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Hexenherz posted...

It's hard man lol. When they've been inside for so many years they are really cautious and slow and just hang out close to the house and you're like "OK that's not too bad". Then they start wandering away... and bringing back wild animals and everything.

Stopped doing that when the vet said that cats can get heartworm from mosquitoes. They do make topical medicines to prevent that but ugh. Don't even want to risk it!!

You can get them used to things at a young age, like walks on leashes and stuff. If they're used to wearing collars as a kitten they won't even sweat it when you put one on as an adult, and some crave that exercise like a dog.

I definitely feel you - all my experience has been with outdoor non feral cats (a couple in my parents' neighborhood and eight around my apartment), so I didn't feel guilty about them being outside since I never had them inside to begin with. Still, all of them seemed to like visiting indoors, a couple might even have been happy living inside if circumstances were different. I'm 65% leaning towards getting a cat when I renew my lease - kittens are fun (one of the most attached neighborhood cats was an orange kitten), but I've also heard senior cats often get left behind at shelters. Were you guys intending to get two cats at the outset? Or only after seeing how energetic Mulder was?

Oh yeah my first experience with cats was this homeless kitty that would hang around our house, and we started giving her food and she just stuck around. Eventually my mom let her come in for a little bit at a time and she really enjoyed it (the theory was that she was an indoor cat before but someone just left her when they moved). It was Oregon, too, there weren't as many mosquitoes or dangerous bugs there like where we live now.

We only intended on having Mulder at first to be honest. Despite growing up with cats we had only really had experience with multiple cats at once and didn't realize that you really need to have a couple for them to socialize with. Also I think my wife was kind of jealous - she wasn't working after we moved and she spent all day with him but he still just wanted to always spend his time with me lol.

And yeah he was just uncontrollable, he would just "raid" our bed non-stop all night - charge it, jump on it, scratch at our feet and hands/arms and run away. That's when we started doing more research and realized cats generally need furry friends.

I've heard the same thing about older cats having less luck. I think it's not just their size but also the fact that their personalities are a little more set, whereas with kittens I think you have more opportunities to train them and stuff.

Speaking of which my wife finally took her turn sleeping with little Desi last night and apparently she just slept on my pants still, didn't cuddle with her like she did with me :( I hope she grows up feeling comfortable with us both.

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Also I keep having bouts of anxiety that she is going to have some dangerous contagious illness and pass it along to Mulder and Scully, and that would be absolutely devastating. I don't know why I'm so paranoid about that though, she was at the shelter facility directly under veterinary supervision, she had her testing and everything at the end of June and everything was fine then and we're trying to prevent direct contact (though Mulder keeps sneaking upstairs... I think he's spent a total of like 40 minutes over the past few days in the same room as her but he just watches her).

She doesn't have any signs of illness either -_-. Maybe just unfounded anxiety.

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Spent most of the first part of the day with her, she just slept with me. Wife went up to the room to work and hang out with her. Mulder came and laid down on my lap and just purred for a good 40 minutes, and he just ate dinner and is lying down under the blanket with me so I think we're still good.

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Last night she got really cuddly and was pushing her head into me and rubbing against my face. She also had some sneezing fits but I don't know if that's something to be concerned about. She doesn't have any nasal or eye discharge and I was reading that kittens can sneeze even just by running around because the air overstimulates their little noses... I don't know. She also sneezed right in my eye so if she does have something that can get passed to humans I have it 100% -_-

Still has the runs - I'm not sure if that's from the food, maybe we should try something else (we're feeding her Science Diet for kittens). She's going to the bathroom a normal amount for cats, like a couple times a day, though.

Just so cute. Mulder got into the room again, I thought the door was fixed and closed but apparently not. He just chilled there though, I think she's getting used to him. He was in there last night with my wife and me and laid down on the bed a few feet away from Desi and she didn't get agitated just was drowsily and calmly watching him.

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Well that was interesting, we had to get electrical work done upstairs and they said it was going to be a two day project so we moved the kitten down to the basement (which I think is probably more comfortable for her anyway since it's carpeted), but the guy already finished everything today.

Don't know if we should move her back up there or not. Also gonna be weird af sleeping in the bedroom where the outlets work (can watch stuff on our laptops now) and the lights work >_>

Edit: Also an advantage of the basement is that the door is right by the kitchen/dining/living room so our cats have more exposure to it and more chance to get used to the kitten the right way (assuming she goes to the top of the steps).

