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https://imgur.com/20PVUPU

these are the hands i'll play in most situations

so i'm only playing about 12.5% of possible hand combinations

is it too tight or too loose?
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Add in every suited ace, 78s-T9s, and that would be a solid 6max utg opening range

I think that's a fine 10 max utg opening range, nitty af otherwise tho

Where do you play?

tm315 posted...

Add in every suited ace, 78s-T9s, and that would be a solid 6max utg opening range

I think that's a fine 10 max utg opening range, nitty af otherwise tho

thanks

thinking about adding in 7-8S and T-9S, i'll probably add those back in

but Ace-suited hands suck so much

if i miss the flush draw (89% of the time), my best case scenario is top pair weak kicker. this puts me in a super uncomfortable scenario, where i'm not sure where i stand and i'm out of position most of the time

had a hand last night where i opened with ATs, got reraised 3.5x and had to call (got good pot odds since someone else called). i hit the ace but was worried the guy had AA or AK. Did a lot of check/calling until i realized the guy had Kings, bet the river and he folded. But if he bet more than half pot or shoved at any point I probably would have folded

I do play ATs and A9s on the button if there's been some folds. I'm not a fan of AXs when the X is a small card, hoping to make the straight. The Ace to 5 straight is the most frustrating one in existence. The royal straight is also frustrating, because to make those 2 straights you really need those 5 exact cards to land, so you're always relying on inside draws or gut shots which have a low chance. At least with the royal straight with AJ+, you have 2 good chances to hit top pair
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tm315 posted...

Where do you play?

i play on the pokerrr app, club cash games
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I have no idea what that means

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dj1200 posted...

I have no idea what that means

i explained what it means in the OP...
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No_U_L7 posted...

i play on the pokerrr app, club cash games

Do you win money? What are big blinds/small blinds? How is the rake?

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bestknicksfan posted...

Do you win money? What are big blinds/small blinds? How is the rake?

Its different for every club

Blinds are 0.25/0.5 with $20 min buy in. I used to do the min but just started doing 50 so I'm not short stacked. I've played 4 times and won every time. I was the big winner last night as I got lucky and am really refining my play lately. Rake is 6% capped at $4. However our club has a lot of bonuses (free rolls, quads, royal flush, etc)
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Position also matters. Im raising 10-8 suited from the button and cutoff but not from utg etc...

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Kazi1212 posted...

Position also matters. Im raising 10-8 suited from the button and cutoff but not from utg etc...

I def loosen up a bit on the button, playing suited one gappers and baby pairs. But I only do that if limped or folded around to me and i don't raise. Should I be raising those?
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If it's folded to you you should absolutely open, you should limp a handful of times, even 66 is a raise, in cash games at least, in tournaments you gotta account for ICM and such.

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CloneTheHero posted...

way too tight. you pretty much turn your cards face up playing that range

what do you add in?
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Play all the blue squares and JTs. JTo if you're feeling risky.

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Kazi1212 posted...

If it's folded to you you should absolutely open, you should limp a handful of times, even 66 is a raise, in cash games at least, in tournaments you gotta account for ICM and such.

ok yeah, i'd raise 66 a good chunk of the time, 4-4 or lower and i'm probably limping in
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You DEFINITELY have to play J10s, they have the most equity against aces, that and A5s

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Tyranthraxus posted...

Play all the blue squares and JTs. JTo if you're feeling risky.

JTs is in the range already. JTo I actually like, but it's bad UTG if i get reraised as i have to fold. mid to late (and def on the button) position i'm playing that

those baby pocket pairs are infuriating. if i limp or raise and get re-raised it hurts me to call and then 88% of the time i'm missing the set and have to fold
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No_U_L7 posted...

and i'm out of position most of the time

Okay, then I agree, I am not playing oop most times when I raise utg. I still think you should be opening those hands co, BTN and SB.

I understand on those poker apps people play very loosely, and most pots go multi-way, so it makes a lot of sense to play a really tight range and just print money by getting called when you have a monster.

Might wanna try opening some more hands in later positions though.

Kazi1212 posted...

You DEFINITELY have to play J10s, they have the most equity against aces, that and A5s

you're a fan of suited aces or just A5S? why that one in particular?
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CloneTheHero posted...

way too tight. you pretty much turn your cards face up playing that range

If you're playing with a lot fish, this does not matter

Useless chart, the value of a hand varies depending how many people are in the round and how they've been playing up until that point

AK is pretty a pretty decent start 1v1 but if you're up against 3 or more people then good luck with that

And it will take a good player no time at all to figure out your system

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No_U_L7 posted...

