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saspa
07/11/20 3:48:26 PM
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Kinda curious how this weird show ended. I watched the first 2 episodes and was like meh. Definitely want to know how they wrap it up after already introducing all major villains when Bruce is supposed to be like, 10?
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Gobstoppers12
07/11/20 3:52:01 PM
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I haven't watched the show, myself, but I've seen the final scene:

(Spoilers for Gotham)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BENnBjGvlJ4

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Extreme_light
07/11/20 3:54:11 PM
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saspa posted...
Kinda curious how this weird show ended. I watched the first 2 episodes and was like meh. Definitely want to know how they wrap it up after already introducing all major villains when Bruce is supposed to be like, 10?

The show picked up considerably after the first season.

But yeah the video above was happening (but it was being built up to all episode).

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saspa
07/11/20 4:15:07 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
I haven't watched the show, myself, but I've seen the final scene:

(Spoilers for Gotham)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BENnBjGvlJ4

Omg lol I can't, I just can't. That penguin and riddler walk would be perfect in one of the numerous sketch comedy shows.

Also that guy in the hat with the long hair... is that Bob from 1989's Batman??!!!
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SuperExcitebike
07/11/20 4:47:43 PM
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The older Catwoman in the final episodes was fiiine

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pegusus123456
07/11/20 5:19:17 PM
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To sum up. And this is going to sound really dumb because...well, because Gotham is really dumb. But it honestly makes it work.

In the penultimate season, Jerome Valeska - Gotham's version of the Joker - is killed. Before he dies, he sends a gift box of laughing gas (essentially Joker Venom + fear toxin) to his twin brother, Jeremiah. Jeremiah was essentially a good dude who had struck up a friendship with Bruce, but the gas drove him insane and turned that friendship into an obsession. While Jerome was the more manic interpretation of the Joker, Jeremiah is the colder, more calculating one. He plans to detonate giant bombs in strategic locations, toppling buildings and turning Gotham into a giant "maze," but his plans are thwarted. It's then that R'as Al Ghul allies with him, eventually leading to R'as' death and all of the bridges in Gotham being destroyed.

This leads the final season to being a loose adaptation of No Man's Land. It becomes an amazing mess. The main plotline is that the Secretary of Homeland Security is ultimately revealed to be Nyssa al Ghul. She wants to destroy Gotham for killing her father. She has Hugo Strange put mind control chips in the Riddler. Under her influence, Riddler blows up a building full of refugees to show the US government that the city's just full of criminals. She subsequently sends in a military squad led by one of Gordon's former military buddies, Eduardo Dorrance. After shenanigans, Gordon ends up on the hitlist and Dorrance ends up being badly injured. So what happens then? Nyssa has Huge Strange turn the dude into Bane.

In the midst of all this, Bruce and Selina are hunting down Jeremiah but ultimately fail. Jeremiah has had his forces build a tunnel under Wayne Manor and had a plastic surgeon turn two random people into lookalikes of the Waynes. With the help of the Mad Hatter, he has the lookalikes and Alfred hypnotized into thinking they're the Waynes too. He leads Bruce and the "Waynes" to the theater where a homemade Mask of Zorro is playing with Jeremiah as the star, taunting Bruce. He's essentially jealous that some random mugger forged such a deep connection with Bruce by killing his parents, so this is him try to retcon himself into Bruce's origin story. Which is actually a pretty cool idea for the Joker.

While that's happening, he's also planning to flood the river around Gotham with toxic chemicals to stop Gotham from rejoining the mainland. Lee Thompkins and Gordon sneak into the Ace Chemicals building to try and stop that, but they're caught and Jeremiah decides to use them as Bruce's surrogate parents instead of the lookalikes. So when Bruce gets to the alley, the two of them are hypnotized and ready to get shot. Obviously, that fails and Bruce and Jeremiah end up fighting in the Ace Chemicals building. You can probably guess what happens.

The last plotline is that Penguin's living large in this situation. When Riddler gets his chip removed, he convinces Penguin that they should get out of the city and try to build a submarine to escape. After some interruption from Penguin's secretary who has gone insane and is now taking orders from a puppet called Scarface, they get the sub up and running.