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food changes can cause diarrhea. my dog's digestive system didn't like the salmon jerky dog treats for well over a month. once i got her back onto chicken jerky she didn't have the diarrhea.

at the time i was trying to get her the chicken jerky but they didn't have any at the time within costco (she has allergies to milkbones) plus they're really bad dog treats.
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I wouldn't have even imagined that they would make salmon treats for dogs lol. Not a food I associate with that flavor of animal.

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I need to check on her, it's been four hours but Mulder is passed out on my lap and I need to make sure he knows I still love him this is hard :(

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Hexenherz posted...

Oh yeah my first experience with cats was this homeless kitty that would hang around our house, and we started giving her food and she just stuck around. Eventually my mom let her come in for a little bit at a time and she really enjoyed it (the theory was that she was an indoor cat before but someone just left her when they moved). It was Oregon, too, there weren't as many mosquitoes or dangerous bugs there like where we live now.

We only intended on having Mulder at first to be honest. Despite growing up with cats we had only really had experience with multiple cats at once and didn't realize that you really need to have a couple for them to socialize with. Also I think my wife was kind of jealous - she wasn't working after we moved and she spent all day with him but he still just wanted to always spend his time with me lol.

And yeah he was just uncontrollable, he would just "raid" our bed non-stop all night - charge it, jump on it, scratch at our feet and hands/arms and run away. That's when we started doing more research and realized cats generally need furry friends.

I've heard the same thing about older cats having less luck. I think it's not just their size but also the fact that their personalities are a little more set, whereas with kittens I think you have more opportunities to train them and stuff.

Speaking of which my wife finally took her turn sleeping with little Desi last night and apparently she just slept on my pants still, didn't cuddle with her like she did with me :( I hope she grows up feeling comfortable with us both.

From your experience, would you recommend getting two kittens or one kitten one older cat? I'm still not sure on pulling the trigger and actually *adopting* (versus the neighborhood cat interactions), but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to get three cats (two kittens and a senior).

I'm also enjoying your updates on Desi's socialization! When Mulder came in did he stare at her? Or just do his own thing?

@Ruvan22 I would definitely recommend two kittens, I think it's a lot less work. You can put them on the same diet, same litter (should use a non-clumping litter until they're at least six months old), they spend a lot of energy playing with each other and socializing and since they're the same size there's less risk of them seriously injuring each other - plus they learn how far they can/should go. And they just get used to each other a lot more easily I think. Though that doesn't mean older cats won't automatically get along with younger cats, but the size disparity can be a little intimidating for the kitten and the older cat might not be as eager to play.

Though older cats do have that disadvantage of not being as easy to adopt out - as long as you've got a good, honest background on the older cat it might not be as challenging (i.e., if they know the cat gets along well with other cats). Then you do need to pay more attention to stuff like the food, which can be a minor inconvenience and extra cost. And I think if you're getting them at the same time then you've got the advantage that neither one has established their territory. Though I think "territory" for cats is more like "social bubble" for humans, at least when talking about indoor cats; some are fine sharing a cat tree, others just want to have a couch to themselves when they're there, etc. That's been my personal experience, maybe someone's had a really overbearing cat who has a favorite room or something :|

He was just staring at her and chilling. Not gonna lie I caved for a few minutes and let him hang out while we played with a string, when she got tired he stepped in and started showing off with his speed and size. She picked up some of his habits already from just those few minutes of interaction, it's pretty awesome. Also she's getting really fast and leaping pretty far! I might have to start recording video of her playing.

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Hexenherz posted...

@Ruvan22 I would definitely recommend two kittens, I think it's a lot less work. You can put them on the same diet, same litter (should use a non-clumping litter until they're at least six months old), they spend a lot of energy playing with each other and socializing and since they're the same size there's less risk of them seriously injuring each other - plus they learn how far they can/should go. And they just get used to each other a lot more easily I think. Though that doesn't mean older cats won't automatically get along with younger cats, but the size disparity can be a little intimidating for the kitten and the older cat might not be as eager to play.