JTs is in the range already. JTo I actually like, but it's bad UTG if i get reraised as i have to fold. mid to late (and def on the button) position i'm playing that

those baby pocket pairs are infuriating. if i limp or raise and get re-raised it hurts me to call and then 88% of the time i'm missing the set and have to fold

The baby pockets suck but they're good enough to at least see the flop IMO.

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tm315 posted...

Okay, then I agree, I am not playing oop most times when I raise utg. I still think you should be opening those hands co, BTN and SB.

I understand on those poker apps people play very loosely, and most pots go multi-way, so it makes a lot of sense to play a really tight range and just print money by getting called when you have a monster.

Might wanna try opening some more hands in later positions though.

ok yeah i'm still refining. the hands alternate between multi way to lots of re-raising. if it goes multi way i've noticed most people fold to a single bet and it goes h2h after the flop quite often
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No_U_L7 posted...

you're a fan of suited aces or just A5S? why that one in particular?

A5s in particular has the most equity against aces, though I'm a fan of most suited aces outside of A6s and A7s, you gotta have some suited aces in your fold range.

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tm315 posted...

If you're playing with a lot fish, this does not matter

no one i play with is that good, only a couple of fish

BlockAddition posted...

Useless chart, the value of a hand varies depending how many people are in the round and how they've been playing up until that point

AK is pretty a pretty decent start 1v1 but if you're up against 3 or more people then good luck with that

And it will take a good player no time at all to figure out your system

well yeah, this chart is a starting point. i'm planning on making charts for UTG, mid and button. This is the one for UTG

Tyranthraxus posted...

The baby pockets suck but they're good enough to at least see the flop IMO.

so can you explain what you do with 2-2 and 3-3 UTG? and when someone raises/reraises

our blinds are 0.25/0.5
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Kazi1212 posted...

A5s in particular has the most equity against aces, though I'm a fan of most suited aces outside of A6s and A7s, you gotta have some suited aces in your fold range.

i supose A5s is the best out of those, A2s is atrocious because if the flop comes 3-4-5 you get beat by 6-7 lol
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DuranOfForcena posted...

if you only play the good hands and fold the bad hands, then people are gonna wise up and fold any time you make a bet. you can't play according to a formula where you always play certain hands and never play others. you have to be unpredictable.

yeah, but it seems like most people just play the cards. if i raise 3x wit A-Q and someone has A-J they're still calling (in my games)

this does happen a bit, i hit 2.5x buy in last night and i stopped getting action. i just raised 6-6 a couple of times to get some added value from that. i'm trying really hard to pick my spots very carefully in a +ev manner
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CloneTheHero posted...

cold call on 22-55, dont raise or 3 bet. with these hands you just want to see the flop, if you miss you miss, and you can fold, if you hit, you should bet

so let's say i limp UTG for 0.5, if someone raises to $1 do you call? $1.50?
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Overall, my comments are this is an excellent range for a beginner, but you definitely have loosen up a bit as you play more. Not including hands like 89s,78s,56s will punish you in the long run.

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Kazi1212 posted...

Overall, my comments are this is an excellent range for a beginner, but you definitely have loosen up a bit as you play more.

yeah and i am a beginner, i'm just getting into the more advanced stuff. i used to play 0.05/0.1 games with my friends so that was super loosey goosey
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Watch Doug Polk videos if youre looking to improve. As a former pro, his videos helped me get started a lot.

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Kazi1212 posted...

Watch Doug Polk videos if youre looking to improve. As a former pro, his videos helped me get started a lot.

i watch his stuff all the time, they're great
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CloneTheHero posted...

cold call on 22-55, dont raise or 3 bet. with these hands you just want to see the flop, if you miss you miss, and you can fold, if you hit, you should bet

It really depends. I think I'm usually folding these to an open, because you will usually end up having to fold on the flop or turn, and you won't make up for it enough times when you do hit. If you know the other guy is super strong somehow, then you could call.

No_U_L7 posted...

so let's say i limp UTG for 0.5, if someone raises to $1 do you call? $1.50?

I definitely don't ever limp, but some people have good limping strats.

It's not a bad opening range, I open about 16% UTG. But I think I get more folds preflop. If there's a lot of multi-way pots and 3-bet/4-bet pots, I would play pretty tight too. If I knew this was your utg range, I wouldn't have been so critical

No_U_L7 posted...

so can you explain what you do with 2-2 and 3-3 UTG? and when someone raises/reraises

our blinds are 0.25/0.5

Depends on what they raise by and how much you have to work with. I've got no issue calling a small raise on a 2-2. I'll fold if they're all in.

If I'm very far ahead I'll just start going all in every hand regardless of how bad it is and just hope no one ever pulls an A-A or anything else really strong.

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