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Monolith1676
07/21/20 12:08:50 PM
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TommyG663513
07/21/20 12:14:57 PM
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Yeah I'm surprised there wasn't more. I remember one of the livestreams talking of a liquor store burning down with someone trapped inside. I never heard anything further of that.

There is certainly a lot of danger to burning down a building.

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Monolith1676
07/21/20 12:26:44 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
Yeah I'm surprised there wasn't more. I remember one of the livestreams talking of a liquor store burning down with someone trapped inside. I never heard anything further of that.

There is certainly a lot of danger to burning down a building.

Yea it sucks that there was even one.

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Monolith1676
07/21/20 2:31:01 PM
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AlephZero
07/21/20 2:34:46 PM
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Where are all the "people are more important than property, they can just collect the insurance" people

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bobbysjoby2
07/21/20 2:36:10 PM
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AlephZero posted...
Where are all the "people are more important than property, they can just collect the insurance" people

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hockeybub89
07/21/20 2:39:27 PM
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Well I guess police brutality is ok since rioters killed someone.

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Herodopus
07/21/20 2:41:08 PM
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AlephZero posted...
Where are all the "people are more important than property, they can just collect the insurance" people
Right here. Do you think that means we don't give a shit someone got killed for no reason? Like dude, what kinda fumes you huffing to do nothing but copy/paste 24/7, then when you post a supposedly original thought of yours, it's complete bullshit nonsense
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TheGoldenEel
07/21/20 2:46:14 PM
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Reminder that if the police brutality that has been happening for decades had been addressed at any point prior to this recent round of protests none of these riots would have happened

this is still squarely the fault of the people in power for ignoring peaceful protest for literal decades

it took people rioting and burning shit for change to even start happening

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Alteres
07/21/20 2:54:34 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Reminder that if the police brutality that has been happening for decades had been addressed at any point prior to this recent round of protests none of these riots would have happened

this is still squarely the fault of the people in power for ignoring peaceful protest for literal decades

it took people rioting and burning shit for change to even start happening
Look what you made me do?


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Darkrobotisback
07/21/20 2:55:18 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Reminder that if the police brutality that has been happening for decades had been addressed at any point prior to this recent round of protests none of these riots would have happened

this is still squarely the fault of the people in power for ignoring peaceful protest for literal decades

it took people rioting and burning shit for change to even start happening

Rioting and burning shit won't solve anything, if anything police brutality will rise since the local authorities will be left with no choice but to use excessive force to subdue individuals commiting acts of arson or looting.
Worst case scenario, business owners taking matters into their own hands and defending their own property with firearms, weapons or setting up booby traps.

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TheOtherMike
07/21/20 2:55:50 PM
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Alteres posted...
Look what you made me do?

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
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parabola_master
07/21/20 2:56:18 PM
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How did this person go missing for so long before realizing that they burned in the building?

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pick4six
07/21/20 2:58:59 PM
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Sad accident but it is messed up people are going to use this against BLM.

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Bishop9800
07/21/20 3:02:15 PM
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pick4six posted...
Sad accident but it is messed up people are going to use this against BLM.


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TheGoldenEel
07/21/20 3:03:06 PM
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Darkrobotisback posted...
Rioting and burning shit won't solve anything, if anything police brutality will rise since the local authorities will be left with no choice but to use excessive force to subdue individuals commiting acts of arson or looting.
Worst case scenario, business owners taking matters into their own hands and defending their own property with firearms, weapons or setting up booby traps.
right, its just a coincidence that after decades of police brutality, and people peacefully protesting said brutality to deaf ears, that these are the protests actually pushing politicians to enact meaningful reform bills


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Alteres
07/21/20 3:07:34 PM
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You're defending people that burned someone alive for christ's sake.

That is going to far.

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TheGoldenEel
07/21/20 3:09:46 PM
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Alteres posted...
You're defending people that burned someone alive for christ's sake.

That is going to far.
Nobody intentionally burned anyone alive

This was an accident that happened because the actions of police, and the inaction of politicians led to people rioting

riots dont just appear out of nowhere. People dont just get together and say hey lets riot

anger builds up over years of inaction as people feel more and more helpless due to their repeated calls for action being ignored

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ButteryMales
07/21/20 3:09:55 PM
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Alteres posted...
You're defending people that burned someone alive for christ's sake.