Though older cats do have that disadvantage of not being as easy to adopt out - as long as you've got a good, honest background on the older cat it might not be as challenging (i.e., if they know the cat gets along well with other cats). Then you do need to pay more attention to stuff like the food, which can be a minor inconvenience and extra cost. And I think if you're getting them at the same time then you've got the advantage that neither one has established their territory. Though I think "territory" for cats is more like "social bubble" for humans, at least when talking about indoor cats; some are fine sharing a cat tree, others just want to have a couch to themselves when they're there, etc. That's been my personal experience, maybe someone's had a really overbearing cat who has a favorite room or something :|

He was just staring at her and chilling. Not gonna lie I caved for a few minutes and let him hang out while we played with a string, when she got tired he stepped in and started showing off with his speed and size. She picked up some of his habits already from just those few minutes of interaction, it's pretty awesome. Also she's getting really fast and leaping pretty far! I might have to start recording video of her playing.

Thanks for the thoughts - one of the first cat experiences I had was with a trio of kittens literally brought to my apartment door by another older cat I had befriended. All three were tuxedo/piebald, so I don't think the older cat (grey and white) was their mother. They kept each other busy playing/chasing, so it was a bit easier than having to entertain one kitten by myself.
One reason I'm a bit sympathetic to older cats is due to one of the other cats I met there - an older orange one that seemed to just want a comfortable place to sleep. He didn't eat that much but napped a lot on the carpet and would seek out some head scratches from time to time.. I got the impression he'd lived around the complex for most of his life.

We definitely want to see more pictures and a video of Desi!

@Ruvan22 That is really amazing lol, it's nice to hear that the older cat just delivered the kittens instead of eating them/chasing them away. What happened to the kittens?

I definitely don't think it's a bad idea to get an older cat, just gonna take a little more attention to keep them on their separate diets and the kitten's gonna need more attention and play time (well, they'll both need a lot of attention).

Last night Desi slept on my head which was very unexpected lol. Two nights ago she was very cuddly and rubbing my face with her head but last night she just straight up climbed onto my head and laid down like a furry telephone.

I was reading about contagious diseases and got really scared, too. Apparently cats can get a type of feline coronavirus (not SARS-COV-2/COVID-19, a different one) that they can get over within 7-10 days with mild symptoms... but in 5-10% of cats that get it they can develop Feline Infectious Peritonitis which can take weeks, months or even years to manifest and it has a 95% mortality rate :( It's really terrifying. Thankfully this coronavirus is spread from feces and doesn't survive long in open air but still.

One site said that 50% of cats in single cat households will get this feline coronavirus in their life which is also crazy to me. There's no FDA approved vaccine and no way to test for FIP just to see if the cat ever had the coronavirus in their life.

Really scared the hell out of me tbh.

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Well, left her alone for a couple hours, went to play with her and she was sneezing really bad and had sounds of congestion... Took her to the vet, waiting to see what they say. Might be nothing but I don't like playing around with stuff.

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Hexenherz posted...

@Ruvan22 That is really amazing lol, it's nice to hear that the older cat just delivered the kittens instead of eating them/chasing them away. What happened to the kittens?

I definitely don't think it's a bad idea to get an older cat, just gonna take a little more attention to keep them on their separate diets and the kitten's gonna need more attention and play time (well, they'll both need a lot of attention).

Last night Desi slept on my head which was very unexpected lol. Two nights ago she was very cuddly and rubbing my face with her head but last night she just straight up climbed onto my head and laid down like a furry telephone.

I was reading about contagious diseases and got really scared, too. Apparently cats can get a type of feline coronavirus (not SARS-COV-2/COVID-19, a different one) that they can get over within 7-10 days with mild symptoms... but in 5-10% of cats that get it they can develop Feline Infectious Peritonitis which can take weeks, months or even years to manifest and it has a 95% mortality rate :( It's really terrifying. Thankfully this coronavirus is spread from feces and doesn't survive long in open air but still.

One site said that 50% of cats in single cat households will get this feline coronavirus in their life which is also crazy to me. There's no FDA approved vaccine and no way to test for FIP just to see if the cat ever had the coronavirus in their life.

Really scared the hell out of me tbh.

