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Guide
07/02/20 10:34:39 PM
#102:


legendary_zell posted...
Y'all sure owned me with your blazing wit and airtight arguments. You're right, you can do anything to someone who signs a contract saying you can do that something, even as they beg you to stop. Nothing wrong with that. My mistake.

There... really isn't. This is like jumping off a cliff and regretting the fall. The internet isn't a force of physics, but the psychosocial aspects of it may as well be a force of nature. She brought this on herself, and there's no excuse for not understanding how the internet works in the last decade when she signed the contracts.

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AntiNoob
07/02/20 10:37:54 PM
#103:


Mia has to bang all the producers if she wants the video taken down

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Solid Snake07
07/02/20 10:38:47 PM
#104:


Jabodie posted...
good luck with that


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SuperExcitebike
07/02/20 10:41:32 PM
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She looks a lot better with clothes on

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Lordgold666
07/02/20 10:42:35 PM
#106:


Lol

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DrizztLink
07/02/20 10:46:19 PM
#107:


OmegaShinkai posted...
Lmao that's not actually her name, does anyone really think so?
I can find some sources saying it is, a few saying it isn't but not listing a real name.

It's usually pretty easy to find a porn star's real name, so I'm conflicted.

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Daphneries39
07/02/20 10:53:09 PM
#108:


This is pretty funny because Mia's entire career, fame and every dime she makes is entirely off the back of her porn career.

So yeah, she's way off on this one.
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super_clout
07/02/20 10:53:10 PM
#109:


legendary_zell posted...
A contract is not a magic spell or some physical law of the universe. It worries me how many people in this topic are resting on that point. Contract or no contract, the videos should be taken down because that's the right thing to do. No one should accept this because of a contract because a contract doesn't absolve you of the responsibility to be a good human being.

This is one of the main downsides of Capitalism. It makes people turn off their morals and ethics and replace them with some weird version of contract law.
A Contract is a Contract is a Contract. Period. She should've made a better one before signing.

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legendary_zell
07/02/20 10:56:30 PM
#110:


chrono625 posted...
you cant make people sign contracts that forces them into indentured servitude or slavery which is what you were alluding too.

you said contracts are not some physical law of the universe sorry, theyre LAW binding agreements dependent of the terms. In OUR universe that means something, in your universe where you make up your own rules maybe not.

she signed a contract to create videos she willingly chose to do and gave them, with consent full distribution rights.

thats a legal binding contract, she wasnt a child and now she has to live with that decision.

the company is under no obligation to give in to her demands. And even if they did those videos are forever a part of the internet regardless of how many sites remove them.

I actually wasn't talking about slavery or indentured servitude. There's lots of things below that that invalidates contracts. Particularly for being unconscionable or unfair. I would know, being a lawyer and all. Additionally, contract law isn't and shouldn't be the decider of our morality or how we treat other people. Even if there was a federal statute calling her out by name and saying her very soul is bound to the contract, that doesn't make it so or excuse enforcing it. People still decide what to do. Your logic is the same as a banker who forecloses on people's homes during a depression, while others don't. Just because someone agreed to something and you are authorized to hold them to that agreement doesn't mean you should. This should be uncontroversial, and likely the reason it's not is because we're talking about a former sex worker.

DemonBuffet posted...
The world doesnt run on fairy tales and good will.
People cant stop paying their car payments when they signed a 7 year contract to pay it off simply because they dont wanna pay anymore. Contracts exist to ensure people keep their end of the deal.
You should shut the fuck up now @legendary_zell

I'm all too aware of what the world runs on. That's the whole problem. This may violate some hypothetical contract that none of us have read, but more importantly, this situation clearly violates the golden rule.

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ApoorHollow
07/02/20 10:57:40 PM
#111:


She may know more about golden showers than the golden rule

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chrono625
07/02/20 10:57:45 PM
#112:


Dude if youre a lawyer then Id hate for you to represent me given your shitty takes and opinions.


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Daphneries39
07/02/20 10:57:54 PM
#113:


Perascamin posted...
I really do feel badly for her. Porn companies throw money at these women in a predatory manner and then when it's said and done, they can't do anything about it. They'll always be viewed as a piece of meat, and it's disgusting.

About as bad as some of the attitudes in this topic.

LOL. Posts like these are hilarious. Nobody put a gun to her head and forced her to do porn, nor anybody else that did it. Quit being a sexist by assuming women are so stupid. And knowing everything she knows now, Mia still would have done porn. She's rich and famous solely because of her porn career.
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sellerdore
07/02/20 10:58:15 PM
#114:


Regardless of legality or whatever, I think the compassionate thing that we can all do is at least make the choice to just not watch the videos. There's a billion other videos out there that you can watch to get your rocks off, featuring professionals who are still active.