That is going to far.
Oh like all those murders in uniform didn't have defenders?
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Herodopus
07/21/20 3:10:05 PM
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Alteres posted...
You're defending people that burned someone alive for christ's sake.

That is going to far.
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rivers
07/21/20 3:19:13 PM
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all right, who signed off on that LOTO

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N3xtG3nGam3r
07/21/20 3:21:56 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Nobody intentionally burned anyone alive

This was an accident that happened because the actions of police, and the inaction of politicians led to people rioting

riots dont just appear out of nowhere. People dont just get together and say hey lets riot

anger builds up over years of inaction as people feel more and more helpless due to their repeated calls for action being ignored
Look, i agree, to an extent--it was an accident most likely, however someone still needs to be held accountable (the person who started the fire).

Your logic that the police and politicians are responsible for the death is the equivalent of saying its ''ok to hit someone because they hurt your feelings''. Its their fault we're in this situation, yes, but our actions are still OUR actions. You kill someone, by mistake, or accident--thats manslaughter.

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Anteaterking
07/21/20 3:22:33 PM
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Lot of assumptions going on here about how this person died, what their relationship with the shop was, etc.

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TheGoldenEel
07/21/20 3:27:48 PM
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N3xtG3nGam3r posted...
Look, i agree, to an extent--it was an accident most likely, however someone still needs to be held accountable (the person who started the fire).

Your logic that the police and politicians are responsible for the death is the equivalent of saying its ''ok to hit someone because they hurt your feelings''. Its their fault we're in this situation, yes, but our actions are still OUR actions. You kill someone, by mistake, or accident--thats manslaughter.
No, it is not the equivalent of its okay to hit someone because they hurt your feelings

its closer to its okay to hit someone who has been hitting you repeatedly for decades although thats not really accurate either

this is not just about feelings. This is about people being oppressed and their lives taken

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thronedfire2
07/21/20 3:28:44 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
Lot of assumptions going on here about how this person died, what their relationship with the shop was, etc.

yeah, the article doesn't even say if the person died in the fire

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Lorthremar
07/21/20 3:31:03 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
No one is defending this. People are saying that there wouldnt have been riots if police accountability had been tackled years ago. As in, this is awful and we wish that it never happened but we also wish that things never got bad enough for it to happen.
this is the correct takeaway from this imo

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Artemis86
07/21/20 3:32:36 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
No, it is not the equivalent of its okay to hit someone because they hurt your feelings

its closer to its okay to hit someone who has been hitting you repeatedly for decades although thats not really accurate either

this is not just about feelings. This is about people being oppressed and their lives taken
Exactly when did the liquor store hit anyone? This isnt a government building or the police or even a corporate entity, its a small business that was destroyed by rioting.

How was burning down a small business and looting their livelihood a strike against the oppressor? Fair world or unfair world, how does that compute?

Unless the police and politicians burned the building down themselves, they did not causw this to happen.
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TheGoldenEel
07/21/20 3:32:46 PM
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For comparison police are not held accountable when collateral damage, injury, and death happen by their actions.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicksibilla/2019/07/18/cop-who-accidentally-shot-10-year-old-when- aiming-for-family-dog-cant-be-sued-federal-court-rules/amp/

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FightingJester
07/21/20 3:33:03 PM
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rivers posted...
all right, who signed off on that LOTO
Lol. I pencil whipped sooooo many of those.

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TheGoldenEel
07/21/20 3:34:22 PM
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Lorthremar posted...
this is the correct takeaway from this imo
Yes, I want to be clear I think its terrible someone died, but I think that part should be inherent and obvious. I suppose it isnt and thats the problem

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Skiggie
07/21/20 3:42:39 PM
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pick4six posted...
Sad accident but it is messed up people are going to use this against BLM.

