Current Events > White people who pretend to care about Hong Kong to stick it to China

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lurk
07/01/20 10:13:52 PM
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i mean lets be real very few of you actually care lol
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MedeaLysistrata
07/01/20 10:14:54 PM
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"Actually care"


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lurk
07/01/20 10:16:21 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
"Actually care"
I mean the kind who talk about HUMAN RIGHTS and SUPPORT HONG KONG are mostly just motivated by disliking China lol
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Magyar15
07/01/20 10:16:52 PM
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You keep telling yourself that

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lurk
07/01/20 10:18:32 PM
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there is a reason why say the Rohingya genocide is just mostly ignored while this is priority no.1
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DEKMStephens
07/01/20 10:21:10 PM
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lurk posted...
there is a reason why say the Rohingya genocide is just mostly ignored while this is priority no.1
I'd argue a difference between China and Myanmar is only one of those countries has significant international relations that is arguably compromising the values of the developed world

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assassingriskel
07/01/20 10:21:58 PM
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It's real funny how they care so much about Hong Kong but hate BLM

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lurk
07/01/20 10:22:44 PM
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DEKMStephens posted...
I'd argue a difference between China and Myanmar is only one of those countries has significant international relations that is arguably compromising the values of the developed world
My point is it happens every time.

actual genocide In Rwanda ignored.

fake wmds in Iraq? USA goes all in.
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MedeaLysistrata
07/01/20 10:22:44 PM
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lurk posted...
there is a reason why say the Rohingya genocide is just mostly ignored while this is priority no.1
Most people dont know what's going on there because it is a small country that has virtually no effect on the world. China is a global power so of course people are more likely to care and have opinions. But it's moot because a lot of non profits are actively working in Myanmar anyway

You can find atrocity everywhere and it's absurd to expect people to "actually care" about everything going on.

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lurk
07/01/20 10:23:38 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Most people dont know what's going on there because it is a small country that has virtually no effect on the world.
and boom its mostly because you people dont like China and not because you care about HK
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Vicious_Dios
07/01/20 10:23:53 PM
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It's because I have my own shit to worry about.

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Smackems
07/01/20 10:25:30 PM
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You're right. I don't care much but I still say shit. That's how I am about nearly everything

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MedeaLysistrata
07/01/20 10:26:12 PM
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lurk posted...
My point is it happens every time.

actual genocide In Rwanda ignored.

fake wmds in Iraq? USA goes all in.
What point are you making here other than countries pursue their national interests?

You're betraying your own point by saying people don't care about Hong Kong and then saying the US only intervenes in shit that matters to them.

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uwnim
07/01/20 10:26:29 PM
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lurk posted...
and boom its mostly because you people dont like China and not because you care about HK
HK is one of the reasons people dislike China. It isn't "I hate China so I'm going to pretend to care about what they do" it is that China keeps doing fucked up shit and it keeps adding up into reasons people have to hate China.

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lurk
07/01/20 10:27:14 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
What point are you making here other than countries pursue their national interests?
Yes so I wish politicians would drop this facade about pretending to care about human rights
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pikachupwnage
07/01/20 10:27:34 PM
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DEKMStephens posted...
I'd argue a difference between China and Myanmar is only one of those countries has significant international relations that is arguably compromising the values of the developed world

Also China is rapidly developing as a world power. The CCP could spread its sick and twisted influence much farther then Myanmar could ever hope to.

Not to mention about a 1/6th of the world population lives in China. That is a lot of people living under such a regime.

China has the size and influence to be a genuine concern to the entire world. Its economy is deeply tied to the world economy. No shit more people know and care about it. It's more visible, more relevant and more potentially threatening to their way of life.

No one has the energy to know and care about every ill in the world. You don't have to spend equal time on every single wrongdoing to "care"


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MedeaLysistrata
07/01/20 10:29:16 PM
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lurk posted...
Yes so I wish politicians would drop this facade about pretending to care about human rights
Countries dont care about human rights. the UN does; individual people do.

Even this is ridiculous to say because some countries are committed to human rights. But mostly because of the UN and idealist politics related to it.

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DEKMStephens
07/01/20 10:30:02 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
What point are you making here other than countries pursue their national interests?

You're betraying your own point by saying people don't care about Hong Kong and then saying the US only intervenes in shit that matters to them.
Yeah Tc seems to be flipping between commentary on nations and individuals. Like with China v Myanmar as n individual I could try boycotting them, one which would be incredibly difficult due to the amount on consumer goods manufactured there the other I probably wouldn't need to do anything different as I doubt much of their stuff is exported to where I am. But with Rwanda vs Iraq? I really don't think there is (or was) anyway to apply pressure as an individual, best one could do is donate to organisations that may help in some dubious manner

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lurk
07/01/20 10:30:38 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Countries dont care about human rights. the UN does; individual people do.
Lol dude we have Tom Cotton talking about no quarter on us civilians but you expect me to believe he cares about HK?

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Smashingpmkns
07/01/20 10:33:43 PM
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There are, or were, ways to donate to the Hong Kong protesters. I connected with a street photographer here in 2014 that lived in HK. I've been, and still am, donating around $150 a month give or take to him in order to help him and his family during these times. And he's been documenting a lot of the injustices.
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MedeaLysistrata
07/01/20 10:35:30 PM
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lurk posted...
Lol dude we have Tom Cotton talking about no quarter on us civilians but you expect me to believe he cares about HK?
Thank you for using an anecdote

Let me counter with my own anecdote: many NGOs lead by everyday people are active in Rwanda, Hong Kong and Myanmar

I dont know what you expect other than a bunch of post itt for quickly made arguments

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lurk
07/01/20 10:36:36 PM
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MedeaLysistrata posted...
Thank you for using an anecdote
He is a US senator and many think he is the future of the GOP.