It really caught me by surprise - the first cat (Nomis) had become friendly to the point where I'd come home from work and she'd be outside my door, come in for a few hours and then wander back out. Then one Saturday I opened the door (she had got used to coming in on the weekends too), my jaw literally dropped to see two of the kittens with her. I left the door open so they could come in and still see an open exit and soon after developed the same pattern; a week or so later I noticed one looked different every time I saw her... and realized there were actually three. Sadly over time all three disappeared.. one (the most sociable, I named Flatty because she had fluffy fur that made her look fat) was missing four months later when I took all of them to get spayed. The second was the only male of the three (named him Shadow because he was the quietest) kept visiting me for almost six months before also disappearing, and Echo (the loudest) kept me company for almost a year and a half. I like to think/hope that all three were formally adopted by others in the apartment complex...

I didn't even consider the risk of COVID for pets - has there been a lot of research into it? Desi sleeping on your head really shows her comfort level! Did either of the others do that?

Lmao that's awesome how you discovered it was actually three and not one. That's a cool surprise. How come ya didn't keep them?? I hope they got a good home.

I have only seen bits and pieces about COVID19 specifically in cats. The last thing I read a month or two ago was that a small group of cats was observed, they showed no symptoms but they were secreting the virus in their saliva or something like that. Seems like it's more dangerous to humans but still wouldn't wanna risk that.

And lol no I've never had a cat sleep on my head. Step on it to get somewhere yes. So that was awesome.

Vet said she's showing signs of early upper respiratory infection, gave us antibiotics to help fend it off and recommended we keep her in the bathroom when we shower (for the steam) and use pure saline drops to help clear her nostrils.

AND she was like "there are three viruses that can cause this and the two most common have vaccines, so your other cats are protected and it's not a big deal if they are exposed to each other." so that's a relief.

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Hexenherz posted...

Lmao that's awesome how you discovered it was actually three and not one. That's a cool surprise. How come ya didn't keep them?? I hope they got a good home.

I have only seen bits and pieces about COVID19 specifically in cats. The last thing I read a month or two ago was that a small group of cats was observed, they showed no symptoms but they were secreting the virus in their saliva or something like that. Seems like it's more dangerous to humans but still wouldn't wanna risk that.

And lol no I've never had a cat sleep on my head. Step on it to get somewhere yes. So that was awesome.

Vet said she's showing signs of early upper respiratory infection, gave us antibiotics to help fend it off and recommended we keep her in the bathroom when we shower (for the steam) and use pure saline drops to help clear her nostrils.

AND she was like "there are three viruses that can cause this and the two most common have vaccines, so your other cats are protected and it's not a big deal if they are exposed to each other." so that's a relief.

A few reasons, but primarily because I've never had fur/feather pets due to worries about my asthma - I remember being pretty miserable in a friend's house just a year before I first met the cats (though in all fairness they had three large dogs and a cat). At first I just petted Nomis and later the kittens, then I'd let them sit on my lap, but never go further than my chest. Surprisingly I didn't have any reactions, despite my apartment having five cats visiting at one point!

Is respiratory infections and other ailments common in young kittens? I never really had to deal with young young kittens, I think the trio were about eight to twelve weeks when I met them.

Well that's really awesome they didn't bug your asthma! I know there are hypoallergenic cats that people with cat allergies can handle just fine, but I didn't think about how they might impact someone with asthma.

Respiratory infections are really common with kittens yes, it's like getting a cold for humans and when they're in confined shelter environments it can spread really quickly.

Going to have to do some extra measures today, she isn't eating (can't smell the food) and her nose is really stopped up. Tried more steam therapy and saline but it hasn't helped. Will probably have to get creative - some people said they mix in kitten formula with meat-based baby foods which might be a temporary solution to get at least some nutrients in her/be able to give her the antibiotics.

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Hexenherz posted...

Well that's really awesome they didn't bug your asthma! I know there are hypoallergenic cats that people with cat allergies can handle just fine, but I didn't think about how they might impact someone with asthma.

Respiratory infections are really common with kittens yes, it's like getting a cold for humans and when they're in confined shelter environments it can spread really quickly.

Going to have to do some extra measures today, she isn't eating (can't smell the food) and her nose is really stopped up. Tried more steam therapy and saline but it hasn't helped. Will probably have to get creative - some people said they mix in kitten formula with meat-based baby foods which might be a temporary solution to get at least some nutrients in her/be able to give her the antibiotics.

Oh no - I hope her appetite comes back! Does she eat treats? You could mix them with some wet food... then again I only cared for older kittens, so I don't have a lot of knowledge about this

We haven't tried but that's actually a really good idea, can see if she can smell/eat it and then if she does sprinkle it over her wet food.

