Current Events > k-poppers are TORN over this music video. too much lesbian-vibe? QUEERBAITING?

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MixedRaceBaby
07/07/20 9:54:14 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ujb-gvqsoi0

is the MV in question. throughout the video, the 2 girls are seen holding each other, looking into each others eyes, crawling toward each others open legs, and even almost kissing at one point. watch it if you dare.

most kpoppers are happy that LGBTQ+ stuff is finally seen in kpop, WHILE OTHERS ARE SAYING ITS QUEERBAITING
the outrage: https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/hmmfzv/red_velvet_irene_seulgi_monster/?sort=controversial

what is queerbaiting?
wikipedia says
Queerbaiting is a marketing technique for fiction and entertainment in which creators hint at, but then do not actually depict, same-sex romance or other LGBTQ representation. They do so to attract ("bait") a queer or straight ally audience with the suggestion of relationships or characters that appeal to them, while at the same time attempting to avoid alienating other consumers.

whos right? is it cute, harmless, yuri love? or VILE DISGUSTING TOMFOOLERY QUEERBAITING?


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MarthGoomba
07/07/20 9:58:19 PM
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Yuri is good
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DespondentDeity
07/07/20 10:00:03 PM
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Nothing about this comes across as disrespectful, this just seems like representation to me.

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ReturnOfThaJedi
07/07/20 10:01:01 PM
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Red Velvet

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MixedRaceBaby
07/07/20 10:24:38 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
Yuri is good
fun fact

Yuri in korean means cooking

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OwlRammer
07/07/20 10:27:33 PM
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008Zulu
07/07/20 10:30:52 PM
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Tatu was "queerbating".

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MixedRaceBaby
07/07/20 10:34:37 PM
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008Zulu posted...
Tatu was "queerbating".
lmao yeah i remember that.

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MixedRaceBaby
07/07/20 10:47:27 PM
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up

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AlisLandale
07/07/20 10:49:15 PM
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Anyone who gets seriously invested in shipping irl people needs to have their head examined.

>_>

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Drug_Smoker
07/07/20 10:51:51 PM
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Looks pretty hetero to me. Kind of implying sexual assault as one of them sleeps though.

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JuanCarlos1
07/07/20 10:57:41 PM
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008Zulu posted...
Tatu was "queerbating".

The brunette one turned out to be a typical russian homophobe. I imagine Russia nowadays would not permit the band to even exist.

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008Zulu
07/07/20 11:55:15 PM
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JuanCarlos1 posted...
The brunette one turned out to be a typical russian homophobe. I imagine Russia nowadays would not permit the band to even exist.
Both figuratively and literally most likely.

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dameon_reaper
07/08/20 12:16:08 AM
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Honestly, if you know anything about Red Velvet, Irene and Seulgi are long time friends who began around the same time and even trained together. Their relationship is pretty solid and a lot of Revluvs joke around that they're in a relationship and there's even memes.

I think this is just to reflect that. Nothing as big as what people are projecting.
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Kastrada
07/08/20 12:24:31 AM
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JuanCarlos1 posted...
The brunette one turned out to be a typical russian homophobe. I imagine Russia nowadays would not permit the band to even exist.

Which is doubly troubling since I think she's bi? Like she's only against male homosexuality. Not shocking of course.

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MixedRaceBaby
07/08/20 12:30:20 AM
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dameon_reaper posted...
Honestly, if you know anything about Red Velvet, Irene and Seulgi are long time friends who began around the same time and even trained together. Their relationship is pretty solid and a lot of Revluvs joke around that they're in a relationship and there's even memes.

I think this is just to reflect that. Nothing as big as what people are projecting.
yeah a lot of people are like "omg its so weird to be forced to make out with your friend"

and kpoppers are like "uh, they probably already make out"

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Kastrada
07/08/20 12:33:52 AM
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Aren't Irene and Seulgi the ones that are constantly trying to kiss each other in photo shoots and press runs and behind the scenes stuff?

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SpaghettiCookie
07/08/20 12:43:16 AM
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kpop girls arent allowed to date and cant stay around men too much as the agents and managers are scared of them being distracted by men, or made impure in public eye

but they all hang out all day every day

in short, they fuck. All Kpop girls, likely. Or at least every band has the 2-4 girls who sneak around.

they. Fuck. Let them show lgbt agenda if they want. Its not queerbaiting. Because they fuck

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dameon_reaper
07/08/20 12:44:13 AM
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Kastrada posted...
Aren't Irene and Seulgi the ones that are constantly trying to kiss each other in photo shoots and press runs and behind the scenes stuff?

Yep.

Also, I'm not ever sure about k-pop stans...maybe its just Korean stans?

A lot of international fans are okay with some things such as GD talking about acid or TOP smoking weed.

Then there's always talk about all of Twice being lesbians but when I hear any kind of anger, it tends to be from Koreans themselves.

Such as E-Dawn and HyunA's relationship. Total adorable couple...that's spat at by their own society.