As in, he is not some random dude, he is possibly the next Trump.
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assassingriskel
07/01/20 10:37:14 PM
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They only care about themselves

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TrowaBarton7
07/01/20 10:37:32 PM
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lurk
07/01/20 10:38:06 PM
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TrowaBarton7 posted...
Yep. Precisely my point
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MedeaLysistrata
07/01/20 10:38:07 PM
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lurk posted...
He is a US senator and many think he is the future of the GOP.

As in, he is not some random dude, he is possibly the next Trump.
Ok

So what is your main topic

Is it politicians don't care or is it that people dont care?

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Doe
07/01/20 10:38:10 PM
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American conservatives who pretend to care about the human rights abuses against the Uighers while turning a blind eye to Palestine and our business operations in South America and Africa.... ope

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lurk
07/01/20 10:39:07 PM
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Doe posted...
American conservatives who pretend to care about the human rights abuses against the Uighers while turning a blind eye to Palestine and our business operations in South America and Africa.... ope
Palestine? A lot of center left dems do it too.

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LordRazziel
07/01/20 10:39:10 PM
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lurk posted...
there is a reason why say the Rohingya genocide is just mostly ignored while this is priority no.1
The reason is media coverage.

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Doe
07/01/20 10:41:29 PM
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lurk posted...
Palestine? A lot of center left dems do it too.
"Center left"
Let's dispel the fiction that advocating basic human rights for minorities in the US makes you left of center, it's the absolute bare minimum to maybe not deserve the guillotine.

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Geiki Ganger
07/01/20 10:42:26 PM
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TrowaBarton7 posted...

Weird, most of my friends have the opposite reaction to the two events.

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lurk
07/01/20 10:42:35 PM
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Spooking posted...
There are a lot of folks in the US who are bootlicking the communist Chinese regime and while some have gathered here on CE, many of them post on the /r/Sino (pro China propaganda) subreddit.
A fringe subreddit. There arent a lot of folk its a tiny minority
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FL81
07/01/20 10:44:03 PM
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low karma account
low effort trolling

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TrowaBarton7
07/01/20 10:46:14 PM
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Spooking posted...
There are a lot of folks in the US who are bootlicking the communist Chinese regime and while some have gathered here on CE, many of them post on the /r/Sino (pro China propaganda) subreddit.

Take a look at r/worldnews. They have topics about China everyday, all of them negative, and 80% of them are racist.

You see them talking about how Chinese people are drones, spies, cheaters, etc.

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Vicious_Dios
07/01/20 10:48:53 PM
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TrowaBarton7 posted...

Hmm...

The difference is that one is happening across seas, while the other is happening in our country's streets affecting both public and private property values..

Kind of a no brainer.

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monkmith
07/01/20 10:49:12 PM
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who's alt is this one?

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uwnim
07/01/20 10:51:19 PM
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TrowaBarton7 posted...
Take a look at r/worldnews. They have topics about China everyday, all of them negative, and 80% of them are racist.

You see them talking about how Chinese people are drones, spies, cheaters, etc.
Which isn't right. The problem is the government of China and not the people.

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Lorenzo_2003
07/01/20 10:52:38 PM
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lurk posted...
Yep. Precisely my point

Holy shit, I must be a psychic.

I kept thinking this thread is probably a stealth BLM complaint. TC doesnt give a fuck about Chinese people in China, Chinese people in Hong Kong, or any other people mentioned in this thread. This is probably BLM.


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lurk
07/01/20 10:52:42 PM
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uwnim posted...
Which isn't right. The problem is the government of China and not the people.
Borderline impossible to separate
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lurk
07/01/20 10:54:59 PM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Holy shit, I must be a psychic.

I kept thinking this thread is probably a stealth BLM complaint. TC doesnt give a fuck about Chinese people in China, Chinese people in Hong Kong, or any other people mentioned in this thread. This is probably BLM.
But Im Asian.

its more like, I am angsty at all the racism people in my family have faced in last few months even though we arent Chinese
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CruelBuffalo
07/01/20 11:00:19 PM
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*yawn* you can support BLM and hate for what China is doing to Uighur and Hong Kong.

your options in life arent just Lebron James or HK protestor
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pikachupwnage
07/01/20 11:01:10 PM
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lurk posted...
Borderline impossible to separate

The CCP is basically an advanced stage cancer on China. A sentient cancer that knows what it is doing.

And its metastatizing to the rest of the world.

Fuck Winnie the Pooh. Fuck the CCP.

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pikachupwnage
07/01/20 11:01:59 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
*yawn* you can support BLM and hate for what China is doing to Uighur and Hong Kong.

your options in life arent just Lebron James or HK protestor

Also fuck Lebron for licking China's boots.

Fuck the NBA.

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CruelBuffalo
07/01/20 11:02:06 PM
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lurk posted...
But Im Asian.

its more like, I am angsty at all the racism people in my family have faced in last few months even though we arent Chines
Child you arent even Chinese but doing all this weird whataboutism to deflect?

Im asian too. Not gonna gonna defend the hella corrupt Chinese government.

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lurk
07/01/20 11:03:37 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
Child you arent even Chinese but doing all this weird whataboutism to deflect?

Im asian too. Not gonna gonna defend the hella corrupt Chinese government.
The ccp is probably the modern equivalent of the third reich,

what deflection?
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CruelBuffalo
07/01/20 11:05:03 PM
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lurk posted...
The ccp is probably the modern equivalent of the third reich,

what deflection?

i only read the first half of the topic then the posts near mine lol so if you fleshed out more my apologies
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