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Hexenherz posted...

We haven't tried but that's actually a really good idea, can see if she can smell/eat it and then if she does sprinkle it over her wet food.

I mixed in treats with some of the dry food (mostly what I fed them) sometimes to get them to eat it - also found that each cat had different tastes, some liked wet food, some liked tuna, some liked sandwich meat, etc

Third day and she didn't eat all day yesterday so I'll probably have to take her to the vet again.

We've tried everything, tried the shower steaming therapy (with the food in the bathroom so the steam would maybe help her smell it), tried heating the food up on the stove, tried the low quality food the vet repeatedly said we should only give her for emergency purposes because it's got terrible ingredients.

Also didn't sleep at all last night, I kept freaking out she was gonna stop breathing. Wife slept downstairs with Mulder and Scully, she's *still* asleep -_- I'm jealous.

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I hope she gets her appetite back! What did she do instead of sleep?

Poor kitty! Hope things get better, so I'm followin' this thread.

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Ruvan22 posted...

I hope she gets her appetite back! What did she do instead of sleep?

Oh lol I mean I didn't sleep, she slept more or less OK.

We tried heating up Wellness which already reeks, now the whole first floor smells like nasty chicken feces lol.

Got another appointment with the vet today -_-.

TheOrgyPorgy posted...

Poor kitty! Hope things get better, so I'm followin' this thread.

Thanks! Will keep everyone updated. She is still really active and found a new home in her little toy box.

Will put up photos later.

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They gave her fluids and then gave us a prescription for a drug that increases appetite, and makes them more vocal, and makes them more hyperactive. She ate a lot of food afterwards which is great... got ANOTHER appointment on Monday for an antibiotics shot. Also my wife left the refrigerated antibiotics out for the past two days apparently so there goes that -_- Thankfully I don't think we need them just because of the appointment on Monday. At a minimum it will be another $60...

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Hexenherz posted...

They gave her fluids and then gave us a prescription for a drug that increases appetite, and makes them more vocal, and makes them more hyperactive. She ate a lot of food afterwards which is great... got ANOTHER appointment on Monday for an antibiotics shot. Also my wife left the refrigerated antibiotics out for the past two days apparently so there goes that -_- Thankfully I don't think we need them just because of the appointment on Monday. At a minimum it will be another $60...

Guess your wife is sleeping in the fridge tonight! (Mods, jk jk jk)

Lol, I had to try hard not to be like "dude what the hell?" thought about it and realized making a deal out of it wouldn't make a difference so let that one go.

How is your cat search going, Ruvan? Or were you talking further down the road?

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Hexenherz posted...

Lol, I had to try hard not to be like "dude what the hell?" thought about it and realized making a deal out of it wouldn't make a difference so let that one go.

How is your cat search going, Ruvan? Or were you talking further down the road?

Hexenherz posted...

Lol, I had to try hard not to be like "dude what the hell?" thought about it and realized making a deal out of it wouldn't make a difference so let that one go.

How is your cat search going, Ruvan? Or were you talking further down the road?

Hexenherz posted...

Lol, I had to try hard not to be like "dude what the hell?" thought about it and realized making a deal out of it wouldn't make a difference so let that one go.

How is your cat search going, Ruvan? Or were you talking further down the road?

Haha - definitely true, in some ways you are fortunate to have a partner who is as invested in the cats as you. My search is a bit delayed, but I do have to renew my apartment lease in the next month. If I decide to stay I will likely get two friends - my biggest hang up is that I've never actually lived with a cat, just had them visit. At the same time, I realize I'm (somewhat) making excuses!

Ugh Mulder got in again but he has been so chill we didn't bother them and they were doing just fine in the same room. Then Desi tried to jump to get a toy and ran across his tail and he freaked out and started growling and now she is cuddly with my wife but whenever I try to pet her she kind of shies away. And she's sleeping alone in the dresser now (she found a new soft spot to sleep in), if I go to pet her she jumps down and hides under a cat tree and I don't know why -_-.

Living with cats is probably just like having cats visiting with the added benefit that you know they're safe at home and you can cuddle with them (well... unless they get weird on you I guess).

