
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justaguy3492
07/25/20 12:49:56 PM
#91:


I'm a peaceful protester, my protesting record is perfect and my protesting commander has even given me praise for my exemplary protesting conduct. For these reasons your video evidence is completely invalidated.

Who am I pretending to post as TC?

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Shablagoo
07/25/20 1:00:27 PM
#92:


justaguy3492 posted...
I'm a peaceful protester, my protesting record is perfect and my protesting commander has even given me praise for my exemplary protesting conduct. For these reasons your video evidence is completely invalidated.

Who am I pretending to post as TC?

lmao


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BigDNoExcuses
07/25/20 1:09:09 PM
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I dunno why everyone blames cops more than our fucked up society now. Cuz its easy and braindead and trending?

There thousands of murders, hundreds of thousands of violent crimes like rape and robbery, and the list goes on and on. The United States has a ton of criminal activity. For example people like to point to European countries and say 'their cops never shoot anyone'. Guess what, barely anyone shoots anyone over there. They have a fraction of our crime.

Then cops get antsy and burned out like those working in Chicago where dozens of people get shot over a weekend. They risk their lives and their safety to enforce laws they did not create, and they get all this hate from the criminals they hold accountable swaying public opinion with emotional propaganda and kneejerk bleeding hearts who are easily manipulated. What a joke.
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StarReaper13
07/25/20 1:12:45 PM
#94:


BigDNoExcuses posted...
I dunno why everyone blames cops more than our fucked up society now. Cuz its easy and braindead and trending?

There thousands of murders, hundreds of thousands of violent crimes like rape and robbery, and the list goes on and on. The United States has a ton of criminal activity. For example people like to point to European countries and say 'their cops never shoot anyone'. Guess what, barely anyone shoots anyone over there. They have a fraction of our crime.

Then cops get antsy and burned out like those working in Chicago where dozens of people get shot over a weekend. They risk their lives and their safety to enforce laws they did not create, and they get all this hate from the criminals they hold accountable swaying public opinion with emotional propaganda and kneejerk bleeding hearts who are easily manipulated. What a joke.
Because cops are the ones who are supposed to stop and arrest criminals, not act like criminals. For decades now there have been recorded incidents of terrible cops doing fucked up shit, not even getting into the shit before phones with cameras were everywhere.

If people don't feel safe about the people who were supposed to "protect and serve" what the fuck do you expect from them? I don't expect the average person to be a stellar person, but the average cop isn't something I should have any negative feeling towards.

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HighOnSolar
07/25/20 1:14:09 PM
#95:


darkprince45 posted...
I can count my brain cells on two hands

well hot diggity


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CyricZ
07/25/20 1:14:21 PM
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BigDNoExcuses posted...
What a joke.
I mean about here is where any functioning person would be interested in seeking the "why" behind it all. One can simply say "society", but there are reasons our American society has become this.

And they are big reasons. And they are complex reasons. And they are not reasons that are easy to solve if one's only goal is "less crime".

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darkprince45
07/25/20 1:14:50 PM
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how old are you seriously

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StarReaper13
07/25/20 1:15:31 PM
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Old enough to vote for someone who will hold police more accountable.

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HighOnSolar
07/25/20 1:15:53 PM
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about 3x your brain cells if I had to hazard a guess

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