For a country that is supposedly part of progress, they're very backwards. I love Korea and its food, t.v., music, and history, but damn do I hate that side of them.
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MixedRaceBaby
07/08/20 12:44:29 AM
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SpaghettiCookie posted...
kpop girls arent allowed to date and cant stay around men too much as the agents and managers are scared of them being distracted by men, or made impure in public eye
well at least JYP lets his employees date.

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MixedRaceBaby
07/08/20 12:48:37 AM
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dameon_reaper posted...
Then there's always talk about all of Twice being lesbians but when I hear any kind of anger, it tends to be from Koreans themselves.
SANA IS DEFINITELY GAY

I MEAN

CMON

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM-GQqiJuJ8

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dameon_reaper
07/08/20 12:49:37 AM
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MixedRaceBaby posted...
well at least JYP lets his employees date.

JYP does several things right, I feel. My only problem with JYP in recent memory was butchering Got7's comeback last year. The lack of marketing...

At the very least, I like the treatment of their groups because JYP knows who makes him money.
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dameon_reaper
07/08/20 12:50:00 AM
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MixedRaceBaby posted...
SANA IS DEFINITELY GAY

I MEAN

CMON

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM-GQqiJuJ8

That's DEFINITELY what i see on all the groups! xD
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Vyrulisse
07/08/20 12:52:00 AM
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Probably a buncha waifu idiots feeling threatened their k-pop idol likes girls.

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GentlemanGamer
07/08/20 12:54:04 AM
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SpaghettiCookie posted...
kpop girls arent allowed to date and cant stay around men too much as the agents and managers are scared of them being distracted by men, or made impure in public eye

but they all hang out all day every day

in short, they fuck. All Kpop girls, likely. Or at least every band has the 2-4 girls who sneak around.

they. Fuck. Let them show lgbt agenda if they want. Its not queerbaiting. Because they fuck

Unfortunately a lot of the time they are also forced into relations with the men in charge, as well.
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SpaghettiCookie
07/08/20 12:56:01 AM
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GentlemanGamer posted...
Unfortunately a lot of the time they are also forced into relations with the men in charge, as well.
Its really fucked up. I obviously never became a fan since I cant listen, but I Like the dances so I learned a bit about them and its dark

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Vyrulisse
07/08/20 12:56:49 AM
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K-Pop is a disgusting business, those girls are used up and tossed aside by the old men in charge.

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Kastrada
07/08/20 1:01:55 AM
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The fans are toxic as hell as well.

I remember last year(?) when a member of f(x) committed suicide and people were sending insults and threats to her bandmates for not positing tributes. Even though they were en route to be with their friends' family right after the death was made public. Like what the fuck.

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ForsakenHermit
07/08/20 1:04:32 AM
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JuanCarlos1 posted...
The brunette one turned out to be a typical russian homophobe. I imagine Russia nowadays would not permit the band to even exist.
The redhead is way hotter and a much better person to boot.

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MixedRaceBaby
07/08/20 1:06:46 AM
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Kastrada posted...
The fans are toxic as hell as well.

I remember last year(?) when a member of f(x) committed suicide and people were sending insults and threats to her bandmates for not positing tributes. Even though they were en route to be with their friends' family right after the death was made public. Like what the fuck.
yeah but thats like 1% of the fanbase.

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MixedRaceBaby
07/08/20 11:59:47 AM
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Sana is GAY AND I LOVE IT

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Touch
07/08/20 12:02:15 PM
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MixedRaceBaby posted...
Sana is GAY AND I LOVE IT
Let us be reminded that TWICE wrote a whole ass song where the chorus is "Is Sana gay?"

not really but ya know lol

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Ivynn
07/08/20 12:05:32 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
K-Pop is a disgusting business, those girls are used up and tossed aside by the old men in charge.

And it's such an open secret too and nothing is done about it.

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MixedRaceBaby
07/08/20 12:24:57 PM
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Ivynn posted...
And it's such an open secret too and nothing is done about it.
lmao what do you mean nothing. stories are coming out all the time and shit is being shut down

Seungri is finally having his trial ffs, something people never thought would happen
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1182144.shtml

tired of all these "well i saw once on reddit that kpop is EVIL" folks thinking they know anything about the industry or korea. shut your mouth and know your role.

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Touch
07/08/20 12:33:53 PM
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Heck, the AOA thing about Jimin just came out recently too

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Ivynn
07/08/20 12:38:11 PM
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MixedRaceBaby posted...
lmao what do you mean nothing. stories are coming out all the time and shit is being shut down

Seungri is finally having his trial ffs, something people never thought would happen
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1182144.shtml

That's good to hear.

MixedRaceBaby posted...
shut your mouth and know your role.

You're not my dad.

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MixedRaceBaby
07/08/20 1:01:07 PM
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dont forget about the laws and legislation that are being made to protect kpop stars, like the Sulli's Law

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/30/south-korea-draws-cyberbulling-laws-second-k-pop-suicide/

so fuck off

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Ivynn
07/08/20 1:04:45 PM
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MixedRaceBaby posted...
so fuck off

Ivynn posted...
You're not my dad.


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MixedRaceBaby
07/08/20 1:37:30 PM
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who posted

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Touch
07/08/20 2:13:40 PM
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Also, JYPE handled Mina's situation quite nicely. Let her have her time off and come back on her own terms.

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