And honestly she's a lot better at the dirty work, like if we ever have to give them baths she's the one to do it because she isn't afraid to be a little more strict to handle them and stuff, whereas they start squirming and I let them go >_> A lot of the care can be done by one person for sure, you just have to be more assertive about it when you don't have someone else to rely on.

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It's 2 PM and I don't know where the time has gone, just friggin' worn out between yard work in the heat yesterday and two days of not sleeping well. In the morning she started coming back to me and cuddling and grabbing my head with her paw and rubbing my face with hers so everything is good there. Her nose seems to have cleared up a lot, she ate breakfast and was exploring the house more and actually smelling a lot of things which I think is good.

I guess she got tired because she went back to her bedroom upstairs and is fast asleep. I need to take a break just so tired, might play a game for a bit. Probably already said it but I haven't played anything or really watched anything all week and we didn't even stay in our bedroom for a good year and a half up until now so it's weird being there without any noise or anything.

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Hexenherz posted...

It's 2 PM and I don't know where the time has gone, just friggin' worn out between yard work in the heat yesterday and two days of not sleeping well. In the morning she started coming back to me and cuddling and grabbing my head with her paw and rubbing my face with hers so everything is good there. Her nose seems to have cleared up a lot, she ate breakfast and was exploring the house more and actually smelling a lot of things which I think is good.

I guess she got tired because she went back to her bedroom upstairs and is fast asleep. I need to take a break just so tired, might play a game for a bit. Probably already said it but I haven't played anything or really watched anything all week and we didn't even stay in our bedroom for a good year and a half up until now so it's weird being there without any noise or anything.

I'm glad her energy/curiosity has climbed back up, always a good sign! How come you haven't had much downtime lately?

just work stress and the stress of trying to take care of a sick cat and trying to give time to the other cats, too, it's tiring lol. I just take things too seriously sometimes.

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pics of you + cats

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Soon >_> I have been lazy it's my first day on my computer in like a week.

She was chilling in the living room with us and dozing off, then she woke up and left to go back to the bedroom... hopefully in time she comes to realize this is her house too. Maybe it's the trash TV we're watching that kept her awake.

edit: UPDATE she came back! She's looking out the window now.

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Hexenherz posted...

Soon >_> I have been lazy it's my first day on my computer in like a week.

She was chilling in the living room with us and dozing off, then she woke up and left to go back to the bedroom... hopefully in time she comes to realize this is her house too. Maybe it's the trash TV we're watching that kept her awake.

edit: UPDATE she came back! She's looking out the window now.

Are there birds or other animals she's seeing out the window?

I know *having* cats isn't that different from letting them visit daily, but I'm not sure what to expect fur/dander wise.. and part of me would want them to still have some outside expose (maybe on a leash?)

Oh yeah there's all sorts of random wildlife around here throughout the day - squirrels, birds, lizards, turtles, sometimes deer and fox >_>

If you take them outside you'll want to make sure you're giving them flea/tick/mosquito/heartworm medication (they make all-in ones that you apply to their skin).

Yeah fur and dander might be a lot different. We bought a pretty large air purifier recently and I thought that would actually do more to help keep this stuff from building up on the floor but it doesn't... still big tufts of fur scattered around.

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Hexenherz posted...

Oh yeah there's all sorts of random wildlife around here throughout the day - squirrels, birds, lizards, turtles, sometimes deer and fox >_>

If you take them outside you'll want to make sure you're giving them flea/tick/mosquito/heartworm medication (they make all-in ones that you apply to their skin).

Yeah fur and dander might be a lot different. We bought a pretty large air purifier recently and I thought that would actually do more to help keep this stuff from building up on the floor but it doesn't... still big tufts of fur scattered around.

The neighborhood cat that visited my parents' house would bring all kinds of offerings.. somehow even a rabbit! All the cats around my old apartment never did though, but the three kittens especially liked exploring outside. How frequently do you have to clean fur up around the house?

So we have a shorter furred cat and a longer furred cat (look up Somalis for an idea), and we generally have to at least sweep like once a week.

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She slept downstairs with us last night, well on a cat tree that's about level with the sleeper soda. She did get to cuddle between us for a while but I had to keep stopping my wife from rolling over on her. Mulder still pretty chill, Scully hisses and growls but isn't aggressive. Now when she gets closer to one of the bigger cats she beeps like "don't hurt me I'm just passing by", so cute

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