Current Events > averagejoel is WARNED

Topic List	Page List: 1, 2
scar the 1 07/10/20 10:00:49 AM #51:	ASithLord7 posted... Lol he loses his shit any time Churchill is mentioned I don't blame him considering Churchill is not only responsible for the Bengal famine but also for one of the largest ethnic cleansings in modern times, and numerous other horrendous things yet he's revered as a hero. It's pretty weird --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:941924541] in averagejoe... [t:78836859]...</cite> <quote>ASithLord7 posted... </cite> <quote>Lol he loses his shit any time Churchill is mentioned</quote>I don't blame him considering Churchill is not only responsible for the Bengal famine but also for one of the largest ethnic cleansings in modern times, and numerous other horrendous things yet he's revered as a hero. It's pretty weird </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrPeppers 07/10/20 10:01:55 AM #52:	scar the 1 posted... I don't blame him considering Churchill is not only responsible for the Bengal famine but also for one of the largest ethnic cleansings in modern times, and numerous other horrendous things yet he's revered as a hero. It's pretty weird I think you don't blame him because if you aren't a full-on communist then you sympathize with them to a very concerning degree. --- https://imgur.com/SGkkbF0 <cite>MrPeppers posted [p:941924570] in averagejoe... [t:78836859]...</cite> <quote>scar the 1 posted... </cite> <quote>I don't blame him considering Churchill is not only responsible for the Bengal famine but also for one of the largest ethnic cleansings in modern times, and numerous other horrendous things yet he's revered as a hero. It's pretty weird</quote> I think you don't blame him because if you aren't a full-on communist then you sympathize with them to a very concerning degree. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 07/10/20 10:04:36 AM #53:	Balrog0 posted... Do you think average Joel would defend Churchill the way he defended Stalin? Probably not, but I've literally had the exact same people attacking joel in this topic make the exact same arguments Joel makes in regards to the weather when it comes to the Bengal famine. So that goes both way. Both where bad, both could have been avoided. The problem is that we condemn Stalin for it because he was a despot and we clap for Churchill because he was the great hero of the war. Which of course ignores the fact that the vast majority of the german military machine died in Russia between 1941 and 44. TLDR Stalin and Chruchill are both, but history only teaches us that Stalin is bad. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:941924630] in averagejoe... [t:78836859]...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted... </cite> <quote>Do you think average Joel would defend Churchill the way he defended Stalin?</quote>Probably not, but I've literally had the exact same people attacking joel in this topic make the exact same arguments Joel makes in regards to the weather when it comes to the Bengal famine. So that goes both way. Both where bad, both could have been avoided. The problem is that we condemn Stalin for it because he was a despot and we clap for Churchill because he was the great hero of the war. Which of course ignores the fact that the vast majority of the german military machine died in Russia between 1941 and 44. TLDR Stalin and Chruchill are both, but history only teaches us that Stalin is bad. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 07/10/20 10:04:55 AM #54:	MrPeppers posted... May I ask why, exactly? Whether or not you consider the Holodomor a genocide doesn't excuse Stalin's actions and serves to show a very concerning set of biases you espouse. Not sure what you're asking. Why what? I agree it doesn't excuse his actions. Stalin was pretty brutal regardless. My point is that so were the leaders of the west, yet they are still regarded as heroes. I think that sucks, because then it feels like Stalin gets criticism not because he was bad but because he was bad on the wrong side. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:941924637] in averagejoe... [t:78836859]...</cite> <quote>MrPeppers posted... </cite> <quote>May I ask why, exactly? Whether or not you consider the Holodomor a genocide doesn't excuse Stalin's actions and serves to show a very concerning set of biases you espouse.</quote>Not sure what you're asking. Why what? I agree it doesn't excuse his actions. Stalin was pretty brutal regardless. My point is that so were the leaders of the west, yet they are still regarded as heroes. I think that sucks, because then it feels like Stalin gets criticism not because he was bad but because he was bad on the wrong side. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 07/10/20 10:05:26 AM #55:	MrPeppers posted... I think you don't blame him because if you aren't a full-on communist then you sympathize with them to a very concerning degree. Churchill was a virulent racist, so Im not comfortable sympathizing with him either personally. --- No Venezuelan fishermen ever called me a Bernie Bro. <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:941924650] in averagejoe... [t:78836859]...</cite> <quote>MrPeppers posted... </cite> <quote>I think you don't blame him because if you aren't a full-on communist then you sympathize with them to a very concerning degree.</quote> Churchill was a virulent racist, so Im not comfortable sympathizing with him either personally. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 07/10/20 10:05:35 AM #56:	@ScazarMeltex Who in this topic attacking joel has defended or even mentioned the bengal famine --- https://imgur.com/VZeCB RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:941924652] in averagejoe... [t:78836859]...