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Garioshi
07/08/20 11:13:31 AM
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I love Metal Gear to death, but a nonlethal run locks you out of like 80% of all of the weapons in the game. A Game Over if Spotted run locks you out of having to think about the entire evasion phase of the game. People put a lot of work into those mechanics, and the people who play these games the most will rarely see them, if at all.

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BignutzisBack
07/08/20 11:14:40 AM
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Of course playing a game using non-lethal methods is going to lock out the majority of weapons, what the hell dude?

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Funkydog
07/08/20 11:15:52 AM
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But..

What..

Why do you care about the weapons if you're not going to use them?

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YookaLaylee
07/08/20 11:17:09 AM
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The correct way to play Smash is with items turned off
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Garioshi
07/08/20 11:17:46 AM
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BignutzisBack posted...
Of course playing a game using non-lethal methods is going to lock out the majority of weapons, what the hell dude?
If you want to play nonlethally, that's fine. However, when the "correct" way to play is nonlethally (the ultimate challenge of the game requires 0 kills and if you do kill someone, you're usually better off starting from scratch), it drives people away from experiencing the full mechanical complexity of the game.

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Cheese_Crackers
07/08/20 11:17:58 AM
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Who defines "correct way to play"? Seriously asking since I haven't played any Metal Gear games.

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SoundNetwork
07/08/20 11:18:13 AM
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good things theres no correct way to play mgsv

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Questionmarktarius
07/08/20 11:18:13 AM
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Optional playstyles are optional.
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R1masher
07/08/20 11:18:45 AM
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Like trying to take a no wipe shit

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WaterLink
07/08/20 11:18:56 AM
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Then play how you want to play? No one's forcing you to play it that way if you don't want. Some people do those as a challenge especially if the main game isn't that difficult. Just like Nuzlocke runs in pokemon.
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SSJKirby
07/08/20 11:19:32 AM
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Most people wont see those mechanics? Based on what?

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UnfairRepresent
07/08/20 11:19:36 AM
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Funkydog posted...
But..

What..

Why do you care about the weapons if you're not going to use them?

This

TC's post is dumb, the mechanics are all still there. You're choosing not to play.

The point I thought you were going to make which I would have agreed with, are people who go "Well that's not how the game designers wanted you to play! Therefore it's wrong!" like Dark Souls fans scream.

The game designers may or may not have wanted you to not have subtitles, volume control or FOV sliders.

The OPTION is still a pivitol thing for the player to have. It's dumb to complain that a game has options you're not willing to use.
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Cheese_Crackers
07/08/20 11:21:28 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
This

TC's post is dumb, the mechanics are all still there. You're choosing not to play.

The point I thought you were going to make which I would have agreed with, are people who go "Well that's not how the game designers wanted you to play! Therefore it's wrong!" like Dark Souls fans scream.

The game designers may or may not have wanted you to not have subtitles, volume control or FOV sliders.

The OPTION is still a pivitol thing for the player to have. It's dumb to complain that a game has options you're not willing to use.
I think we can all agree that the hardcore Souls fans are the fucking worst. I say that as a big fan of the series.

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Garioshi
07/08/20 11:24:04 AM
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Cheese_Crackers posted...
Who defines "correct way to play"? Seriously asking since I haven't played any Metal Gear games.
The "correct way" to play most stealth games is to kill nobody (unless your mission is to kill someone) and be spotted by nobody, and not doing so is usually very punishing. Some of the most fun I've had in a stealth game is playing Hitman 2 and improvising after I fucked up (the final mission of Patient Zero takes this to the extreme), but if I was playing "correctly" (what is heavily encouraged and sometimes the only way to play), I would never see that side of the game.

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Garioshi
07/08/20 11:34:41 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
The point I thought you were going to make which I would have agreed with, are people who go "Well that's not how the game designers wanted you to play! Therefore it's wrong!" like Dark Souls fans scream.
Honestly, that's probably the bigger issue. The worst I've seen is Undertale fans screaming at someone playing the game for the first time not to kill anything, even though the game has an absurd amount of endings that specifically judge you for how much you did kill.

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