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UnfairRepresent
07/20/20 12:01:25 PM
#51:


im not 13 posted...

She wants to go against what I want in the relationship to satisfy her friends abnormal requests?

No, thats why she asked if you wanted to do it.

It's up to you, it's not happening without you.
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im not 13
07/20/20 12:07:17 PM
#52:


But such a request would never be entertained in my relationship and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one

The fact she's even suggesting is a huge red flag. Same as if I "suggested" to go cheat.

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UnfairRepresent
07/20/20 12:09:33 PM
#53:


im not 13 posted...
But such a request would never be entertained in my relationship and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one

The fact she's even suggesting is a huge red flag. Same as if I "suggested" to go cheat.

How is this akin to suggesting cheating? You're there too
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Lunar_Savage
07/20/20 12:12:55 PM
#54:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Then say "No, I'm not interested in that dear" why dump her?

Why do you want a relationship with mimimal communication and 0 levels of respect? That's unhealthy.

You're putting a lot of negative assumptions into it.

Where the other guy just put a lot of positive into it. He said that if he had a partner, they would know better than to consider that or ask that based on previous communications. Sounds like you're just trying to twist everything to make the proposed hypothetical acceptable. Which to most of us, is not acceptable.

I also have to pitch a hard no here to this entire thing. If I was with someone, they'd already know better. And if the question was asked, we'd be having a very different conversation than just "no." It's going to launch into a ton of things immediately concerned over our sex life and any lack of satisfaction over it.

But I like most guys, have limits...and that's definitely one of them and watching TC try to impose his own lack of limits onto others makes this a weird topic.

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im not 13
07/20/20 12:13:23 PM
#55:




UnfairRepresent posted...
How is this akin to suggesting cheating? You're there too


According to you, just suggesting something is fine right?

See how far you get suggesting to your partners you want to cheat or have sex with someone else (which is cheating last time I checked)


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UnfairRepresent
07/20/20 12:18:57 PM
#56:


Lunar_Savage posted...

I also have to pitch a hard no here to this entire thing. If I was with someone, they'd already know better. And if the question was asked, we'd be having a very different conversation than just "no." It's going to launch into a ton of things immediately concerned over our sex life and any lack of satisfaction over it.


It's not for your sex life, it's for her friend's husband

Lunar_Savage posted...

But I like most guys, have limits...and that's definitely one of them and watching TC try to impose his own lack of limits onto others makes this a weird topic.


I have made 0 comment or judgement or whether or not you should say yes or no.

The only thing I've called out is the immensely insecure people who would break up with someone they loved because they tried open and honest respectful communication rather than lying and saying anything they assume you want to hear to evade your anger. That's not healthy.
im not 13 posted...


According to you, just suggesting something is fine right?


If you wanted to cheat on the one you loved, communicating that is more healthy then lying about it.

But you're being intentionally intellectually dishonest if you're trying to argue "Well you said communication is a good thing, therefore anything you communicate is automatically good and equal no matter what it is!"

Saying you want to murder people or cheat on people is not the same thing as inviting your partner for some consental sex, nor is it the same thing as offering them coffee.

You're being silly.



See how far you get suggesting to your partners you want to cheat or have sex with someone else (which is cheating last time I checked)



Consentual sex between a group of adults is not cheating no. It's only cheating if you say no and she does it anyway without you. Which wasn't on the cards.
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Lunar_Savage
07/20/20 12:19:59 PM
#57:


UnfairRepresent posted...
It's not for your sex life, it's for her friend's husband

If you wanted to cheat on the one you loved, communicating that is more healthy then lying about it.

But you're being intentionally intellectually dishonest if you're trying to argue "Well you said communication is a good thing, therefore anything you communicate is automatically good and equal no matter what it is!"

Saying you want to murder people or cheat on people is not the same thing as inviting your partner for some consental sex, nor is it the same thing as offering them coffee.

You're being silly.

Consentual sex between a group of adults is not cheating no. It's only cheating if you say no and she does it anyway without you. Which wasn't on the cards.

lol the friends apparently aren't my friends. Because all my guy friends know better than to ask such stupid questions or involve me or my partner in their fucked up bullshit.

Edit: also, bringing the question up in the first place in the relationship, screams something isn't right in the relationship to begin with. The sheer level of honesty you keep trying to hammer in on the other person's proposal(s) will naturally lead us all to believe that there is a deeper problem than being presented. If anything you're really just trying to present everyone with a weird ass litmus test on how much you trust your partner despite all the red flags saying you shouldn't trust them anymore.

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UnfairRepresent
07/20/20 12:21:24 PM
#58:


Lunar_Savage posted...


lol the friends apparently aren't my friends. Because all my guy friends know better than to ask such stupid questions or involve me or my partner in their fucked up bullshit.

It's her best friend and her best friend's husband.

It's his birthday and a foursome is his fantasy.
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im not 13
07/20/20 12:26:00 PM
#59:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Saying you want to murder people or cheat on people is not the same thing as inviting your partner for some consental sex, nor is it the same thing as offering them coffee.