Just remember the human, that's all. Just a little self-control and awareness on all our parts can go a long way towards improving things in our world.

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Gretgrab
07/02/20 10:58:18 PM
#115:


mach25687 posted...
Funny because I got done watching the Scene that made her famous.
Which scene was that?

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Guide
07/02/20 10:59:47 PM
#116:


Daphneries39 posted...
LOL. Posts like these are hilarious. Nobody put a gun to her head and forced her to do porn, nor anybody else that did it. Quit being a sexist by assuming women are so stupid. And knowing everything she knows now, Mia still would have done porn. She's rich and famous solely because of her porn career.


>one person makes a decision they regret

>QUIT BEING SEXIST BY ASSUMING WOMEN PLURAL

You're full of shit and this is obvious concern trolling, shut the fuck up.

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Boombam99
07/02/20 11:00:54 PM
#117:


She was only a pornstar for three months?
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legendary_zell
07/02/20 11:01:41 PM
#118:


I guess I shouldn't be surprised at the level of hostility you all have for someone who tells you that you can't just rely on contracts to decide what type of person to be and how you should treat others. Contracts are invalidated for countless reasons every single day in every city, state, and country. Contracts are also simply not enforced for countless reasons every second of every day. Treat people how you'd like to be treated, don't let some document from Legal Zoom seduce you into being a POS.

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CADE FOSTER
07/02/20 11:01:59 PM
#119:


She was pretty cute in Ramy even tho some emirati was drinking her breast milk which was weird
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AndreLeGeant
07/02/20 11:02:03 PM
#120:


Daphneries39 posted...
And knowing everything she knows now, Mia still would have done porn. She's rich and famous solely because of her porn career.
She has said she made very little money from it, and she doesn't make any money from it now, either. She did gain fame from it, but it probably isn't the kind of fame you can transition into real wealth or lasting prosperity.

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Daphneries39
07/02/20 11:02:58 PM
#121:


Guide posted...
>one person makes a decision they regret

>QUIT BEING SEXIST BY ASSUMING WOMEN PLURAL

You're full of shit and this is obvious concern trolling, shut the fuck up.

"Porn companies throw money at THESE women in a predatory manner."

Plural. You're clearly a child, considering how you need to resort to immature swears and name calling at the drop of a hat. Go back to school and get educated before you try and have a meaningful discussion with adults, ok?
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Guide
07/02/20 11:02:58 PM
#122:


sellerdore posted...
Regardless of legality or whatever, I think the compassionate thing that we can all do is at least make the choice to just not watch the videos. There's a billion other videos out there that you can watch to get your rocks off, featuring professionals who are still active.

Just remember the human, that's all. Just a little self-control and awareness on all our parts can go a long way towards improving things in our world.

it wouldn't be nearly as hot if she didn't regret it, though.

I think my fetish might actually be "play stupid games get stupid prizes". Heck, it doesn't even have to be porn. Bad cops getting fired, racists losing their jobs, those are more noble things to want, but frankly, I just really get my jollies from people paying for incredibly stupid mistakes.

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Tyranthraxus
07/02/20 11:03:05 PM
#123:


legendary_zell posted...
I guess I shouldn't be surprised at the level of hostility you all have for someone who tells you that you can't just rely on contracts to decide what type of person to be and how you should treat others. Contracts are invalidated for countless reasons every single day in every city, state, and country. Contracts are also simply not enforced for countless reasons every second of every day. Treat people how you'd like to be treated, don't let some document from Legal Zoom seduce you into being a POS.

You should read Jennifer Government by Max Barry I think you'd like it.

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legendary_zell
07/02/20 11:04:10 PM
#124:


chrono625 posted...
Dude if youre a lawyer then Id hate for you to represent me given your shitty takes and opinions.

I'm certain you would. I'll continue defending your civil rights, protecting you from shady companies, rolling back Trump's shitty regulations, and generally actually being a good person. You continue being shitty to people because of words on a page. I think I'm fine with that arrangement.

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chrono625
07/02/20 11:04:23 PM
#125:


legendary_zell posted...
I guess I shouldn't be surprised at the level of hostility you all have for someone who tells you that you can't just rely on contracts to decide what type of person to be and how you should treat others. Contracts are invalidated for countless reasons every single day in every city, state, and country. Contracts are also simply not enforced for countless reasons every second of every day. Treat people how you'd like to be treated, don't let some document from Legal Zoom seduce you into being a POS.

dude if her contract was shit it would be torn up just like the countless others that get invalidated on a daily basis, right?

but its not and shes not pursuing legal recourse cause she has zero leverage to do so.