The climax is when Nyssa has a mind-controlled general order the destruction of Gotham. Everyone - including Penguin and Riddler - joins forces to hold back the army. I forget exactly how it happens, but they stop the army. Nyssa tries kidnapping Gordon's newborn baby, but that fails too and she escapes with Riddler's submarine.

The final episode's a timeskip ten years into the future. It's kind of blah honestly, mostly just setting up that oh yeah Batman exists.

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pegusus123456
07/11/20 6:58:34 PM
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Just felt like sharing this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmYlfBjdZyM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g6__Vk1MI0

Should probably be mentioned that Penguin is gay in this adaptation. At one point - and possibly at all points - he's in love with the Riddler. There's never any indication that Riddler returns the feelings. I always assumed it's just because Ed is straight.

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saspa
07/12/20 1:22:56 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
To sum up. And this is going to sound really dumb because...well, because Gotham is really dumb. But it honestly makes it work.

In the penultimate season, Jerome Valeska - Gotham's version of the Joker - is killed. Before he dies, he sends a gift box of laughing gas (essentially Joker Venom + fear toxin) to his twin brother, Jeremiah. Jeremiah was essentially a good dude who had struck up a friendship with Bruce, but the gas drove him insane and turned that friendship into an obsession. While Jerome was the more manic interpretation of the Joker, Jeremiah is the colder, more calculating one. He plans to detonate giant bombs in strategic locations, toppling buildings and turning Gotham into a giant "maze," but his plans are thwarted. It's then that R'as Al Ghul allies with him, eventually leading to R'as' death and all of the bridges in Gotham being destroyed.

This leads the final season to being a loose adaptation of No Man's Land. It becomes an amazing mess. The main plotline is that the Secretary of Homeland Security is ultimately revealed to be Nyssa al Ghul. She wants to destroy Gotham for killing her father. She has Hugo Strange put mind control chips in the Riddler. Under her influence, Riddler blows up a building full of refugees to show the US government that the city's just full of criminals. She subsequently sends in a military squad led by one of Gordon's former military buddies, Eduardo Dorrance. After shenanigans, Gordon ends up on the hitlist and Dorrance ends up being badly injured. So what happens then? Nyssa has Huge Strange turn the dude into Bane.

In the midst of all this, Bruce and Selina are hunting down Jeremiah but ultimately fail. Jeremiah has had his forces build a tunnel under Wayne Manor and had a plastic surgeon turn two random people into lookalikes of the Waynes. With the help of the Mad Hatter, he has the lookalikes and Alfred hypnotized into thinking they're the Waynes too. He leads Bruce and the "Waynes" to the theater where a homemade Mask of Zorro is playing with Jeremiah as the star, taunting Bruce. He's essentially jealous that some random mugger forged such a deep connection with Bruce by killing his parents, so this is him try to retcon himself into Bruce's origin story. Which is actually a pretty cool idea for the Joker.

While that's happening, he's also planning to flood the river around Gotham with toxic chemicals to stop Gotham from rejoining the mainland. Lee Thompkins and Gordon sneak into the Ace Chemicals building to try and stop that, but they're caught and Jeremiah decides to use them as Bruce's surrogate parents instead of the lookalikes. So when Bruce gets to the alley, the two of them are hypnotized and ready to get shot. Obviously, that fails and Bruce and Jeremiah end up fighting in the Ace Chemicals building. You can probably guess what happens.

The last plotline is that Penguin's living large in this situation. When Riddler gets his chip removed, he convinces Penguin that they should get out of the city and try to build a submarine to escape. After some interruption from Penguin's secretary who has gone insane and is now taking orders from a puppet called Scarface, they get the sub up and running.

The climax is when Nyssa has a mind-controlled general order the destruction of Gotham. Everyone - including Penguin and Riddler - joins forces to hold back the army. I forget exactly how it happens, but they stop the army. Nyssa tries kidnapping Gordon's newborn baby, but that fails too and she escapes with Riddler's submarine.

The final episode's a timeskip ten years into the future. It's kind of blah honestly, mostly just setting up that oh yeah Batman exists.

Wow. Gotham wasn't a CW show was it?
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Takuya Lee
07/12/20 1:53:14 PM
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saspa posted...
Wow. Gotham wasn't a CW show was it?

Fox

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