In your world maybe not

But in a lot of other people's saying you want to have sex with someone is a betrayal of trust and is akin to cheating

You can't be that dense to not see the similarities between inviting your partner to an orgy and cheating

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Lunar_Savage
07/20/20 12:26:02 PM
#60:


Also, I know its presented as a hypothetical, but if you have had this presented to you in real life or are thinking of proposing this question to your partner, we should all warn you now...

Either she just gave you all the red flags in the world or you're about to screw your relationship up royally.

Have fun.

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UnfairRepresent
07/20/20 12:30:59 PM
#61:


im not 13 posted...


But in a lot of other people's saying you want to have sex with someone is a betrayal of trust and is akin to cheating


How is it a betrayal of trust?

You're there too with them and they are asking you. That's the complete opposite. Its a monumental display of trust, someone who trusts you and her best friend so much that they have totally let their guard down and still left it up to you.

And the response from you is to break up with someone you love BECAUSE they trusted you so much they wanted to ask you something?

You can't be that dense to not see the similarities between inviting your partner to an orgy and cheating


A foursome is not an orgy.

And no I don't see it, it speaks volumes about you if you don't know what honesty and consent mean.

In fact that's deeply disturbing.
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Lunar_Savage
07/20/20 12:34:41 PM
#62:


UnfairRepresent posted...
How is it a betrayal of trust?

You're there too with them and they are asking you. That's the complete opposite. Its a monumental display of trust, someone who trusts you and her best friend so much that they have totally let their guard down and still left it up to you.

And the response from you is to break up with someone you love BECAUSE they trusted you so much they wanted to ask you something?

A foursome is not an orgy.

And no I don't see it, it speaks volumes about you if you don't know what honesty and consent mean.

In fact that's deeply disturbing.

How many times do you have to hear "we already discussed that BEFORE the relationship" before it clicks for you that it is a violation of trust at that point? Or at the very fucking least, it is communication of a deeper problem rather than pure honesty.

We reject your proposal that the hypothetical is honest and we reject any statement that you yourself are being honest at this point. You are being purposely obtuse and unthinking in your own topic. I find the gimmick hilarious now that I read your username.

That said, still reeks of a cry for help.

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UnfairRepresent
07/20/20 12:38:08 PM
#63:


Lunar_Savage posted...

How many times do you have to hear "we already discussed that BEFORE the relationship"

Literally no one has said that

The guys saying they would break up with the one they love over it are going off on "Well they should already know what I think" and "Well obviously they just want to cheat on me because I suck in bed" and other insecurities.

Lunar_Savage posted...
You are being purposely obtuse

Irony.

Lunar_Savage posted...

We reject your proposal that the hypothetical is honest and we reject any statement that you yourself are being honest at this point.

Considering you literally don't seem to comprehend what honesty means that's a boarderline compliment.
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Lunar_Savage
07/20/20 12:44:29 PM
#64:


Must be a weird life without limits.

How long until you kill a guy?

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UnfairRepresent
07/20/20 12:48:59 PM
#65:


Lunar_Savage posted...
Must be a weird life without limits.

How long until you kill a guy?

lol what?

"Open communication and trust with your girlfriend is a good healthy thing."

"HOW LONG UNTIL YOU MURDER PEOPLE THEN?"

There's taking a right turn at Albuquerque and then there's digging a hole and trying to drive into it.
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Lunar_Savage
07/20/20 12:51:07 PM
#66:


UnfairRepresent posted...
lol what?

"Open communication and trust with your girlfriend is a good healthy thing."

"HOW LONG UNTIL YOU MURDER PEOPLE THEN?"

There's taking a right turn at Albuquerque and then there's digging a hole and trying to drive into it


Isn't shoving horrible concepts onto others fun?

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creativeme
07/20/20 12:55:22 PM
#67:


with the couple in the pic? yea. girl is pretty hot and the dude had no lower half. he looks like he's just above the waist so not like he could fuck my girl. sure he can get handsy with mine but that's it. props to his girl for not leaving him after the accident and is probably craving sex.
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garan
07/20/20 1:24:43 PM
#68:


Lunar_Savage posted...
Isn't shoving horrible concepts onto others fun?


TC's whole shtick is trying to get people to argue with him over completely nonsensical 'hypothetical' ideas. That's why he'll push so hard on something this dumb.
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UnfairRepresent
07/21/20 4:51:05 AM
#69:


garan posted...


TC's whole shtick is trying to get people to argue with him over completely nonsensical 'hypothetical' ideas. That's why he'll push so hard on something this dumb.

lolwut

"communication and honesty is good for a relationship " is dumb?

whereas breaking up with someone you love for communicating and saying its onpar with wanting to murder people is fine?

CE gon CE
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haloiscoolisbak
07/21/20 5:51:43 AM
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nah i'd find this awkward

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