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Guide
07/02/20 11:04:59 PM
#126:


Daphneries39 posted...
"Porn companies throw money at THESE women in a predatory manner."

Plural. You're clearly a child, considering how you need to resort to immature swears and name calling at the drop of a hat. Go back to school and get educated before you try and have a meaningful discussion with adults, ok?

There was no name calling, though. You really are full of shit, as in the colloquial meaning of being incredulous and dishonest, and you are concern trolling, transparently. You're also obviously hypocritical with what you ask others not to do, even as you do it yourself.

Be honest, or shut the fuck up.

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Daphneries39
07/02/20 11:05:43 PM
#127:


AndreLeGeant posted...
She has said she made very little money from it, and she doesn't make any money from it now, either. She did gain fame from it, but it probably isn't the kind of fame you can transition into real wealth or lasting prosperity.

Um, what? Every dime she makes is because of the fame she got from porn. Every single one. All her work currently is from doing appearances, shows, social media ads, webcams, announcing gigs, etc. That all comes from her porn fame. She would have none of that if not for her porn career.
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sellerdore
07/02/20 11:05:49 PM
#128:


Guide posted...
it wouldn't be nearly as hot if she didn't regret it, though.

I think my fetish might actually be "play stupid games get stupid prizes". Heck, it doesn't even have to be porn. Bad cops getting fired, racists losing their jobs, those are more noble things to want, but frankly, I just really get my jollies from people paying for incredibly stupid mistakes.
Honestly that's a pretty bad take IMO. Allowing yourself to gain pleasure from that kind of thing is really unhealthy. It's fine enough to fantasize about it but these are real people.

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Guide
07/02/20 11:07:01 PM
#129:


sellerdore posted...
Honestly that's a pretty bad take IMO. Allowing yourself to gain pleasure from that kind of thing is really unhealthy. It's fine enough to fantasize about it but these are real people.


I know they're real people, that's why it works. Doesn't have the same effect if it's fake.

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sellerdore
07/02/20 11:08:26 PM
#130:


Guide posted...
I know they're real people, that's why it works. Doesn't have the same effect if it's fake.
I dunno man I just can't get on board with that. Like, does empathy play into your thought process at all?

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Guide
07/02/20 11:09:47 PM
#131:


sellerdore posted...
I dunno man I just can't get on board with that. Like, does empathy play into your thought process at all?

Plenty. I hate it when bad things happen to people who did nothing to deserve it. But bringing things on yourself? Muy caliente.

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Smackems
07/02/20 11:10:31 PM
#132:


Lmao yeah that will happen

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Daphneries39
07/02/20 11:11:52 PM
#133:


Guide posted...
There was no name calling, though. You really are full of shit, as in the colloquial meaning of being incredulous and dishonest, and you are concern trolling, transparently. You're also obviously hypocritical with what you ask others not to do, even as you do it yourself.

Be honest, or shut the fuck up.

LOL, don't address the actual topic and continue to resort to childishness. I get it - you have a problem finding people willing to be in a meaningful relationship with you. I get it, you're a lonely, depressed loser who spends all his time in the basement. You probably love being a keyboard warrior.

Instead of so obviously being a Grade-A loser, how about trying to actually address the topic? Why should I feel sympathy towards somebody who willingly signed a contract and who now has millions of dollars all because of the porn she did? Somebody who continues to market everything about her based on sex appeal?
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legendary_zell
07/02/20 11:12:05 PM
#134:


chrono625 posted...
dude if her contract was shit it would be torn up just like the countless others that get invalidated on a daily basis, right?

but its not and shes not pursuing legal recourse cause she has zero leverage to do so.

Again, that's why I said contracts are not enforced every single day. We are not simply talking about the law. I'm trying to get you to think about your actual actions and whether you want to do them or not, not the law. The law is literally nothing more than the floor you can't go below, the bare minimum level of human being you are allowed to be and still roam free. I'm talking about being the well off landlord who throws out a family during the pandemic "because they signed a lease" vs the landlord who acknowledges that that's a fucked up thing to do and makes a deal. The landlord has the legal right to do the first and a moral obligation to do the latter. And people are fully justified in judging the first.


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07/02/20 11:12:46 PM
#135:


Did you know insults are against the tos? Also shut the fuck up.

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sellerdore
07/02/20 11:14:05 PM
#136:


Guide posted...
Plenty. I hate it when bad things happen to people who did nothing to deserve it. But bringing things on yourself? Muy caliente.
That's weak empathy though, I would say. A true empathetic response applies EVEN when people deserve it -- perhaps especially so. Like when I think about this, I think about mistakes I've made in my past, and while nothing I've done can compare to this particular situation, I can at least imagine a fraction of the shame and regret that she probably feels. That's enough to ruin any sort of sexual pleasure I would get from this, personally.

