Current Events > Scientific papers are an unending torrent of Google searches

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I don't understand this term, better Google something that explains what it is.
Ah, I found it, but now this explanation is using a term I also don't understand, better Google something that explains what it is.
Great, now THIS explanation is using a term I also don't understand, better Google something that explains what it is.
Ah, now it all makes sense. Now I can get back to learning about the previous term.
Damn, another term I don't understand, better Google something that explains what it is.
repeat ad infinitum

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ProfessorKukui posted...

This Et Al dude sure writes a lot of papers

lol

But the intended audience for papers are either experts or students in the field. And sometimes a very specific subset of a field. Readability is what textbooks are for I think.

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ProfessorKukui posted...

This Et Al dude sure writes a lot of papers

Not as much as this a priori guy

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Back in my day (lol) there was no Google. We had to like, ya know...... know stuff.

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I just wanna know who the fuck that Ibid guy is

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Just ran into a term that has no scientific definition that only gives you the wrong impression about what it's describing.

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I have to present tomorrow and all I can think about is how much this graph looks like Crash Bandicoot


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Reading scientific papers is definitely a learned skill. Also, skill transfer is only partial, start reading in a different field and your rate of reading and understanding plummets again.

There's an interesting paper that pretty convincingly shows that not only the amount of jargon has increased over the years, but the complexity of the general language has increased too.

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COVxy posted...

There's an interesting paper that pretty convincingly shows that not only the amount of jargon has increased over the years, but the complexity of the general language has increased too.

I wouldn't be surprised if researchers are more desperate to make their mark by coming up with new terminology.

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Jabodie posted...

I wouldn't be surprised if researchers are more desperate to make their mark by coming up with new terminology.

Terminology they can name after themselves!

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Ah of course. I'm going to take the Ratnofsky problem using the Mandalapu approach, and hopefully I won't run into issues with the Himmerich subspace.

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Jabodie posted...

I wouldn't be surprised if researchers are more desperate to make their mark by coming up with new terminology.

This, redundant jargon, definitely happens but I'd say it's less motivated than you are suggesting. There's just a large amount of literature, and people are forced to be pidgenholed into one subfield. So when a related subfield finds some phenomenon, people in other fields are unlikely to actually read it or be aware of it.

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aaaaaaaa

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scientific papers are an endless torrent of paywalls

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kirbymuncher posted...

scientific papers are an endless torrent of paywalls

That's what sci-hub is for. I don't even bother VPNing to my campus anymore. With the exception of very new articles that haven't been scrapped yet.

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I don't know how the fuck I'm gonna get the runtime here up to 30 minutes

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Garioshi posted...

I have to present tomorrow and all I can think about is how much this graph looks like Crash Bandicoot

This is the greatest post in CE history.

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About to present, here goes nothing.

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I hated going to the library as a kid and having to write bibliographies :<

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Presenting a paper is really the best way to start learning how to read scientific papers. Really makes you not skimp on understanding.

So while it may be stressful, it's a really good thing!

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I wish I was smart enough to understand. My brain feels extremely limited with what it can understand.

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I mean, yes, this is how anything beyond the surface level is learned, by reading a whole lot.

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Garioshi posted...

I don't understand this term, better Google something that explains what it is.
Ah, I found it, but now this explanation is using a term I also don't understand, better Google something that explains what it is.
Great, now THIS explanation is using a term I also don't understand, better Google something that explains what it is.
Ah, now it all makes sense. Now I can get back to learning about the previous term.
Damn, another term I don't understand, better Google something that explains what it is.
repeat ad infinitum

The guy who wrote the paper basically did that over the course of years already just to write the paper. I wouldn't worry too much about not understanding everything in a scientific paper.

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Yeah like journal articles are for people in field basically.


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oh my god it went well
didn't hit 30 minutes but it didn't matter

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Garioshi posted...

I have to present tomorrow and all I can think about is how much this graph looks like Crash Bandicoot

LMAO

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yeoooo no more presentations for me

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might actually get to do lab research and get my name on a paper yeoooo

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Garioshi posted...

might actually get to do lab research and get my name on a paper yeoooo

If you are working on a project that is expected to result in publication, talk authorship as soon as possible. It's important for everyone to be on the same page. Different labs delegate authorship in different ways, have different expectations.

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COVxy posted...

If you are working on a project that is expected to result in publication, talk authorship as soon as possible. It's important for everyone to be on the same page. Different labs delegate authorship in different ways, have different expectations.

Oh, definitely. It's gonna count as my research class and I need my name on some papers if I want any hope of getting into grad school.

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