</cite> <quote>@ScazarMeltex Who in this topic attacking joel has defended or even mentioned the bengal famine </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 07/10/20 10:05:40 AM #57:	I don't give a shit about ideology, I just think it's incredible that we accurately said that averagejoel denies the holodomor genocide and blames things like the weather and the farmers instead, and we were told that wasn't true... and it was all true, but somehow because Joel told scar that it was bad even though it was not a genocide and also Churchill is bad too there's ambiguity over all those posts denying Stalin did anything or that the holodomor had anything to do with policy Like wtf? When have I ever defended Churchill? Most of what I know about him doesn't make him seem worth defending. W/e, I don't really care what Joel thinks as long as we've cleared the air over what he's said --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:941924655] in averagejoe... [t:78836859]...</cite> <quote>I don't give a shit about ideology, I just think it's incredible that we accurately said that averagejoel denies the holodomor genocide and blames things like the weather and the farmers instead, and we were told that wasn't true... and it was all true, but somehow because Joel told scar that it was bad even though it was not a genocide and also Churchill is bad too there's ambiguity over all those posts denying Stalin did anything or that the holodomor had anything to do with policy Like wtf? When have I ever defended Churchill? Most of what I know about him doesn't make him seem worth defending. W/e, I don't really care what Joel thinks as long as we've cleared the air over what he's said </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 07/10/20 10:06:32 AM #58:	ScazarMeltex posted... Probably not, but I've literally had the exact same people attacking joel in this topic make the exact same arguments Joel makes in regards to the weather when it comes to the Bengal famine. So that goes both way Who?? Name names. When does this board even talk about Churchill? I'm here all the time and never have seen this. --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:941924681] in averagejoe... [t:78836859]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>Probably not, but I've literally had the exact same people attacking joel in this topic make the exact same arguments Joel makes in regards to the weather when it comes to the Bengal famine. So that goes both way</quote> Who?? Name names. When does this board even talk about Churchill? I'm here all the time and never have seen this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ThyCorndog 07/10/20 10:06:48 AM #59:	Churchill was as big of a piece of shit as Stalin There I said it. I'm brave and beautiful --- https://imgur.com/6cPXvLN https://imgur.com/hVC4i6j <cite>ThyCorndog posted [p:941924687] in averagejoe... [t:78836859]...</cite> <quote>Churchill was as big of a piece of shit as Stalin There I said it. I'm brave and beautiful </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 07/10/20 10:07:35 AM #60:	MrPeppers posted... I think you don't blame him because if you aren't a full-on communist then you sympathize with them to a very concerning degree. OK but I just explained why I don't blame him, is that explanation somehow materially wrong? Churchill was a monster, there's no need for communism to realize that --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:941924716] in averagejoe... [t:78836859]...</cite> <quote>MrPeppers posted... </cite> <quote>I think you don't blame him because if you aren't a full-on communist then you sympathize with them to a very concerning degree.</quote>OK but I just explained why I don't blame him, is that explanation somehow materially wrong? Churchill was a monster, there's no need for communism to realize that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
#62	Post #62 was unavailable or deleted.
ASithLord7 07/10/20 10:09:45 AM #63:	Balrog0 posted... Who?? Name names. When does this board even talk about Churchill? I'm here all the time and never have seen this. @ScazarMeltex --- https://imgur.com/VZeCB RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:941924777] in averagejoe... [t:78836859]...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted... </cite> <quote>Who?? Name names. When does this board even talk about Churchill? I'm here all the time and never have seen this.</quote>@ScazarMeltex </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CProtectionSvce 07/10/20 10:10:41 AM #64:	Keep in mind Banana_Cyanide has noble ancestry and that he's implied that the same thing should happen in a modern revolution with the upper-class. --- To protect children, the elderly, and people with disabilities from abuse, neglect, and exploitation <cite>CProtectionSvce posted [p:941924811] in averagejoe... [t:78836859]...</cite> <quote> Keep in mind Banana_Cyanide has noble ancestry and that he's implied that the same thing should happen in a modern revolution with the upper-class. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 07/10/20 10:12:01 AM #65:	Balrog0 posted... I don't give a shit about ideology, I just think it's incredible that we accurately said that averagejoel denies the holodomor genocide and blames things like the weather and the farmers instead, and we were told that wasn't true... and it was all true, but somehow because Joel told scar that it was bad even though it was not a genocide and also Churchill is bad too there's ambiguity over all those posts denying Stalin did anything or that the holodomor had anything to do with policy Like wtf? When have I ever defended Churchill? Most of what I know about him doesn't make him seem worth defending. W/e, I don't really care what Joel thinks as long as we've cleared the air over what he's said Ok let me clarify. I took RebelElite's initial post about it to mean something more along the lines of "denies it happened", especially since he used the phrase "conspiracy theory" about something that is actually contested in academia. Whereas the way I understand it is simply that he thinks the Holodomor very much happened but it wasn't a genocide. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:941924847] in averagejoe... [t:78836859]...</cite> <quote>Balrog0 posted... </cite> <quote>I don't give a shit about ideology, I just think it's incredible that we accurately said that averagejoel denies the holodomor genocide and blames things like the weather and the farmers instead, and we were told that wasn't true... and it was all true, but somehow because Joel told scar that it was bad even though it was not a genocide and also Churchill is bad too there's ambiguity over all those posts denying Stalin did anything or that the holodomor had anything to do with policy Like wtf? When have I ever defended Churchill? Most of what I know about him doesn't make him seem worth defending. W/e, I don't really care what Joel thinks as long as we've cleared the air over what he's said</quote>Ok let me clarify. I took RebelElite's initial post about it to mean something more along the lines of "denies it happened", especially since he used the phrase "conspiracy theory" about something that is actually contested in academia. Whereas the way I understand it is simply that he thinks the Holodomor very much happened but it wasn't a genocide. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 07/10/20 10:12:15 AM #66:	ThyCorndog posted... Churchill was as big of a piece of shit as Stalin There I said it. I'm brave and beautiful Lol right --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:941924856] in averagejoe... [t:78836859]...</cite> <quote>ThyCorndog posted... </cite> <quote>Churchill was as big of a piece of shit as Stalin There I said it. I'm brave and beautiful</quote> Lol right </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 07/10/20 10:12:21 AM #67:	CProtectionSvce posted... Keep in mind Banana_Cyanide has noble ancestry and that he's implied that the same thing should happen in a modern revolution with the upper-class. joel has also implied that the same should happen to the children of the super-rich today --- https://imgur.com/VZeCB RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:941924860] in averagejoe... [t:78836859]...</cite> <quote>CProtectionSvce posted... </cite> <quote> Keep in mind Banana_Cyanide has noble ancestry and that he's implied that the same thing should happen in a modern revolution with the upper-class.</quote>joel has also implied that the same should happen to the children of the super-rich today </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 07/10/20 10:14:28 AM #68:	Eh, the usual people you would expect. Mal fet the one time got himself a suspension out of it arguing with me because he tried to imply that Churchill was right. The Admiral, Spooking, and a bunch of the usual shitty low karma alts that disaapear. But you are correct that of those none of them are posting in this topic. So I apologize for that incorrect part of my statement. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:941924919] in averagejoe... [t:78836859]...</cite> <quote>Eh, the usual people you would expect. Mal fet the one time got himself a suspension out of it arguing with me because he tried to imply that Churchill was right. The Admiral, Spooking, and a bunch of the usual shitty low karma alts that disaapear. But you are correct that of those none of them are posting in this topic. So I apologize for that incorrect part of my statement. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 07/10/20 10:15:09 AM #69:	ScazarMeltex posted... Eh, the usual people you would expect. Mal fet the one time got himself a suspension out of it arguing with me because he tried to imply that Churchill was right. The Admiral, Spooking, and a bunch of the usual shitty low karma alts that disaapear. But you are correct that of those none of them are posting in this topic. So I apologize for that incorrect part of my statement. Fair enough, thanks for the correction. Definitely no surprise from those posters --- https://imgur.com/VZeCB RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:941924934] in averagejoe... [t:78836859]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>Eh, the usual people you would expect. Mal fet the one time got himself a suspension out of it arguing with me because he tried to imply that Churchill was right. The Admiral, Spooking, and a bunch of the usual shitty low karma alts that disaapear. But you are correct that of those none of them are posting in this topic. So I apologize for that incorrect part of my statement.</quote>Fair enough, thanks for the correction. Definitely no surprise from those posters </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 07/10/20 10:22:11 AM #70:	ASithLord7 posted... Fair enough, thanks for the correction. Definitely no surprise from those posters It's my fault, I tend to not look at names when I read through topics unless it's something egregiously stupid, so I made a presumption that turned out to be incorrect. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:941925161] in averagejoe... [t:78836859]...</cite> <quote>ASithLord7 posted... </cite> <quote>Fair enough, thanks for the correction. Definitely no surprise from those posters</quote>It's my fault, I tend to not look at names when I read through topics unless it's something egregiously stupid, so I made a presumption that turned out to be incorrect. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List	Page List: 1, 2

Current Events > averagejoel is WARNED (+) Yeah! (+)

Current Events > averagejoel is WARNED