Just because I haven't made the specific mistakes she made, doesn't mean I can't empathize and act in good faith knowing how she feels.

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Daphneries39
07/02/20 11:14:11 PM
#137:


Guide posted...
Did you know insults are against the tos? Also shut the fuck up.

Did you know that you're a moron? Also, shut the fuck up.
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Guide
07/02/20 11:15:39 PM
#138:


We can get along. I'm just telling you for your own good, shut the fuck up.

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Daphneries39
07/02/20 11:17:23 PM
#139:


Guide posted...
We can get along. I'm just telling you for your own good, shut the fuck up.

No, you're telling me this because you are a childish keyboard warrior who feels important when he flames other people. You're a dime a dozen.
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Rypt
07/02/20 11:17:40 PM
#140:


Sictis posted...
All this will do is draw even more attention to her porn.......

I wonder if this is a publicity stunt
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AndreLeGeant
07/02/20 11:17:55 PM
#141:


Daphneries39 posted...
Um, what? Every dime she makes is because of the fame she got from porn. Every single one. All her work currently is from doing appearances, shows, social media ads, webcams, announcing gigs, etc. That all comes from her porn fame. She would have none of that if not for her porn career.
But how much has she made from all that, and is it worth the trade off? Especially considering all of those gigs will dry up in the near future, but the impact of doing porn will haunt her forever.

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MC_BatCommander
07/02/20 11:19:11 PM
#142:


I think the real question is why is her mediocre as fuck porn still even popular this long after it was made

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07/02/20 11:19:31 PM
#143:


sellerdore posted...
That's weak empathy though, I would say. A true empathetic response applies EVEN when people deserve it -- perhaps especially so. Like when I think about this, I think about mistakes I've made in my past, and while nothing I've done can compare to this particular situation, I can at least imagine a fraction of the shame and regret that she probably feels. That's enough to ruin any sort of sexual pleasure I would get from this, personally.

Just because I haven't made the specific mistakes she made, doesn't mean I can't empathize and act in good faith knowing how she feels.

By your definition, I probably have weak empathy, then. But I think it's less weak and more heavily skewed.

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07/02/20 11:20:06 PM
#144:


@Daphneries39
That is some strong projection.

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sellerdore
07/02/20 11:26:00 PM
#145:


Guide posted...
By your definition, I probably have weak empathy, then. But I think it's less weak and more heavily skewed.
Yeah I mean I don't know you so I can't act like I can judge who you are. But I strongly disagree with your stance on this and I would urge you to reconsider. It's easy to pretend like other people make the big mistakes, but it happens to everybody and I would just hope that one day, if you happen to do something you regret, that people don't treat you the way you are treating her.

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07/02/20 11:29:41 PM
#146:


It's not even a stance, just how my dick responds. I don't actually do anything to warrant calling it a stance.

Also, sure, I've made plenty of big mistakes, just nothing in the vein of hoisting my own petard. "I fucked up, these consequences are because of me, I have fix what I can and accept what I can't, maybe stare at the ceiling for a few hours."

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Daphneries39
07/02/20 11:32:38 PM
#147:


AndreLeGeant posted...
But how much has she made from all that, and is it worth the trade off? Especially considering all of those gigs will dry up in the near future, but the impact of doing porn will haunt her forever.

If you ask her, and she's being honest, I guarantee she says it's worth it. If she could change things, do you think she wouldn't do porn and as a result have zero fame and be working a minimum wage job somewhere right now? Or at best, being a librarian or something?
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Final_Tran
07/02/20 11:35:42 PM
#148:


If the sites wont take it dow, we gotta cancel culture porn everyone!
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AndreLeGeant
07/02/20 11:36:43 PM
#149:


Daphneries39 posted...
If you ask her, and she's being honest, I guarantee she says it's worth it. If she could change things, do you think she wouldn't do porn and as a result have zero fame and be working a minimum wage job somewhere right now? Or at best, being a librarian or something?
I saw her net worth is supposedly $4 million. So fair enough. A lot of porn workers end up with much less (or nothing).

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CADE FOSTER
07/02/20 11:37:21 PM
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zado19
07/02/20 11:43:56 PM
#151:


Out of ALL the dumb shit I have read on this site and board.... why is this suddenly triggering so many people on here

what woodwork did you fake feminists come from? Suddenly there a bunch of people on here worried about former porn stars feelings??? What a day this was...

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