Don't worry, people will have plenty of other sensible reasons to object to BLM. Like it's founders saying that they are trained Marxists, a prominent activist calling for churches to be vandalized, calling for statues of Presidents to be torn down, desecration of property, calling for cops to be killed or at the very least disbanded, burning and stepping all over the American flag, and it's general history of violence

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Darkrobotisback
07/21/20 7:19:14 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Nobody intentionally burned anyone alive

This was an accident that happened because the actions of police, and the inaction of politicians led to people rioting

riots dont just appear out of nowhere. People dont just get together and say hey lets riot

anger builds up over years of inaction as people feel more and more helpless due to their repeated calls for action being ignored

Pretty sure purposely burning down buildings isn't an accident.
The fuck is that gonna prove anyways? Other than innocent people dying from an otherwise supposed "accident" that could of prevented in the first place.
Does killing innocent people justify the need for riots, does it make their actions any better than a couple of cops who killed people? How many innocent people need to die before people get it through their thick skulls that riots won't change a damn thing? If people want change, then they gotta be more politically involve... vote for congressman or politicians actively against the idea of lack of liabilities for police officers using the use of force/mandate harsher guidelines for police officers who hurt civilians and so on and so forth...


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TheOrgyPorgy
07/21/20 7:23:33 PM
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PrettyBoyFloyd
07/21/20 7:23:43 PM
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Darkrobotisback posted...
Rioting and burning shit won't solve anything, if anything police brutality will rise since the local authorities will be left with no choice but to use excessive force to subdue individuals commiting acts of arson or looting.
Worst case scenario, business owners taking matters into their own hands and defending their own property with firearms, weapons or setting up booby traps.

They did in Little Korea during the LA Riots.

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Politics
07/21/20 7:27:45 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Well I guess police brutality is ok since rioters killed someone.


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TheOtherMike
07/21/20 7:32:28 PM
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Darkrobotisback posted...
How many innocent people need to die before people get it through their thick skulls that riots won't change a damn thing?

This is historically false.
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PrettyBoyFloyd
07/21/20 7:33:09 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Well I guess police brutality is ok since rioters killed someone.

It's not going to stop... I mean completely.

Protesters can kill off and destroy entire cities and it will just have to be taken as a loss.

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TheGoldenEel
07/21/20 7:37:21 PM
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Darkrobotisback posted...
Pretty sure purposely burning down buildings isn't an accident.
The fuck is that gonna prove anyways? Other than innocent people dying from an otherwise supposed "accident" that could of prevented in the first place.
Does killing innocent people justify the need for riots, does it make their actions any better than a couple of cops who killed people? How many innocent people need to die before people get it through their thick skulls that riots won't change a damn thing? If people want change, then they gotta be more politically involve... vote for congressman or politicians actively against the idea of lack of liabilities for police officers using the use of force/mandate harsher guidelines for police officers who hurt civilians and so on and so forth...
Im not saying there is a need for riots

Im saying politicians had decades of peaceful protests that they could have responded to but they didnt

and you are 100% wrong that riots dont cause change because they do and they have throughout the course of history.

this latest round of black lives matter protests has led to far more meaningful change than any one of the past ten years and its also been more violent

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onedarksoul
07/21/20 7:37:28 PM
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"its ok the protestors did it on accident plus you know cops are bad"

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TheGoldenEel
07/21/20 7:38:53 PM
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Like the whole idea that violence cant lead to change is comically misguided in the motherfucking United States of America

have you ever opened a history book?

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Blue_Dream87
07/21/20 7:39:59 PM
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onedarksoul posted...
"its ok the protestors did it on accident plus you know cops are bad"

Where were your dirt pigs when someone burned down a small business? I thought cops prevented crime

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HiddenRoar
07/21/20 7:51:52 PM
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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...
They did in Little Korea during the LA Riots.

Brings up a good point.

Clearly the outcome from it is that the LAPD is now the least corrupt police force in the country, amirite?
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PrettyBoyFloyd
07/21/20 8:11:30 PM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
Where were your dirt pigs when someone burned down a small business? I thought cops prevented crime

And if the criminals don't feel like complying and allowing themselves to get arrested?

Police can't just say "sorry to have bothered you today, we'll be on our way then".

Or should thay start cracking some heads?

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